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Rods for casting long range
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James Craven
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Hi guys,
What's the difference between the 12 ft Matrix and 12ft Terminator Mach 3 ?
What's the difference between the 12 ft Matrix and 12ft Terminator Mach 3 ?
Some would like to tell you there is a difference but if you strip of the grip of both, like I have with many of the rods I have refurbished you will find both have the Blue Marlin T53 code for a 365/2+1
The new Matrix rods are fitted with Low Rider casting concept guides (unless otherwise ordered) and the Terminator is fitted with Std Guides so the Matrix will always perform best in casting.
Both are excellent FISHING rods and cast a good distance but lack backbone for general Extreme range casting. For that there are better options.
Once again a word of caution on this topic. General fishing and Extreme Range casting to get the fish that no-one else is getting are 2 different things altogether.
Both these rods are possibly the best option currently in terms of light rigs at fair distance but are becomming increasingly expensive and are only available in 1 piece versions.
The 2 piece options that both offer are based on a G2 12' which I personally don't like as with the heavy tip you can get good distance but because of the tip action being so extremely fast it casts a mile but accuracy for the average angler is a huge problem and it is totally unforgiving with playing a fish. The G2 13' outcasts it considerably and has (due to the additional 1') a lot less speed in the tip so is more forgiving in terms of accuracy and playing fish.
The new Matrix rods are fitted with Low Rider casting concept guides (unless otherwise ordered) and the Terminator is fitted with Std Guides so the Matrix will always perform best in casting.
Both are excellent FISHING rods and cast a good distance but lack backbone for general Extreme range casting. For that there are better options.
Once again a word of caution on this topic. General fishing and Extreme Range casting to get the fish that no-one else is getting are 2 different things altogether.
Both these rods are possibly the best option currently in terms of light rigs at fair distance but are becomming increasingly expensive and are only available in 1 piece versions.
The 2 piece options that both offer are based on a G2 12' which I personally don't like as with the heavy tip you can get good distance but because of the tip action being so extremely fast it casts a mile but accuracy for the average angler is a huge problem and it is totally unforgiving with playing a fish. The G2 13' outcasts it considerably and has (due to the additional 1') a lot less speed in the tip so is more forgiving in terms of accuracy and playing fish.
James Craven
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Thanks for the info enigma. Can I contact you for low rider guides? Where are you based ?
so i read a few posts back about the conversation about graphite and carbon fiber which also confused me.
but my confusion came from visiting westerns:
where the salesmen told me about purchasing the westerns rod brand which is better because its made from carbon fiber and not the old graphite technology.
and that the test curve will last longer on the carbon fiber rods versus graphite.
but my confusion came from visiting westerns:
where the salesmen told me about purchasing the westerns rod brand which is better because its made from carbon fiber and not the old graphite technology.
and that the test curve will last longer on the carbon fiber rods versus graphite.
Hi Naruto
With regards to what rod to buy is tricky but simply. The best fisherman won't get his satifaction cast, that's why they invented bait boats. Get the picture?
I suggest a rod to your hand strenght and a reel that u comfortable with and measure your weight before casting if the weight is heavy enough to make your reel run when casting. Most important is the weight of your line...
With regards to what rod to buy is tricky but simply. The best fisherman won't get his satifaction cast, that's why they invented bait boats. Get the picture?
I suggest a rod to your hand strenght and a reel that u comfortable with and measure your weight before casting if the weight is heavy enough to make your reel run when casting. Most important is the weight of your line...
James Craven
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fastlines wrote:
Read the whole thread from page one.
You're clearly missing the conversation.
My 2cents.
Hi Naruto
With regards to what rod to buy is tricky but simply. The best fisherman won't get his satifaction cast, that's why they invented bait boats. Get the picture?
I suggest a rod to your hand strenght and a reel that u comfortable with and measure your weight before casting if the weight is heavy enough to make your reel run when casting. Most important is the weight of your line...
Read the whole thread from page one.
You're clearly missing the conversation.
My 2cents.
Naruto wrote:
Naruto,
In my view the G2 is by far a better rod. The DC and Rocket rods from sensation are really stiff and don't have the same tip action as the G2. So what do you want to use the rod for?
The G2 will give you the ability to get the distance, but also allow you to get small fish without getting hook-pulls. I not so sure that the DC or rocket is capable of that.
