So with a lot of people on this forum I would like

So would you ever fish for a club?

  • Yes I will...

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  • Yes I had a good experience with them...

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  • No...

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  • No I had a bad experience with them...

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Joker

Senior Member
Craig Van der Poll wrote:
Joker wrote:
I voted YES

I joined a club this year/season.

I want to experience what all this fuss is about. One cannot sit on the outside and judge what's happening inside..

Besides, who knows... It might just be an awesome experience.

Which club did you join Joker?

Hey Craig

Joined Four Oceans.
 

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Joker

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Simen wrote:
Being in any club is much like the way you lead your life.

If all small things in life bother you, small things in the club (politics ) will also bother you.

Anything (good or bad) in life only effects you if you get involved with it.

Enough of that now.



I have read the previous posts on this and there are 2 factors that seem to be mentioned on a couple of posts.

One is the attitude and the other is casting, standing close to each other, burning off and all that goes with that.

Now being a competitive angler should put you in a cut above the rest, not in knowledge and ability but in attitude.

Your attitude should now be better because you now should know better.

I can only speak of tournaments I have fished in and let me tell you something, dont fish in any tournament if you are finicky about, crossed lines, a guy to close to you etc, etc.

A tournament caster, rubs shoulders with the next guy and casts, even if it is over him, they simply switch places, why because they understand the nature of angling in a confined space, the next skew cast could be his, and the other guy does the same for him.



what is the difference with social angler standing next to a league angler, NOTHING. You the league angler should just inform the guy with "lets swop places"

If you have never crossed lines, switched places, helped a fellow angler landing a fish, you have never fished competitively, you have only participated on league level.

 


On the pic added, thats the size of your "area", standing chest deep in the water and casting, if you never done a skew cast with conditions like that ??????? There simply is no room to move further apart. But if thats where the fish are biting, thats where you want to be.



As you see one guy has a fish on, he has right of way, if he pics up one of the other guys lines, that guy simply lets out line until this angler has landed his fish, next time it may be the other way round.

Now that competitive fishing, not only taking part in a league.

((goodp_

Oom Simen
 
Joker wrote:
Craig Van der Poll wrote:
Joker wrote:
I voted YES

I joined a club this year/season.

I want to experience what all this fuss is about. One cannot sit on the outside and judge what's happening inside..

Besides, who knows... It might just be an awesome experience.

Which club did you join Joker?

Hey Craig

Joined Four Oceans.

Great bunch of guys, you'll enjoy it there! Welcome to the league, it's great fun!
 

Koper

Senior Member
Guys, my 2 cents.

Club fishing is what you make of it.  Last year I helped a local club (of which I wasn't a member) with a fund raiser for a Junior Development Program, simply because helping kids is something close to my heart.

Soon after I was asked to join the club, simply because of my attitude in helping out of free will.  This year I was chosen to be on the club management committee.

Why???

Simply because I choose to get involved and try to make things better, and not to sit on the side and criticize.

This must be your attitude, from newbe up to the chairman.

It's up to you what choice you make - live with it, enjoy it and respect each other.
 

Simen

Sealiner
Koper wrote:
Guys, my 2 cents.

Club fishing is what you make of it.  Last year I helped a local club (of which I wasn't a member) with a fund raiser for a Junior Development Program, simply because helping kids is something close to my heart.

Soon after I was asked to join the club, simply because of my attitude in helping out of free will.  This year I was chosen to be on the club management committee.

Why???

Simply because I choose to get involved and try to make things better, and not to sit on the side and criticize.

This must be your attitude, from newbe up to the chairman.

It's up to you what choice you make - live with it, enjoy it and respect each other.
 

::tclaph::tclaph::tclaph::respekt:
 
 
I am gobsmacked at the vote, I honestly thought it was going to be the usual landslide but am pleasantly surprised!

Everybody needs to remember one thing, ALL club anglers are first and fore mostly recreational anglers. We all share the same passion just that some people, myself included, yearn for the adrenalin rush that comes with a competitive environment.
 

Serra Moz

Sealiner
Simen wrote:
Being in any club is much like the way you lead your life.

If all small things in life bother you, small things in the club (politics ) will also bother you.

Anything (good or bad) in life only effects you if you get involved with it.

Enough of that now.



I have read the previous posts on this and there are 2 factors that seem to be mentioned on a couple of posts.

One is the attitude and the other is casting, standing close to each other, burning off and all that goes with that.

Now being a competitive angler should put you in a cut above the rest, not in knowledge and ability but in attitude.

Your attitude should now be better because you now should know better.

