OK guys, I am heading to Angola in Feb and I wi

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Gerhard

Sealiner
OK guys,

I am heading to Angola in Feb and I will have a little time at home.

I will take my Trini 16 and I will buy a Shimano 110H for casting spoons, plugs ect from shore.

I need to know where is a good place in Pretoria I can get proper plugs and spoons.

The rod can handle up to 11 oz but I think max of 5 oz lure will cast a looong way.

What spoons do you recommend?

Will probably have to invest in a bucktail mould to cast upto 4 oz jigs.

I will be in Angola for 3 months at a time so its critical to take enough gear allong....
 
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Long John

New member
Hi Gerhard,

Try Charles Stewart's (ex-Angling Africa) new shop in Lynnwood Rd extension past Hans Strydom, on right hand side heading east just before Silver Lakes turn, -otherwise Solly's at Waterglen Centre.

Too many to choose. 

Charles is a hands on very experienced fisherman and can probably give you best advice, specifically also on lures, spoons and plugs for Angola.

BRGDS

LJT
 
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Reefman

Sealiner
Gerhard, do yourself a favour and make the trip to MIAS Woodmead... it's just down the drag from PTA... it's the biggest tackle store in SA... with awesome variety and as well you get a 30% Sealine discount... Tell Mohamad or Hassen you're from Sealine and that I sent you!

Don't forget to get some Aubrey da Gama chisel nose plugs... they come in 2oz-7oz... the 4 and 5 oz ones go like a rocket with the Exage 110. But if you're thinking of spinning alone, may I be humble enough to suggest you get the Exage100 and team it up with a Spinning reel ... ? It'll make your life much easier to spin for a few hours with. Problem using the Overhead Multipliers for spinning - during an extended session, just one lapse of concentration and friiitttttttt you have a moersa overwind, which will ruin your day...

SPRO make a few beaut poppers now with cupshaped ends, that do well for any of the Gamefish. A few Onde's/Maria jigs and you're in business.

NB: Keep an eye open for Barry Wareham's new range of coloured spoons - apparently they're deadly... they used them extensiively in Angola recently and along with Wes Rapson, they hammered the Garrick with them! Some awesome looking colours - I'm not sure why someone never thought of these before?! Basil Manning owns the agency...

If you can, get a copy of Fish Magazine (SEPTEMBER 2008) - there is an entire article discussing these new spoons where they try them out in Angola. You won't believe the fish they catch with them!

Tight lines boet.

 
 

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Richard M

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Mias in Woodmead has about the best selection I have seen in the JHB/Pta area. I was there in December and they had quite a variety. They had heaps of the williamson stuff also on special, mainly offshore trolling stuff though. One of my mates got me this Jet popper for Xmas. Looks like GT candy. Gonna give it a try in Moz at the end of the month. Don't know if you have ever been there, but it an awesome shop, I could spend hours there. Every Mall should have one!
 

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sparky

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for plugs try the plumbing shop & for spoons...boardmans.
just kidding, basil manning are running specials on the gt ice cream style plugs in 4 & 5 oz. they are selling packs of four in asorted colours for about R120. they have an online shop or just phone them & i'm sure they will post for you. as mentioned above they are also the agents for the 'snapper spoon' but they pretty expensive. try the lighter surecatch (vertical)jigs (75-150gram) - can rig a treble on the back & would serve the same purpose at half the price. good luck
 
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Nepptune

Sealiner
Richard M - Just a word of advice mate... Change out the Split rings and hooks on those Williamson Jet Poppers for something bigger and sturdier... unfortunately ( and I have no frickin idea why!! ) the hooks and rings are not really up to GT standard.... get soem 4X Trebles like Owner ST66's or Gamakatsu 4X as well as some upgraded Spilt rings....
 