How would a custom Purglas (say 400/1) compare to the G2 and DC and even the 13' Rocket?
Naruto,
In my view the G2 is by far a better rod. The DC and Rocket rods from sensation are really stiff and don't have the same tip action as the G2. So what do you want to use the rod for?
The G2 will give you the ability to get the distance, but also allow you to get small fish without getting hook-pulls. I not so sure that the DC or rocket is capable of that.
fastlines wrote:
Most of the time fish are caught between 30m to 120m. These distances are easily achieved by most competive anglers - Boats are not an option, they are not allowed at competitive comps.
Hi Naruto
With regards to what rod to buy is tricky but simply. The best fisherman won't get his satifaction cast, that's why they invented bait boats. Get the picture?
I suggest a rod to your hand strenght and a reel that u comfortable with and measure your weight before casting if the weight is heavy enough to make your reel run when casting. Most important is the weight of your line...
Most of the time fish are caught between 30m to 120m. These distances are easily achieved by most competive anglers - Boats are not an option, they are not allowed at competitive comps.
Went test casting the Whole range of rods we are unveiling at the tackle trade show this weekend.
14' 6-8oz with 200lbs Braid leader 50lbs braid and 6oz (158gr ) sinker we got 182m
10'6 Oval DC, average cast with P4 was 152m
12' Oval DC We got it up to 192m (myself and Thinus0 then I hit a 200+ and had Bragging rights till Thinus hit a 215m
Then we took the multiplier rods and Trophy hit 163m with a 6oz on the 5-7oz and we then had 3 guys go 170m and then Thinus hit 181m
Then the 300gr sinker on the 7-9oz 14' and we all were doing 150-155 average with a 161m somewhere inbetween.
But I still love my G2 13' rods, the Oval DC's however have a lekker tip action for added sensitivity when playing a fish
14' 6-8oz with 200lbs Braid leader 50lbs braid and 6oz (158gr ) sinker we got 182m
10'6 Oval DC, average cast with P4 was 152m
12' Oval DC We got it up to 192m (myself and Thinus0 then I hit a 200+ and had Bragging rights till Thinus hit a 215m
Then we took the multiplier rods and Trophy hit 163m with a 6oz on the 5-7oz and we then had 3 guys go 170m and then Thinus hit 181m
Then the 300gr sinker on the 7-9oz 14' and we all were doing 150-155 average with a 161m somewhere inbetween.
But I still love my G2 13' rods, the Oval DC's however have a lekker tip action for added sensitivity when playing a fish
Dirk,
Jy kan nie ver gooi en kol gooi nie - sodra jy verby 120m gaan is daar geen manier wat jy akkuraat op 'n kol kan hengel soos op bv 80m nie. Selfs nie die beste ouens kan dit doen nie. Kolgooi praat ons van die grootte van die ou swart asblik deksels.
As jy 'n stok soek wat jy ver kan hengel, maar ook akkuraat wil hengel om nadere afstande dan sal ek voorstel jy kry 'n stok soos 'n Shimano Beastmaster 12ft 3.25 lb of die 13ft G'2 van Craig Neil. Die Black Mamaba van WAFT 13ft stokke gooi 'n M0 ook baie lekker. Min 13ft stokke bied die opsie om M0 te kan gooi.
My persoonlik voorstel vir "best of both worlds" G2's of die Shimano Beastmasters 3.25lb
Jy kan nie ver gooi en kol gooi nie - sodra jy verby 120m gaan is daar geen manier wat jy akkuraat op 'n kol kan hengel soos op bv 80m nie. Selfs nie die beste ouens kan dit doen nie. Kolgooi praat ons van die grootte van die ou swart asblik deksels.
As jy 'n stok soek wat jy ver kan hengel, maar ook akkuraat wil hengel om nadere afstande dan sal ek voorstel jy kry 'n stok soos 'n Shimano Beastmaster 12ft 3.25 lb of die 13ft G'2 van Craig Neil. Die Black Mamaba van WAFT 13ft stokke gooi 'n M0 ook baie lekker. Min 13ft stokke bied die opsie om M0 te kan gooi.
My persoonlik voorstel vir "best of both worlds" G2's of die Shimano Beastmasters 3.25lb