I can only speak of tournaments I have fished in and let me tell you something, dont fish in any tournament if you are finicky about, crossed lines, a guy to close to you etc, etc.

A tournament caster, rubs shoulders with the next guy and casts, even if it is over him, they simply switch places, why because they understand the nature of angling in a confined space, the next skew cast could be his, and the other guy does the same for him.



what is the difference with social angler standing next to a league angler, NOTHING. You the league angler should just inform the guy with "lets swop places"

If you have never crossed lines, switched places, helped a fellow angler landing a fish, you have never fished competitively, you have only participated on league level.

 


On the pic added, thats the size of your "area", standing chest deep in the water and casting, if you never done a skew cast with conditions like that ??????? There simply is no room to move further apart. But if thats where the fish are biting, thats where you want to be.



As you see one guy has a fish on, he has right of way, if he pics up one of the other guys lines, that guy simply lets out line until this angler has landed his fish, next time it may be the other way round.

Now that competitive fishing, not only taking part in a league.

Ditto, well said, well explained Simen, perhaps it will be a good notion for the bigger/well known clubs to start with a beginner/green horn division within their club, to teach them (besides)fishing the traits/qualities/tips/repect and all the rest? As I do not belong to a ZA angling club, I am sure it's being done. Like I said, I do prefer to involve my family with these types of adventures, even if it just means my youngsters are learning to sail dinghies. At Clube Maritimo in Maputo they got a Sailing instructor from Portugal and offer swimming lesson as well.
 

Serra Moz

Sealiner
Simen wrote:
Agreed, I also dont think the majority of clubs spend enough time on developement.
Correct, Simen but I think it also depends on the financial status of the club, sponsors? The 3 clubs in Maputo, has got the means, members, investors, donations ect - so yes I think that's why they can afford to run from a chess club to latin dancing...lol... Also non anglers are also allowed to join, so there's always some sort of income. The clubs also generate their own funds be staging events/shows ect. Fortunately/Unfortuately it attracts only the wealthy locals/expats generally. Maritimo has a zero tolerance policy regarding misbehaviour. There's always security, small private beach, clean toilets & showers, radio watch, 24 hour launching facility with sailors/deck hands to assist you, in the day they recover your boat with a tractor, so you don't have to use your vehicle. I know the topic is for R & S, however it's still a fishing club. I would like to introduce R & S at this club at a later stage. I guess the biggest problem is that the "proper" land based angling places are quite far from Maputo city.
 

kraken

Senior Member
As much as I like to poke fun at club anglers and their funny mannerisms, my time spent as a club angler was great.

I made good friends, learned a lot and generally had some really fun times.

Wearing a noddy badge was secondary to the camaraderie and in fact, when I first started club angling, most clubs did'nt have fancy splash jackets or numbers on their backs.

Politics and personalities will always be an issue. I dealt with it by simply laughing it off and accepting the fact that we all can be assholes at some or other time.

I withdrew from club angling due primarily to simply not being able to justify spending money I could not afford on something which was not that high on my list of angling priorities.

I'm now able to devote more time to my first and original passion which is fishing at sea from a boat.
Being able to make money out of that by having access to a commercial fishery is even better.

However, there is nothing wrong at all with club angling. Although I must say, recent reports of club anglers being caught doing foul things to each other is quite disturbing.
But, each to their own and as long as you wear protection, its all good.

So ja, joining a club is not a bad thing at all.
 

Jake1

Senior Member
There is enough competition in life allready! I just want to fish and winning someone in fishing is absolutely not what fishing is about for me. All I want to do is enjoy myself and yes, trying to better my own PBs. Thats all!
 

wp34

Sealiner
I fished for a club for 9 years. What I experienced in that club, put me off for life. If you're not part of the clique, forget it! I am not willing to "kruip gat" to prove that I'm "the man".
Example1: We all paid the same price for our bait(baitclub) The clique gets better bait than the outcasts!
Example2: I dont drink hard enough to impress the chairman, club captain and his cronies, therefore I'm an outcast!
Example3: Hoenders, that started fishing a year ago, but have thick wallets, are instantly in the clique! (GATKRUIP)
The chip on the shoulder of other guys just really got on my tits.
There is no "I" in TEAM! Saying that, it was always the same guys causing chaos(can use another word,but admin wont approve) when they are with their brannewyn filled buddies!
In short I voted NO!
 

Serra Moz

Sealiner
Some good input and pointers (some scary ones too) - Like I said Maritimo in Maps isn't a rock and surf club, but more boating. The guys are great, always willing to assist, share knowledge, tips ect.
 

