Thanks to all the guys posting info regarding kite

[spirits]

HI [/i]Def-e-nition great posts, I grew up in Hartenbos, started in Hartenbos skool en fineshed in Punt Skool in 2001. Those days shark fishing was amazing. I usually come down every December still have the house I grewup in and all my friend live their. We should hookup once for shark fishing, would love to go with you Whaler and Tuna the experts if I can say.

 

Cheers  [/i]

 

[Abaddon]

Eh Def.. What a lekka thread guy! ::respekt:

That popped spool looks only too familiar! Seen it twice before and it is not lekka man!! You lose all that line too or what? Makes a crap sound when it finally gives inn ne..

Gunna make a huge effort to get myself set up asap! Gunna give the long line effort a show as well as the clip and drop method. Has to be some interested parties swimming off Brighton and Bluewater Bay.

Keep representing mate! Doing a superb job!

 

[Arno Nel]

This looks like fun but hard work.

Abaddon33. Will be keen to join you on a trip to BWB when you attempt this. Just imagine the monster you wil pick up at BWB not even to speak of those Sharp Nose Bronzies that was their in the summer.

 

[Psy]

Arno...you  better believe its hard work...i found that out gou kyk...you cant fish that kite and all.....(take a left, .....right!!) .... alone...unless you spend the heeleste day at it with a good solid pole or rod stand in the ground to hold the kite in position....or you reel the kite in everytime!

One needs a partner to manage the kite. Best ...............being you have a solid pole or securing point on the beech to secure your kite "and all" while you are visvanging or retrieving your lure!

Alternatively I can see a scenario developing.... and I want to try it....to have a "join" in the line "and all" ...so I can remove the line from the kite rod....and secure it to a rock or a secure point on the beech. That way the kite stays in the air...and I can manage to hold and play/retrieve with my rod and/or throw a bait in the water close by, with another rod while the time goes by.

 

Ja nee....:fishn:kaykak

 

[Def-e-nition]

33 , you will need all the help you can get , in this regard. Once you've tried it though, the temptation to put out a large bait , further than you can cast it, will supercede any desire you've had before. Trust me. Between sliding and this, man, if the wind is blowing in half the right direction , i'm game. It's a bit finnicky at first, but once you get the hang of it, you'll be surprised with the results. . . . . . . Arno, kite and mr k make jokes about the need for a good friend to help launch the kite. Trust me- they are speaking from Experience . You will need someone to help with the retrieve. Otherwise ,buy another tyrnos on special, as it's about all i can think of that will reel in the damn biaatch , from 12000ft . . . . . . . . which is why the spool on the penn popped.but once that bait goes out there, and the line is down to close to the braid - sit tight . Hold onto your panties, hou my brandewyn vas en watch hierdie move! Now . If you boys'll excuse me, i've got poor natalie portman on Pause that i'd like to finish off. . Lol !

 

[Abaddon]

Well Stu.. then I suggest we take Enigma up on his outing to St Francis and get this thing done PROPER !!

Otherwise we need to make a plan to get together for a serious session some time soon! The outing itself will be such a jol!

Gunna klap it - HARD!

 

[Arno Nel]

I would like to join you on that trip to see what it is all about and to lend a hand and give some assistance.

 

[KLIPVIS]

Nice sharpenose I mean raggie there.

 

[BigG]

I'm as keen as ever to see how this is all done, let me know when you guys go again, and i'll see if i'm that side of the world

 

[kitefisher]

Def ,Psy, Whaler,and all else involved. Huge respect to you guys,thats what its all about, another weapon in your arsenal of 'fishing-tricks'.Those off-shores that you have there,cleaning and flattening the sea,may now just become one of your better conditions to fish in.(sure beats holding pole ,or sitting on the veranda).

You mentioned how important it is to be a "team' when doing this discipline,and quite rightly so,with FK being 25yrs junior,we make a formidable team,lol,guess who holds the kite-rod,and who jogs down the beach with the kite to launch.

