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blaasoppie#1

Senior Member
Howzit Bluflu,

I used to see those same Parrot fish at Isle St Marie in Madagascar on the outer reef at low tide. Could just never get near the buggers as they are so spooky and they were really big fish too.
 

fedu

Sealiner
While Snorkleing managed to get quite near to those Parrots..
 

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Fanie

Sealiner
Hi guys,

It's obvious you had an awesome trip and that it was too short to catch all the fish.

If possible, won't you pls comment on the sailing, the cat's motion, stability, berthing, galley and the important things no one ever mentions. 

Some was mentioned - the medical kit, kneeguards, heavier line :-D

What made life easier, what was missed.  Many okes are not aware that these cats are used to sail around the world in all kinds of weather.

It would also be nice to know if there was a preferred spot for mooring and the weather you may have considered, fairly strong wind was mentioned.
 

fedu

Sealiner
Fanie wrote:
Hi guys,

It's obvious you had an awesome trip and that it was too short to catch all the fish.

If possible, won't you pls comment on the sailing, the cat's motion, stability, berthing, galley and the important things no one ever mentions. 

Some was mentioned - the medical kit, kneeguards, heavier line :-D

What made life easier, what was missed.  Many okes are not aware that these cats are used to sail around the world in all kinds of weather.

It would also be nice to know if there was a preferred spot for mooring and the weather you may have considered, fairly strong wind was mentioned.
Fanie,
 
On this speeding world of ours the first few hours at around 8 Knot were a bit of a turn down, we quickly realized it would take ages to reach the destination (nothing we weren't waiting)
After the first day the sensation that vacations had arrived and that time has got a totally different meaning totally surrounded by sea your body get's used to the rocking motion and you start enjoying it as you would do with a bottle of nice old red wine that you must taste slowly bit by bit to get the full flavor.
Actually on the return I think we all enjoyed the "speed" and hoped for it to take even longer and I think it was there that we really started not thinking about fish but about the whole dimension and flavors of the trip itself.
 
I know you want to hear about the boat so I'll tell you my personal impressions.
 
First I am not a sailing man and I realized that in the middle of the crossing on the way to Bassas, strong wind means sailing at increased speeds and moving faster but I really enjoyed the slower breeze moments where power and sail would mix giving you an incredible soft ride on a very calm sea.
I was very impressed by the boat building quality and stability, the range even on motors only is just incredible and our Captain Craig loved powering it at lower RPMs for the 8 Knots ride that allowed us to troll a couple of lines from the back of the boat. If I remember correctly Craig told me even without wind he could do several Vilanculos Bassas trip without refueling.
The specs of "our boat" Leopard 45 might be seen on this review http://www.multihull-maven.com/Boats/Leopard_45
 
Actually I think this boats are not "true" sailboats, the main sail is very easy to use and it's there just for "helping" the two 50HP inboards.
 
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I know Craig is on the process of upgrading to a even bigger boat and I tell you the 45 is huge, very stable and I love the layout of the outside lounge area but Craig wants a bigger one to have extra sleeping cabins but built by the same constructor.
Here is a couple pics of a part of the outside lounge / Dinning area and me, Andre and Denton we are rigging tackle it does not look like it but the boat is on the move to bassas on this pic
 
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Inside it has another ballroom dining area and kitchen, although big and comfortable we never used it we loved being on the outside even when raining,
 
Mooring was always a question of running around the Atoll and moor on the opposite side of the wind.
 
For the trip the support dingy would be stored at the bow of the boat and putting it on the water and back wasn't too complicated
 
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The Cabins were spacious enough for two people with private bathroom on each cabin


What more would you like to know?
 

blaasoppie#1

Senior Member
Hey guys,

How real is the French threat; i read an article some time back where this navy ship confiscated all these guys fishing gear?
 

fedu

Sealiner
blaasoppie#1 wrote:
Hey guys,

How real is the French threat; i read an article some time back where this navy ship confiscated all these guys fishing gear?
In my opinion is real, let's hope they are busy handling the Euro finantial crisis and forget about expeditions to Bassas.

Take you jigging gear with you, you might have to turn back and jig at Jaguar Seamount :)

I think the biggest risk is if coincidently they are on research trip near Bassas.

I've read this before the trip:

"I have been there before, it is a beautiful place for diving and fishing. We got chased away by a French warship, they even threathened to confiscate the yacht we were on. In the end, they gave us 5 minutes to vamoose and then follow us for about 50 nautical miles to make sure we got the message. They latched onto our presence via satelite, they have a proper navy base in Mayotte and in less than 48 hours were able to confront us.

Bassas Da India belong to France and you need to get permission from them to go there - start with the French Embassy here in SA. I can tell you now that it is most unlikely that permission will be granted. If you are set on going there, you will have to risk it and risk the boat you're on. My best advise is to leave within 40 hours of landing there. Sounds like you are going to nhave some fun and games.
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But first let me tell you as far as I know there is no Fishing Permit issued ever, another risk is the weather again as far as I know few trips have managed to stay the full 6 days at the Atoll (some probably because the guys are fed up with it, remember lot's of people dream about this stuff but then are not really ready for it and 6 full days at the Atoll is to much for them) but the weather can play it's tricks and reduce your stay.

We took the outmost care releasing all the fish (except for pelagics like Tuna and Whaoo that we kept some for eating), even dived to make shure the fish was safely released but I think the French would not even look at your conservasionist cares.