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Reefman

Sealiner
[color=#ff6633]Nepptune[/color] wrote:
Richard M - Just a word of advice mate... Change out the Split rings and hooks on those Williamson Jet Poppers for something bigger and sturdier... unfortunately ( and I have no frickin idea why!! ) the hooks and rings are not really up to GT standard.... get soem 4X Trebles like Owner ST66's or Gamakatsu 4X as well as some upgraded Spilt rings....
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Yep agree with Nepps on this one... in fact there are very few makes of Poppers and plugs that have decent Hooks and Rings on. Lost count how many Split rings and hooks opened on Halco Roosta's and Williamson poppers.

Have tried those Williamson jet poppers til blue in the face in Kilwa... nice idea, but as far as I'm concerned, they're gimmicky and don't work very well unless fish are thick, in which case, anything will work. Another negative about them is that they don't float, but work only when submerged...

 
 
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Richard M

Senior Member
I have acouple of Halco Roosta's to try as well. Will change the hooks and rings as you guys recommend. Don't want to risk the chance of losing the fish of a lifetime. There is a spot north of Ponta Malongane called Techobanine which has lots of shallow reef and gullies. Should be good for GT's. You can see the reef quite clearly on google earth, it looks like a good spot to try so I will give it a bash.
 
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Gerhard

Sealiner
Reefman wrote:
Gerhard, do yourself a favour and make the trip to MIAS Woodmead... it's just down the drag from PTA... it's the biggest tackle store in SA... with awesome variety and as well you get a 30% Sealine discount... Tell Mohamad or Hassen you're from Sealine and that I sent you!

Don't forget to get some Aubrey da Gama chisel nose plugs... they come in 2oz-7oz... the 4 and 5 oz ones go like a rocket with the Exage 110. But if you're thinking of spinning alone, may I be humble enough to suggest you get the Exage100 and team it up with a Spinning reel ... ? It'll make your life much easier to spin for a few hours with. Problem using the Overhead Multipliers for spinning - during an extended session, just one lapse of concentration and friiitttttttt you have a moersa overwind, which will ruin your day...

SPRO make a few beaut poppers now with cupshaped ends, that do well for any of the Gamefish. A few Onde's/Maria jigs and you're in business.

NB: Keep an eye open for Barry Wareham's new range of coloured spoons - apparently they're deadly... they used them extensiively in Angola recently and along with Wes Rapson, they hammered the Garrick with them! Some awesome looking colours - I'm not sure why someone never thought of these before?! Basil Manning owns the agency...

If you can, get a copy of Fish Magazine (SEPTEMBER 2008) - there is an entire article discussing these new spoons where they try them out in Angola. You won't believe the fish they catch with them!

Tight lines boet.

 
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Thanks for all the advise Reefman.

Do you know where I would get a copy of the September issue of Fish Magazine?

I will doing a lot of casting from shore in the Luanda and Kwanza area. Luckily I am more comfortable using a multiplier set up than a casting set up. Will be perfect time to practise the pendulum cast as well....

The Trini 16 will go on 110 Exage and I am thinking of loading 25lbs braid on. There is 15lbs nylon on now and will 1st use the setup with the nylon.

My target species will be the "Jacks", Cabera Snapper, African Croaker, Thread fin and maybe Tarpon as well.

Depending on what happens I might take my Torium 30 with the lumis and franklin 5 piece rod as well for casting bait for Sand Sharks and Rays...

I think I am a bit to far north to get Garick and some of those big Shads.

Will keep you posted on what is happening....
Weekends will be exploring time as from February...

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Reefman

Sealiner
[color=#006600]Gerhard[/color] wrote:
Thanks for all the advise Reefman.

Do you know where I would get a copy of the September issue of Fish Magazine?

I will doing a lot of casting from shore in the Luanda and Kwanza area. Luckily I am more comfortable using a multiplier set up than a casting set up. Will be perfect time to practise the pendulum cast as well....

The Trini 16 will go on 110 Exage and I am thinking of loading 25lbs braid on. There is 15lbs nylon on now and will 1st use the setup with the nylon.

My target species will be the "Jacks", Cabera Snapper, African Croaker, Thread fin and maybe Tarpon as well.

Depending on what happens I might take my Torium 30 with the lumis and franklin 5 piece rod as well for casting bait for Sand Sharks and Rays...

