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Vasbait

New member
Marthin, however unhappy this makes you, just keep in mind that those kitesurfers go home with smiles on their dials.
 

adam5016

Sealiner
Vasbait wrote:
Adam that looks to be st francis bay ? The legendary waves of bruces has added greatly to the success of what now is st francis bay. They not the ones with a deadly weapon and this will always make you the offender. Do you want to have an assault charge against you ? Surfers are in very few select spots on a few days of the year ,only during day time. Plan your fishing and your will be happy.

what are you talking about, did you even read my post?
 

adam5016

Sealiner
Vasbait wrote:
Adam that looks to be st francis bay ? The legendary waves of bruces has added greatly to the success of what now is st francis bay. They not the ones with a deadly weapon and this will always make you the offender. Do you want to have an assault charge against you ? Surfers are in very few select spots on a few days of the year ,only during day time. Plan your fishing and your will be happy.

so I should file destruction of property charges against a surfer who is smashing up my tackle?
 

TOE 007

Sealiner
jis , check how this thread has be turning out !


@ Vasbait , we do understand your point !


:kaykak:kaykak:kaykak:kaykak::gas:::gas:::gas:::gas:

 

That does look a bit like St francis .
 

Riaandl

Sealiner
Vasbait and Bongi just a question for the 2 of you.... do you have right of way only because you are surfers??

There is no way in hell I shall move if I am first on a spot due 2 a surfer or 2. The sea is big enough for all of us.

And if you looks closely at the photo adam posted you will see that the surfspot and the fishing spot is almost 500m down the coast and they surf about 300m in. Now that makes +/- 600m distance from where we fish to where they surf. Now why do they need to f@@$% up our fishing?
 

Riaandl

Sealiner
Vasbait[/user] wrote:
They not the ones with a deadly weapon and this will always make you the offender.



Deadly weapon? it is a piece of lead launched at high speed into the sea on a piece of nylon. Accidents do happen
 

Mannie

Sealiner
Riaandl wrote:
Vasbait[/user] wrote:
They not the ones with a deadly weapon and this will always make you the offender.



Deadly weapon? it is a piece of lead launched at high speed into the sea on a piece of nylon. Accidents do happen
Very well said Riaan, and boy, can accidents happen fast.
 

surfaMIKE

Senior Member
If you were the first one at your spot, and a surfer/jetski/kayak rocks up and spoils your fishing, then by all means vloek and do whatever to them. They are in the wrong. A surfer is foolish to surf in the way of fishermen anyway, unless if he wants to be the next shark attack victom, or wants to pluck a 7oz out his butt. He is also just plain silly to surf in prime fishing conditions. Unless if you own a longboard, you aint gonna have much fun surfing 2ft slop. I will admit that there are a few surfers that give the rest a bad name

That being said, why the hell would a fisherman fish infront of a 6ft solid, cranking, hollow, dik wave?? Go fish somewhere else where your sinker can stay put. And its true that there are way more fishing spots than surfing spots. Even at a normal surfing spot, surfers have to wait ages for the wind, sand banks, and wave direction to line up to actually get a decent swell, and then the next day it disappears, and they are left chasing another swell for a few yonks. Fishermen have alot more resources and coastline to play with than surfers. You literally DO have the whole ocean to fish in. Alot (note Im not saying most) of fishermen leave the place in a dump. Guts and beer cans everywhere. Surfers are very environmentally aware (hell they are banding together to stop a nuclear power station from being built close to J-Bay), and it annoys alot of them when they see a bait box floating past them. No wonder you two hate each other. If you going to vloek the surfer, rather then vloek the guy next to you catching undersize fish. Chuck lead at him. Not the surfer. Its not like a surfer can dodge a sinker very easily

Cant we just share in peace? The ocean isnt yours, and its definitely NOT the surfers either

Im so sick of this war between surfers and fishermen, but I can promise you that the two have alot more in common than they think. So hell if a surfer doesnt wanna move, then why cant you move? It would keep your blood pressure lower, and who knows, you just might move onto a 30kg kob
 

Riaandl

Sealiner
Surfmike I agree with you to a point.

First come first serve is the way it should work. If a surfer comes up to me and ask if he may surf infront of me then I don't have the slightest problem, I might even move. but if he just come and surf all over my line and spoiling my day I am not a happy camper. And yes who fishes in 6ft waves? I do if the fish are at that spot.