One thing we made shure was before the trip we did not talk about it on any open forum to try not alert any kind of Frenchy fundamentalist ....

On the other hand it's a regular stop on yachts sailing up to Madagascar and I think International law gives your right to anchor for 24 Hours repair and maintenance,
 

Fanie

Sealiner
Obregado Fedu !

Fannie eh. I wish, firstly I'd be rich, and secondly I'd probably be invited along :-(

The first time I went sailing there was no wind. It was in a nature reserve and the wildlife was feeding back and forth past us. Not very exciting to say the least ;-) Hence the old trusted iron sails (motors) does have a place, no doubt. The only thing about sails they are quiet and can go non stop as long as there's wind. Cheap once you have them, but I still prefer motors. Much less cluttered.

Those really big yachts have a total different feel, it's almost as if you lose touch with the water and the feel of the swells...

the rocking motion and you start enjoying it as you would do with a bottle of nice old red wine that you must taste slowly bit by bit to get the full flavor
LOL, I'm glad you chose the red wine comparasson option instead of the other one... a good one never the less.

If you've never slept on a boat with the sound of rain on it and the soft heaving on the swells - you haven't lived.

Come on, post some more pictures you guys. It's nice to see all that was there, even if there's not a fish in the picture.
 

Fanie

Sealiner
You guys realize it's very possible to make our own local atoll,
I'm still on about making our own reefs.
 
Well its a refreshing feeling knowing that Bassas is actively protected by them frog  haunch munching fellows!Rather that than have it unprotected and at the mercy of them rapacious,pillaging sons of seaswine!

:SSS
 

BluFlu

Sealiner
@ Blaasoppie

The parrots on Bassas are like pets. You can literally almost stroke them but hooking them and landing them well that is another story. Adds to the pure frustration factor that had our fluffer collegues going back again and again.

@ Fanie

The French have laid claim to Bassas, Europa etc and are in an ongoing fued with Madaggasgar as to the rights.

It is actually administered by an organisation called TAAF that enlists the help of the French navy to assist with enforcement of permits etc.

That said NO permits are issued for fishing and the few that are issued for diving come with an onerous requirement to include and pay for a TAAF representative on board.

TAAF does santion (offer) annual birding trips and research missions to Bassas and I think that is where the problem lies. If you perchance hit Bassas when they are there they chase you away. If they aren't there well then it appears if no one really hassles to much. To quote feedback I received from one of the operators prior to the trip:

"They were chased off in November / early Dec (2010) They were on the atoll for 4 days before the French came back and told them to leave (probably having determined that they did not have a permit to be there). The skipper of the yacht who was helping the owner out for the charter then obtained the info of who to contact from the French on the expedition ship. He later went back to Reunion (control point) in Jan 2011 when sailing in the area. He indicated to them that I had been in negotiations with TAAF the controlling organisation for the French Foreign Protectorates in France. They indicated that changes had been implemented as of Jan 2011 that put them in charge of Bassas."

Note - expidition ship part.

It is a chance one takes and needs to make peace with before you go.

That said two or three days on Bassas in my mind still makes it 100% worthwhile whether chased by frogs or weather issues. It just means that you need to return to Mozambique - possibly past Jaguar Banks as Fedu metioned and chill in paradise eating crab and drinking tipo in the sun.
 

BluFlu

Sealiner
A correction to Fedu's post. Yacht Sarah has two 50hp diesel motors. Basically under power - occasionally with some wind assistance - for four days two and from Bassas Craig used around 250litres of diesel. Makes me shudder when I run out a hundred litres chasing tail at the point!
 

fedu

Sealiner
BluFlu wrote:
A correction to Fedu's post. Yacht Sarah has two 50hp diesel motors. Basically under power - occasionally with some wind assistance - for four days two and from Bassas Craig used around 250litres of diesel. Makes me shudder when I run out a hundred litres chasing tail at the point!
The 250 Liters are with the trolling around and moving to the non-windy side of the Atoll for mooring mostly every couple days ?

By what I've seen the usual fuel tank configuration is between 600 to 700 litres!!!
 

bronxie

Senior Member
Wow. Re-arranging my bucket list too. That is a trip of a lifetime, that no money can buy.

Awesome report and photo's. My lures are rattling in my garage. Time to play the Lotto....^^..

 
 

fedu

Sealiner
BluFlu wrote:
Bet you are very envious with your 3 X 300hps :) What was the fuel consumption on the tuna exploration?
LOL, on crusing speed (not speeding) and doing a bit more tham 200 Nautical Miles a bit less than 1.000 Litres of Gasoline I think the exact number was 980 L (200 Miles plus several hours of trolling)

So I could reach Bassas on a full tank in 8 hours but then would need to refuel...
 

BluFlu

Sealiner
Gent's re costs: it really is not that bad comparitive to visiting for example Seychelles etc.

Flight to and From JHB approx R1500
Flights to VNC approx R3800
Charter = R20000 (include 10 cases of beer and softdrinks and all food)
Extra drinks = R1000 or so

Would say in total around R28 to R30K all in.

Excludes tackle of course :))) but the bonus is that you are away for 13 days making spending money at home rather difficult.

No jokes - try it and get home and you will see how dormant you account lies - no Steers, movies, cigs etc comes off.
 

Fanie

Sealiner
the bonus is that you are away for 13 days making spending money at home rather difficult.

Brilliant argument, so by going fishing one actually saves a lot !

30k six guys is only 5kpp, sounds too good to be true.
 
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