I think I am a bit to far north to get Garick and some of those big Shads.

Will keep you posted on what is happening....
Weekends will be exploring time as from February...

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Gerhard, send me your e-mail address and I will try scan the article for you... courtesy of BigFish Saf..

Too far north for the Garrick? I think not... these were caught In Southern Angola on the new Basil Manning spoons on light tackle... and if my memory serves, they are found all the way up the West Coast??
 

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Guest

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Hello G

My advice for plugs would be to try and find Seal Point plugs. My experience with plugs is that you should try and fish the lightest plug you can given the conditions. That said a 3 ounce plug would be where I start and then move up. Conditions that determine the weight plug are chop on the water and strength of the wind. One must be able to keep the plug in the water but it must also not be so heavy that it ploughs through the water. The key is that the action is as lifelike as possible ie a fleeing baitfish. Try to get a number of the thinner plugs aswell. Trevally species tend to like a plug that creates a little more disturbance on the water but the thinner ones will work really well if there is a nice chop on the water.

Spoons. There are a good variety out there but the ones that I have a fondness for are Ashley Read spoons. 3 most popular are the Seriola, Mini round back and keeled round back. These are generally 100 gram spoons.

Good luck

Anton
 
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Gerhard

Sealiner
Haakies wrote:
Hello G

My advice for plugs would be to try and find Seal Point plugs. My experience with plugs is that you should try and fish the lightest plug you can given the conditions. That said a 3 ounce plug would be where I start and then move up. Conditions that determine the weight plug are chop on the water and strength of the wind. One must be able to keep the plug in the water but it must also not be so heavy that it ploughs through the water. The key is that the action is as lifelike as possible ie a fleeing baitfish. Try to get a number of the thinner plugs aswell. Trevally species tend to like a plug that creates a little more disturbance on the water but the thinner ones will work really well if there is a nice chop on the water.

Spoons. There are a good variety out there but the ones that I have a fondness for are Ashley Read spoons. 3 most popular are the Seriola, Mini round back and keeled round back. These are generally 100 gram spoons.

Good luck

Anton
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Thanks Anton,

Where can I go and look for the Seal Point plugs and the spoons you mentioned?
 
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Guest

Guest
I know that Commercial Marine in both PE and St.Francis has them. Wayne Stanley makes these plugs and is to my knowledge based in St. Francis.

Ashley Read is from Cape Town but his spoons are widely distributed. I know that most of the tackle stores in the Garden Route have his spoons.
 
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Edlar Boardman

New member
[color=#0066cc]Reefman[/color] wrote:
Gerhard, do yourself a favour and make the trip to MIAS Woodmead... it's just down the drag from PTA... it's the biggest tackle store in SA... with awesome variety and as well you get a 30% Sealine discount... Tell Mohamad or Hassen you're from Sealine and that I sent you!

Don't forget to get some Aubrey da Gama chisel nose plugs... they come in 2oz-7oz... the 4 and 5 oz ones go like a rocket with the Exage 110. But if you're thinking of spinning alone, may I be humble enough to suggest you get the Exage100 and team it up with a Spinning reel ... ? It'll make your life much easier to spin for a few hours with. Problem using the Overhead Multipliers for spinning - during an extended session, just one lapse of concentration and friiitttttttt you have a moersa overwind, which will ruin your day...

SPRO make a few beaut poppers now with cupshaped ends, that do well for any of the Gamefish. A few Onde's/Maria jigs and you're in business.

NB: Keep an eye open for Barry Wareham's new range of coloured spoons - apparently they're deadly... they used them extensiively in Angola recently and along with Wes Rapson, they hammered the Garrick with them! Some awesome looking colours - I'm not sure why someone never thought of these before?! Basil Manning owns the agency...

If you can, get a copy of Fish Magazine (SEPTEMBER 2008) - there is an entire article discussing these new spoons where they try them out in Angola. You won't believe the fish they catch with them!

Tight lines boet.

 
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Hi Reefer
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Tell me that 30% discount does that go for everyone that are registered as Sealine members. If so how does it work?  
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