It is great to see results ,and like you rightly mention,once you have a system going,it becomes plain sailing.

p.s Sorry about the spool that popped,like you said, the kite unfortunately ,unlike a fish, does not get tired at the end of your line. 

 

[Def-e-nition]

kite, i'm at a loss as to how we plan to retrieve said kite after it sets out on it's 440m long jol. The penn has a low ratio, but frankly ma'am ,the kite don't give a damn . Pulls as hard as S%!*# , and even on a lowly 3:1 ratio, we huffed and puffed on wednesday . Saturday the wind was a little too stiff, and from the word go i could tell the conditions were not right. . . . . The penn ,with ANOTHER spool, suffered immensely, and after poo-pooing the scarborough idea, now think it might not be so bad an option. . . Psy with his enormous one ,after following my advice, will not be left feeling wanting ,or dejected that his spool on the nice Dc just popped. . . . Even darius's eyebrows lifted when he realized the enormous strain going down through the line on to his spool- definitely not good for Any gears. Brass, steel,unobtanium , or otherwise. Damn thing pulls like there's no tomorrow. Only time we felt a small reprieve was when the bait had to come in again for some reason. That added weight seemed to turn the tide a bit on the kite. But only a bit. . . Yes kite, the water with the off-shore now blows flat , and with no serious chop in-shore, i feel depth will be the next abode of the subs of the deep. . . It was certainly it's downfall on wednesday, when nothing and i mean Nothing was taking the shallow baits. It's no small wonder ,then, why other members with boats have been getting all the bigger ,more, pulls. I'm not only keen to use this for bronzi's , i'm also ,as they do, keen to find the magic carpets, and the duckbills . I will gladly settle for a 70kg duckbill ,if i have enough time on my hands to land it! The 40kg one henry helped me hook ,had me over the klippe and all Over the place. Crikey ,what a work out. .

 

[kitefisher]

Def

Very few things beats a big KP when it comes to spool circumference,I know the ratio is slow but trust me a 10inch hauls very close to a meter of line per turn with relative ease.If you want to ensure that the new generation KP's spool is protected even more,then I'd suggest going the Dacron or Dyneema way,as added measure one can wrap the base of the KP's spool,once or twice ,with that old plaster that the rugby-players used 15-20 years ago.(white-stuff,that brings tears to your eyes when you have to take it off) ,before the snazzy kinetic plasters that the Boks use now.(which seems to help only for 40 minutes,no score in the second half against Italy,lol)

Stretch in the line, when the breeze is at full tilt, is the main enemy of spools.Over time you may want to look at a smaller kite ,for the days when the breeze is fresh.But like you have done so far ,eventually you are going to have a workable system,perfect for your conditions.

Well done .Nice reading your progress.

 

[Def-e-nition]

yes. trimming the baits so they start being Pulled easier Into the water .

makes More sense than trying to Drag a bus size bait Out , and it keeps dropping short . One can nly Put the troller clip on so hard , No More , and then it becomes Impractical .

 

The Wind is , i feel , perhaps a Little too stiff , and that Tends to make the bugger torra torra  .

Then you've got your hands full .......

i have a double Line kite too , but that boytjie is a MAJOR HANDFUL . And i think One is Limited , in the end , as to How Long One can actually Make the Lines , before One Loses all directional control Over them , yes ?. Now , that'd be priceless .......

 A stiff Delta , two lines out , and the thing decides it's goin down .......................!!

Psy will Be back soon , then i can have My fishing buddy Get His workout .

 

[Arno Nel]

What size baits are you okes puting out there with the kites ?

 

 

[Def-e-nition]

Arno Nel wrote:

What size baits are you okes puting out there with the kites ?

 

Anything you can slide , I'll drag out . Difference being : time - Quicker , and Definite. Where it Drops , it's on athrow , so if something takes it your chances of it going through the Leader are slim ..

And obviously then , ahh, would be distance . Try throwing and then Sliding out 350 m ..........

