Rods for casting long range
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Stop4Petrol
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Enigma wrote:
@Enigma
Hi
I would like to know out of this bunch of 1600's you mentioned, which of them have the fastest taper and stiffer/st back's.
Do you or anyone also know what rod/blank Blue Marlin produced that was called "Black Marlin Trophy" from say 15 years ago?
I did mail BM but still no response from them.
Thx Guy's
@Enigma
Hi
I would like to know out of this bunch of 1600's you mentioned, which of them have the fastest taper and stiffer/st back's.
Do you or anyone also know what rod/blank Blue Marlin produced that was called "Black Marlin Trophy" from say 15 years ago?
I did mail BM but still no response from them.
Thx Guy's
Stop4Petrol
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Thx Enigma
I take it then the Oval DC has the softer tip? In your opinion which would be the better choice for casting mieliebombs ? (fast taper/stiffer or the DC/other) Any other rods you would recommend?
I take it then the Oval DC has the softer tip? In your opinion which would be the better choice for casting mieliebombs ? (fast taper/stiffer or the DC/other) Any other rods you would recommend?
Oval has a different taper, only soft in the last 45cm rest of the rod is fast and hard. I fish with the Oval DC's because I cast from a spring with a bol all the way to a 4oz with a small bol.
My other rods are G2 13' that I have shortedned the tip by 4.6cm to quicken the action and the base shortened the same. It makes the rod a 12'6"that is a lot quicker that the standard G2
I have also on the 2 I am currently using built in the KR Casting concept of fuji using 2 low riders as strippers followed by #8 K series which are SMALL and extremely light. This way I have way more guides on and really loving that rod.
Of the shelf the Raging Bull II is possibly one of the biggest casters but not to everyone's liking interms of fishing. Close on it's heels is the DC and once again not many's favourite rod for fishing but rather for casting
My other rods are G2 13' that I have shortedned the tip by 4.6cm to quicken the action and the base shortened the same. It makes the rod a 12'6"that is a lot quicker that the standard G2
I have also on the 2 I am currently using built in the KR Casting concept of fuji using 2 low riders as strippers followed by #8 K series which are SMALL and extremely light. This way I have way more guides on and really loving that rod.
Of the shelf the Raging Bull II is possibly one of the biggest casters but not to everyone's liking interms of fishing. Close on it's heels is the DC and once again not many's favourite rod for fishing but rather for casting
Stop4Petrol
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Thx for all the Info
I like the feel of the RB2 but casting and the ability to play a small to big fish with the same rod is also important to me. The DC Oval plays a fish like a machine, never had a hook pull even on a big grassie when he turns. I even took the 10.6ft to henties to fish it with lures and it handled the fish amazingly. I just love the casting ability and the feel of the Oval, casting to max and just to flip it overhead comes easily. Of the shelf the DC Oval is the machine of rods.
Arlu Vorster
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Hey guys does any one know why the stopped producing the sensation thunder blotz? I bought 2 13ft rods last in 2013 and I truely N-joy them!
multistrada
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HiEnigma, do have any feedback about the new shimano tribals
BushBabySafaris
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Hi Multistrada I would also like to know about the new Tribals. I have the old version and love but its is very soft (3.25) but cannot be beaten for fighting fish. myself and some club mates have been given a few to test this weekend so I am dying to see how they perform especially since my minister of finances have given the green light for me to by two of them. we will be testing the 13" 3.75 as well as the 12" 3.75 and 3.5 test curves. I will give feed back but would love to get Enigma comments on them as I am not the best caster as it is. Some of the guys I am going with are good casters and hopefully I will get some tips and see how these rods suit and improve my casting.
BushBabySafaris
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Hi Multistrada I would also like to know about the new Tribals. I have the old version and love but its is very soft (3.25) but cannot be beaten for fighting fish. myself and some club mates have been given a few to test this weekend so I am dying to see how they perform especially since my minister of finances have given the green light for me to by two of them. we will be testing the 13" 3.75 as well as the 12" 3.75 and 3.5 test curves. I will give feed back but would love to get Enigma comments on them as I am not the best caster as it is. Some of the guys I am going with are good casters and hopefully I will get some tips and see how these rods suit and improve my casting.
multistrada
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Awesome, thanks for your reply. Hope all goes well, would like to hear the feed back from you.
multistrada
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Hi guys, is it true that custom rods are old technology.
BushBabySafaris
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ok so this weekend we were lucky enough to test the new Shimano Tribals. Fantastic rods and loved them all. I personally found that the 13" 3.75 was a bit heavy/bulky but I am probably just not used to a 13" rod. 3.75 test curve.
While the waters we were fishing in the club comp were not the best for long distance casting we did manage to get some sideway casts to check what the rods could do. Almost everybody agreed that with just a few throws they could get better distances than they could with the rod they were currently using, and most agreed the best would be the 12' with a 3.5 test curve.
I currently fish with a tribal 12" with a 3.25 so I will be buying the 12" 3.75 rods which did give a slightly better distance over the 3.5 test curve. I just feel that I will get more use out of the 3.75 and if I want a softer rod that can play the fish better for the times you don't have to fish in another country then I will stick with my old rods.
I was very surprised that all 3 rods we tested had a good action on the tip for playing fish, and after testing the 3 I choose to fish our club comp with the 12' 3.75 and landed up loving it by the end of the comp , to the point that I took it home instead of giving it back to the our club mate who organised the loan. So now I am off to the shop to settle the account and pick up its mate.
I feel confident that I will be able to fish on a clip at 130m using a M1 and 5lb line in a very short time which for me is a major achievement.