And NO fisherman I know of will go and look for a surfing spot to fish, but SOME of the surfer go and look for a fishing spot to surf. Like the photo Adam posted.
 

surfaMIKE

Senior Member
Riaandl wrote:
Surfmike I agree with you to a point.

First come first serve is the way it should work. If a surfer comes up to me and ask if he may surf infront of me then I don't have the slightest problem, I might even move. but if he just come and surf all over my line and spoiling my day I am not a happy camper. And yes who fishes in 6ft waves? I do if the fish are at that spot.

And NO fisherman I know of will go and look for a surfing spot to fish, but SOME of the surfer go and look for a fishing spot to surf. Like the photo Adam posted.

Then you have full right to swear him if he has no manners. Hell I hate it myself when one of my buddies Im surfing with annoys the fishermen

I must admit that I have surfed over lines before at cape vidal, but that was purely because I got caught in a rip and was either getting dragged to mozambique, or catching a wave in and ride over lines. I didnt enjoy doing that, and was too embarassed to look at the fishermen when I got to shore. So some actions are by mistake, or not meant to cause harm at all

Must say that if it wasnt for a group of surfers and body boarders at cape vidal, a fishermen wouldve drowned after their boat capsized. See? We still human
 

remlin

New member
Well if i was fishing in an area first and a surfer or 2 rocks up and spoils my fishing, i would just practice my casting with 8 and 9oz sinkers.You know when you need to practice your cast to get your bait in an exact spot, you can think his surf-board is that spot and just gooi those sinkers at it :fbash
 

surfaMIKE

Senior Member
You do realise that you can kill someone if your sinker hits their head. So why take the chance? The trouble you will get in if you kill him will be alot worse than the trouble to just quietly move to another spot
 

remlin

New member
Why must the fisherman always be first to move if he was fishing the spot first.Why can't the surfer go to another spot???
 

Vasbait

New member
Remlin, because it doesnt effect the surfer if you there or not.You, on the otherhand want to kill them if they at your spot. Surfers jump off the rocks you stand on and enter the foodchain. Your swear words and flying sinkers are nothing to stop him from having a session.
 

remlin

New member
Cool - so in other words whose fault will it be if he sees a group of fisherman at a spot and he still decides to go for a surf and then a guy decides to throw a bait out and moors him straight on the head - then he gets dizzy falls in the water and drowns.Is it the fishermans fault or is it he's fault for being negligent or should the group of fisherman just move to another spot???
 

remlin

New member
Yo Yo - to all the surfer dudes on Sealine.Just teasing as i believe everybody has the right to share the ocean.It belongs to everyone and not just fisherman but it is also a give and take situation where peeps need to use common sense - if a fisherman arrives at a spot and sees that there are surfers there then he must move to the next spot and it must also work vice versa.

I just gave an example on my top thread of something that could happen if both parties are oblivious to the fact of each other in the same spot.I seriously don't think you going to get a fisherman whose going to stand there and throw sinkers at the surfers, it's just a statement of sarcasim. We fisherman also get aggrivated as the surfers do cause we just wanna get a good day of fishing done same like how the surfers wanna catch or ride that perfect wave.....
 

Riaandl

Sealiner
remlin wrote:
Well if i was fishing in an area first and a surfer or 2 rocks up and spoils my fishing, i would just practice my casting with 8 and 9oz sinkers.You know when you need to practice your cast to get your bait in an exact spot, you can think his surf-board is that spot and just gooi those sinkers at it :fbash

If you are only casting a sinker and hit a surfer, you'll be in trouble.

If you are first on the spot, the surfer takes over, and you hit him by accident with bait. I'll call it a accident.
 

Riaandl

Sealiner
Vasbait wrote:
Remlin, because it doesnt effect the surfer if you there or not.You, on the otherhand want to kill them if they at your spot. Surfers jump off the rocks you stand on and enter the foodchain. Your swear words and flying sinkers are nothing to stop him from having a session.

So if I cast a lekker chokka combo and a 8 onz sinker into your surfboard I quess it will have a effect on your session?

'n mooi sê dingetjie.... moenie k@k soek wat kon gebly het nie.
 
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