Some time ago I purchased a pack of circle hooks,

t-time

Senior Member
@ trophy
sorry to go off the point bru but when u fish at Blue water bay do you go on the beach or just on the inside of the logoon thingy for those zambies?
thanks
 

Trophy

Sealiner
[color=#006600]Koeks[/color] wrote:
let me no if you are ever in town, i could show you some spots if you like?

Hi Koeks,

I'm in EL right now posting from the Reef Hotel in Nahoon. Got the sticks here, fished a bit this moring until the F#*cking wind blew me into the Sea at kids beach. Was chasing my illusive Cracker........it's becomming an obsession to catcha good one!

Was thinking that the wind would settle, but no chance. Will give you a shout when up here again, will be soon. 

Thanks mate! 
 

Trophy

Sealiner
[color=#006600]t-time[/color] wrote:
@ trophy
sorry to go off the point bru but when u fish at Blue water bay do you go on the beach or just on the inside of the logoon thingy for those zambies?
thanks

t-time....If you are from PE get back here, the fishing is much better!

Blue Water beach has developed big time, I go passed the parking area, through all the houses till you reach the end of the development. There is a gravel road which links onto the pavillian bathing areas for the Motherwell folks. I fish anywhere from this area all the way back to the parking area.

I have not fished the river mouth area for sharks, but have caught good fish here, Steenie and Kob, good numbers not good sizes though.
 

t-time

Senior Member
thanks bud.... i never lived there but i stay at a friends house in blue water bay quite a lot. if i knew bout the zambies i would never have come home. next time im there ill give it a go
 

Trophy

Sealiner
Report Back on Circle Hooks,

Went and fished off the old pier at Swartkops today to try out the new circle hook traces.

I caught a small smooth hound on a throw bait (circle hook) and swan him out, again on a circle hook swim rig.

The bait swam around for over two hour before I got a huge take. I could feel that it was not a shark, but this was BIG.

Fishing off the pier I had to work the fish back to the beach to land him. I got one look at the biggst spear nose I have ever seen. The bugger took me under the pier and snapped me up.

Has anyone ever caught a skate / ray using live smooth hound (4-5KG)?

Circle hooks worked a gem and will try them again.

Come on summer!
 

willo

Sealiner
never heard of something like that before that must have been a monster.....
caught my biggest skate on alive +-.5kg shad bait and was impressed with that,but on a smooth hound thats good going looking forward to seeing some big summer pics!!!!!
 

Trophy

Sealiner
Hi Willow, I have not done much live bait simming myself, but have never heard of this before? Maybe some of the guys could add comment.

One of the guys I was fishing with recons that the shark may have been dead, but it was still swimming welll. I actually saw the increase in activity before the bait was taken.

The Spear nose has a large mouth and a good set of teeth so who knows?
 
Howsit trophy, i have had a similar experience. was at struisbaai, and i pulled out a big diamond ray, it had had my bait (head and stomach section of a bonnie), and a smoothhound of around 5-7kgs in its mouth, smoothhound was barely alive when we pulled it out.
 

habib

Sealiner
do u get spearnose skates in kzn waters?....y i ask....had a take on a live milkshark once and the fight was as if it was a skate......slowly stripping the reel....not hard and fast like a shark would. bait pulled out with teeth marks.
 

Trophy

Sealiner
[color=#006600]habib[/color] wrote:
do u get spearnose skates in kzn waters

I think they go under many names thorn this and thorn that......Have serious spines all along body and tail.

Got this one a few weeks back. Today's catch was his daddy. Seriously strong fighters.
 

Attachments

  • New Dave Alcock and Daiwa Combo.JPG
    New Dave Alcock and Daiwa Combo.JPG
    46.6 KB · Views: 311

Trophy

Sealiner
Habib, not sure how far they travel up the coast, but I have caught them in East London too.

In the Summer months PE is full of Diamonds and in Winter the Spear Nose seem to be about.
 

JL

Senior Member
Stupid question, but I'm still confused. Do you only use 1 circle hook on a slide trace, and leave the 2nd hook out completely? Furthermore, if you use a swim trace do you use 2 circle hooks (say 2 +- 30cm traces from a power swivel)?
 

Trophy

Sealiner
[color=#006600]JL[/color] wrote:
if you use a swim trace do you use 2 circle hooks (say 2 +- 30cm traces from a power swivel)?

I have run out of Circle hooks, but this is the rig I use to swim skates and rays. I copied this rig compliments of Tony Dell.

The lengths to each hook from ring is +- 60cm, then I use about 2m of steel to a swivel where the leader is tied on.

Place a hook into each wing, run the rig dwn the back of the ray. Make a small hole near the base of the tail, mind the barb, and use a small zip tie to secure the ring to the body.

A shark will alway chomp a ray from either wing so you are sure a hook up. Let the shark do his business and only pick up the rod once you are getting a long and solid run.

Happy hunting!
 

Attachments

  • Skate & Ray Swim Trace 001.jpg
    Skate & Ray Swim Trace 001.jpg
    16.6 KB · Views: 366

Trophy

Sealiner
[color=#006600]JL[/color] wrote:
 if you use a swim trace do you use 2 circle hooks (say 2 +- 30cm traces from a power swivel)?

I have run out of Circle hooks, bt this is the trace I use to swim sharks or fish.

The hook lengths are 35 & 15cm from the steel knot, I rum 2m of steel to a swivel where the leader is joined.

Cut two flaps of skin on the back of the shark, first just behing the dorsal fin and the second near the base of the tail. Place your hooks into the skin flaps and run your rig down the sharks back. Use a zip tie to secure your steel to the tail fin.

With both traces the live bait swims freely and allows the fish to stay alive longer and battle currents. While the bait is swimming out I free spool with the ratchet on. Never leave your rod alone!!

Again, let the shark do his thing and don't rush. Wait for a good long run before setting the hooks.

Come on Summer!
 

Attachments

  • Shark & Fish Swim Trace 001.jpg
    Shark & Fish Swim Trace 001.jpg
    13.6 KB · Views: 368
Trophy nice illustrations, very helpful. i have only used a big live bait once, a smoothy of about 7-8 kilos +, used a normal slide trace, put one hook on the nose between eyes and the other just in front of the dorsal fin. got picked up big time, dunno what it was, nearly ran me clean (+/- 800m) broke my reel, the anti reverse and stopper gave in under the pressure, had to hold my handle as tight as i could to stop it from going backwards. after an hour and half, lost it. wound all the line in to find my 1mm leader had been worm through from rubbing against the sharks body. felt like someone had taken sand paper and rubbed it against my line. i was upset to loose the fish, but it was awesome, to feel the power of the fish at the other end!!
 

Johan S

Senior Member
JB, I've heard from a couple of guys with the misfortune of having failure of the anti reverse and stopper. What reel was this, if you don't mind me asking.
 
Top