So to sum it all up I would give the rods a 4.5 out of 5 rating with my only concern been that the new rods are thinker and slightly heavier that my old tribals, but with a much heavier test curve I think this should be expected.
While the waters we were fishing in the club comp were not the best for long distance casting we did manage to get some sideway casts to check what the rods could do. Almost everybody agreed that with just a few throws they could get better distances than they could with the rod they were currently using, and most agreed the best would be the 12' with a 3.5 test curve.
I currently fish with a tribal 12" with a 3.25 so I will be buying the 12" 3.75 rods which did give a slightly better distance over the 3.5 test curve. I just feel that I will get more use out of the 3.75 and if I want a softer rod that can play the fish better for the times you don't have to fish in another country then I will stick with my old rods.
I was very surprised that all 3 rods we tested had a good action on the tip for playing fish, and after testing the 3 I choose to fish our club comp with the 12' 3.75 and landed up loving it by the end of the comp , to the point that I took it home instead of giving it back to the our club mate who organised the loan. So now I am off to the shop to settle the account and pick up its mate.
I feel confident that I will be able to fish on a clip at 130m using a M1 and 5lb line in a very short time which for me is a major achievement.
So to sum it all up I would give the rods a 4.5 out of 5 rating with my only concern been that the new rods are thinker and slightly heavier that my old tribals, but with a much heavier test curve I think this should be expected.
BushBabySafaris
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ok so this weekend we were lucky enough to test the new Shimano Tribals. Fantastic rods and loved them all. I personally found that the 13" 3.75 was a bit heavy/bulky but I am probably just not used to a 13" rod. 3.75 test curve.
While the waters we were fishing in the club comp were not the best for long distance casting we did manage to get some sideway casts to check what the rods could do. Almost everybody agreed that with just a few throws they could get better distances than they could with the rod they were currently using, and most agreed the best would be the 12' with a 3.5 test curve.
I currently fish with a tribal 12" with a 3.25 so I will be buying the 12" 3.75 rods which did give a slightly better distance over the 3.5 test curve. I just feel that I will get more use out of the 3.75 and if I want a softer rod that can play the fish better for the times you don't have to fish in another country then I will stick with my old rods.
I was very surprised that all 3 rods we tested had a good action on the tip for playing fish, and after testing the 3 I choose to fish our club comp with the 12' 3.75 and landed up loving it by the end of the comp , to the point that I took it home instead of giving it back to the our club mate who organised the loan. So now I am off to the shop to settle the account and pick up its mate.
I feel confident that I will be able to fish on a clip at 130m using a M1 and 5lb line in a very short time which for me is a major achievement.
So to sum it all up I would give the rods a 4.5 out of 5 rating with my only concern been that the new rods are thinker and slightly heavier that my old tribals, but with a much heavier test curve I think this should be expected.
While the waters we were fishing in the club comp were not the best for long distance casting we did manage to get some sideway casts to check what the rods could do. Almost everybody agreed that with just a few throws they could get better distances than they could with the rod they were currently using, and most agreed the best would be the 12' with a 3.5 test curve.
I currently fish with a tribal 12" with a 3.25 so I will be buying the 12" 3.75 rods which did give a slightly better distance over the 3.5 test curve. I just feel that I will get more use out of the 3.75 and if I want a softer rod that can play the fish better for the times you don't have to fish in another country then I will stick with my old rods.
I was very surprised that all 3 rods we tested had a good action on the tip for playing fish, and after testing the 3 I choose to fish our club comp with the 12' 3.75 and landed up loving it by the end of the comp , to the point that I took it home instead of giving it back to the our club mate who organised the loan. So now I am off to the shop to settle the account and pick up its mate.
I feel confident that I will be able to fish on a clip at 130m using a M1 and 5lb line in a very short time which for me is a major achievement.
So to sum it all up I would give the rods a 4.5 out of 5 rating with my only concern been that the new rods are thinker and slightly heavier that my old tribals, but with a much heavier test curve I think this should be expected.
multistrada
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Hi, thanks for the feedback, sounds like an awesome rod.
multistrada wrote:
Depends what blanks they are built on.
In most cases they are anything but old tech. They take the awesome blanks used by a lot of manufacturers and make use of high end, high performance components to maximise rod performance.
Customised rods are also for example taking your off the shelf rod and fine tuning it for you and your style and or taking an off the shelf awesome blank and removing the fong kong components and replacing them with high performance original parts (sometimes for more money than the original rod) and getting a top rod delivered.
Depends what blanks they are built on.
In most cases they are anything but old tech. They take the awesome blanks used by a lot of manufacturers and make use of high end, high performance components to maximise rod performance.
Customised rods are also for example taking your off the shelf rod and fine tuning it for you and your style and or taking an off the shelf awesome blank and removing the fong kong components and replacing them with high performance original parts (sometimes for more money than the original rod) and getting a top rod delivered.
multistrada wrote:
Depends what blanks they are built on.
In most cases they are anything but old tech. They take the awesome blanks used by a lot of manufacturers and make use of high end, high performance components to maximise rod performance.
Customised rods are also for example taking your off the shelf rod and fine tuning it for you and your style and or taking an off the shelf awesome blank and removing the fong kong components and replacing them with high performance original parts (sometimes for more money than the original rod) and getting a top rod delivered.
Depends what blanks they are built on.
In most cases they are anything but old tech. They take the awesome blanks used by a lot of manufacturers and make use of high end, high performance components to maximise rod performance.
Customised rods are also for example taking your off the shelf rod and fine tuning it for you and your style and or taking an off the shelf awesome blank and removing the fong kong components and replacing them with high performance original parts (sometimes for more money than the original rod) and getting a top rod delivered.