Simen

Sealiner
wp34 wrote:
I fished for a club for 9 years. What I experienced in that club, put me off for life. If you're not part of the clique, forget it! I am not willing to "kruip gat" to prove that I'm "the man".
Example1: We all paid the same price for our bait(baitclub) The clique gets better bait than the outcasts!
Example2: I dont drink hard enough to impress the chairman, club captain and his cronies, therefore I'm an outcast!
Example3: Hoenders, that started fishing a year ago, but have thick wallets, are instantly in the clique! (GATKRUIP)
The chip on the shoulder of other guys just really got on my tits.
There is no "I" in TEAM! Saying that, it was always the same guys causing chaos(can use another word,but admin wont approve) when they are with their brannewyn filled buddies!
In short I voted NO!

I honestly think you should change your words to

I will never fish for THAT club again, maybe not all the clubs are the same.

I do agree, both ways, not all clubs are the same.
 

Stapies

Sealiner
I am glad some people gave their views... I have made a call this weekend and had a chat to a club. Not for R&S but for kayak fishing. This is something that is not very nice to do on your own in the sea... So I am going to see the people this week and decide about joining.

I feel it is different to R&S and have heard too many nasty things about R&S clubs. But then again bad news travels the fastest... And very often the good things are not mentioned...
 

Serra Moz

Sealiner
Stapies wrote:
I am glad some people gave their views... I have made a call this weekend and had a chat to a club. Not for R&S but for kayak fishing. This is something that is not very nice to do on your own in the sea... So I am going to see the people this week and decide about joining.

I feel it is different to R&S and have heard too many nasty things about R&S clubs. But then again bad news travels the fastest... And very often the good things are not mentioned...
Wise idea Stapies, that's one of the reasons I don't really do much Kaying in Moz, as I was on my own most.....certainly not scared, but way too many "what ifs"
 

Stapies

Sealiner
Serra Moz wrote:
Stapies wrote:
I am glad some people gave their views... I have made a call this weekend and had a chat to a club. Not for R&S but for kayak fishing. This is something that is not very nice to do on your own in the sea... So I am going to see the people this week and decide about joining.

I feel it is different to R&S and have heard too many nasty things about R&S clubs. But then again bad news travels the fastest... And very often the good things are not mentioned...
Wise idea Stapies, that's one of the reasons I don't really do much Kaying in Moz, as I was on my own most.....certainly not scared, but way too many "what ifs"

:::S:::S:::S Hey Serra,

Yeah I think it is wise to join. I am new CPT and never fished this water of a kayak. So I think firstly I can learn the how's and where's and then for safety purposes it is the best thing to do... Oh yeah, think I will be rowing my bait out from now on as well... MMMMMM now the sharks are get some bullying!!! ::S::S::S

How you been? Any good fishing your side lately?
 

Serra Moz

Sealiner
Stapies wrote:
Stapies wrote:
I am glad some people gave their views... I have made a call this weekend and had a chat to a club. Not for R&S but for kayak fishing. This is something that is not very nice to do on your own in the sea... So I am going to see the people this week and decide about joining.

I feel it is different to R&S and have heard too many nasty things about R&S clubs. But then again bad news travels the fastest... And very often the good things are not mentioned...
Wise idea Stapies, that's one of the reasons I don't really do much Kaying in Moz, as I was on my own most.....certainly not scared, but way too many "what ifs"
 
:::S:::S:::S Hey Serra,

Yeah I think it is wise to join. I am new CPT and never fished this water of a kayak. So I think firstly I can learn the how's and where's and then for safety purposes it is the best thing to do... Oh yeah, think I will be rowing my bait out from now on as well... MMMMMM now the sharks are get some bullying!!! ::S::S::S

How you been? Any good fishing your side lately?

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f8f8f8"Don't want to divert from thread, yeah all cool at work. Not good fishing at all when I was home, took the kids did a bridge near Matola (small mullets, chokka and and everything.... nothing. No boating, wind and more wind... been bad since July...seems like when I am at work it's ok weatherwise...

style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #f8f8f8"Which club you intend on joining? You will meet nice fishing buddies ect...Go for it!
 

Stapies

Sealiner
I am not sure of the name as I just given the contact details of the person in charge... It is in Gordons Bay and about 2km from my house. Very convenient...

No joining fee, they have a trailer with locks. You add your yak and lock it, they drive out to the nice spots on almost a daily basis and if you want to join, drive to where they are, your yak is already there, take your key, remove the yak from the trailer and join the lads in the water...

Seems like a good and nice practice. Waiting for the yellowtail to come in now... Also meet up weekly and plan where to go fish. SO looking forward it!!!
 
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