If wind Speed is up , and i Want to put out a kilo bait . off We go . Less wind , half kilo bait . until iut becomes Impractical to use kite , then everyone whips out their straightest Long Faces , plants their Feet , and ....dare i Say it .....- Casts .  

Once you Get spoilt by having your bait dropped , casting becomes like something compared to Getting out of Bed .on a winter's morning . Not Lekka ! .

It's a Little More Finnicky thought than you'd imagine , and as i said Previous - get a Tyrnos On special , as you'll need a Marlin reel that can handle 15+ Kilo's of Pressure on the wind-up , continuously . Make No Mistake , it has Nothing to do with winding on the braid so bad the spool pops .It's got More to do with the amount of pure STRAIN you Place on the gears , when you try with your Best attempt , to Reel in said kite , from 35 000ft . Once the bait Releases , it shoots up into the strong gusty area , and Pulls Like HELL .

If the wind is just keeping it up there , it still presents a Mission for Even something like a Dc, Buck ....6.4:1 don't work here bru . Here you Need brute force . Bring that sucker DOWN ....... Problem is once you get the hang of it , you start wanting to Let your Bait Out further , and further , and further , and ..- you Get the picture . Obviously sanity must Prevail , and I'd say anything between 300- 650M(crikey) is sufficient , but seeing your Moerse Ass go out beyond the breakers , over the Shorebreak , through the surf , all on top of the Water until you tighten up and it gains some altittude until it drops off .

eish.  The chokka baits Make like a slow-motion Drop , Like when they slow down a stallone punch  ! i Use a 6oz sinker , or 7 Oz. Nothing More , really .

But On the whole < One's bait Is determined in size , to wind , and the type of kite . The one i use , this Delta-winged  treasure of torture , will probably in a stronger gust , lift around 800Gr . a full size Mack mack . up , up , and away .....

The wind simply Needs to be Strong enough to Keep the kite Moving backwards , and then you can prettyMuch Pull anything out Past Through the Backline . a Small Live shark , for instance, like a hammer , can be goaded out into the deep blue on a pulley rig , until father time comes Knocking to shorten it's life .

 

 

[BigG]

@Definition.. Your informative reports and valuable information makes a person want to go out and buy a Kite fishing outfit

 

[Def-e-nition]

BigG wrote:

@Definition.. Your informative reports and valuable information makes a person want to go out and buy a Kite fishing outfit

Thanks Big G . I Don't Like So Much the attention , as i do sharing . Everything except women , i will share . On Sealine , that seems to work ...

 

[BigG]

LOL...

 

[Abaddon]

Well chaps.. this is my thought so far with the gear I have..

Gunna put my kite on either my Tyrnos30 filled with dacron or a Penn Senator 9/0. That will go onto a short "standup" rod in the 80lb class. Then I will be pulling the fish on my TICA30 paired with an Enigma built /7 or /8..

Would you say that I should get a "standup" stick for the pulling of fish too or are the long sticks more advantageous?

 

[Def-e-nition]

craig, if the line allows it - well - d'you remember viat pic of viat 791kg BUS that came out at Mazeppa ? Stand up,boet . You don't need to cast - so why bother ? Hmm? It'll help you on the beach, but off the bricks i reckon you could just as well use the sawn-off shot-gun. . Must say though, never hooked something that large on a boat rod not since my first Raggie in 85 in the buffalo river . . . enigma would be of more help dishing out viat sorta advice. One thing i will tell you ,is like so :the Tyrnos is more than up to the job of pulling in the "material and carbon poles. " i forgot you had the tica. You frikkin Sadist . . . . . ! Frankly you're well -stocked ,in my books, to pretty much haul a hang-glider from the sky,or a bloody cessna . . . . . Lol ! ! ! Honest. Wish had something even HALF as strong as the bloody Tyrnos. . . . Put me in your will ,in the unfortunate event of a magic carpet pulling you into the ocean ,or something. . . . . . . . . Interesting question concerning the boat rods issue , never thought of it really . But with a pic of a bUS BEING landed on one- whom i to argue. ? ? . . .