MAG-IT Demonstration Video

[Trophy]

Hiya guys,

I have been fishing braid on multipliers for a good few years now, but mainly on the smaller type reels. Over the years I learnt the lessons the hard way and learnt which reels and what braids are best.

I have braid on a GW20, TN14, TOR16, TOR20 and Fathom 15. All these reels cast very easily and without problems.

I very seldom throw a crows nest and have never had to cut braid after a bunch cast. At worst it's a couple of coils and your good to go.

I have had issues with 30 sized reels and braid where the knife and scissors have had to come out! I will be looking to mag by Cedros very soon and want to fill this demon reel with 50lb braid. Looking forward to seeing the results. If the mag kit can tame this reel...then I will be VERY impressed!

I have used braid for throwing scratching and speculative baits, spoons and lures. I fish 50lb braid and a 0.50mm leader and hook snoods. I hardly ever snap up the braid as the leader or trace always pops first. I get all the benefits of braid line fishing...sensitivity and solid hooks ups and more so have saved the ocean of thousands of meters of mono line that I would have otherwise donated adding to the pollution of our fishing spots.

Hook and hold is a myth as most rods will snap long before the line diameters we generally use? Saying this I have managed quite a few hook and hold on this "light setup".

I will be asking Mark to tackle my Cedros very soon and if the mag works as well as I expect then it's braid all the way on my heavier setup very soon.

Hit n hold 72cm Cracker in VERY foul Kini Bay. 50lb braid and .50 leader and snood. Ryoichi #9 hook, TN14 on a Enigma 12ft DC Oval.

 

[Enigma]

Brett I've Magged the Leverdrag and Stardrag Cedros (15S) and they cast an shot and a half.

Tienie has filled his CSD15S with 600m of 75lbs HMP as a mainline. Used up to 0.80 leader and 0.60mm hooklines but usually 0.40-50mm hooklines so he seldom if ever has to re-tie a leader.

 

[Cuban Cigar]

Hi Brett !

Lovely cracker there and on that kind of gear in a foul spot, it's a totally different game, than when you hook it from a sandy beach with space to play.

I don't know what kind of tackle you neeed, to prevent certain species, over a certain size, to make that first run, without something giving in ?

I recently hooked a couple of really decent white steenbras, in a very foul gallie spot and was seriously impressed, just how fast those 70-90cm plus guys, could make that first extended rush for freedom, despite a rather tightly buttoned down Carbontex drag !

I really enjoyed the direct pressure I could apply with the braid (Fireline actually), despite only fishing a little 11ft PG 300/3/2-piece and modded sl20sh and was surprised by the fact that I could actually turn and land a couple of them, while a rather experienced angler with much heavier gear and nylon mainline, that stood just next to me, also hooked a couple and didn't manage to turn and land one.

Luck probably also played it's part, but I gained renewed respect for modern equipment that in the lighter sixes seems to box way above it's weight class .

Cheers and keep sending us those nice pics from your side of the country !

 

[Marthin]

it's the age old trick... take .55 or even .60 mainline, tie it round your hand and let someone pull at it from 80m away on a 6 ounce tip rod hard as they can. Hold your hand to your chest and see how hard he needs to pull or even better how far he needs to move to just get your arm to extend.

Now do the same by holding on to the .90 leader and 80lb braid. He'll move your hand the first time he lifts the rod even on a relatively "pap" 6 ounce tip.

And that's how hard you need to pull to make a fish change direction.

 

[Enigma]

Marthin wrote:

it's the age old trick... take .55 or even .60 mainline, tie it round your hand and let someone pull at it from 80m away on a 6 ounce tip rod hard as they can. Hold your hand to your chest and see how hard he needs to pull or even better how far he needs to move to just get your arm to extend.

To set the hook properly or turn a fish on nylon (in this scenario) you have to wind down against the drag to get the stretch out and then lift the rod and you will more the hand holding the line.

Problem with this is that by the time you have done that the bait could be dropped or the fish is around the first rock already.

 

[grootvis]

Found this....thought it was good to see a 15/30 loose line like that, and it never seemsedike going pear shaped at all at any time, it's not MAG-it but internal magging of some sort I take it......Suppose we will see similiar results? You might have seen it already.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQBdZTLTzRY

 

[grootvis]

With all this hype going around about magging systems, and in particular about " adjustability" and the Mag it system not being able to make adjustments without opening the reel up, well, I was just thinking about that again, and you know what, with just the smallest turn of the dial you have all the adjustment necessary without having to open the reel up!

So if you fishing and all of a sudden the conditions change, just adjust your reels built in tension knob, and voila, you can still cast without thumbing and worries about over winds, and when you need to change again, just, turn out the tension know again! That is what it is there for right?

 

[Enigma]

Yes and No Grootvis

The internal Mag is an assisting tool and although not a finely tuned as the Knobby or Slider system it is a system I find to be way better suited for fishing and the Knobby / Slider better suited to tournament casting.

The Knobby can be used for both and I doubt the internal static would be a favourite in tournament casting.

The slightest addition of control with the cast control cap on your reel in addition to your preset mag reel gives you as much adjustment as the guy using the Knobby with the exception of not being able to drop to ZERO influence.

 

[grootvis]

Got my reels magged. Can't wait to have my rods finished so I can use test it out and adjust it. So excited to have these and can only imagine how nice it's going to be to cast without loosing a mm of thumb skin....

 

[grootvis]

Just one question,

Before I go any further with this post, just want to tell you , its just an idea or thought, I know alot of guys will say why do you need that or this...etc etc...

If you fit ceramic bearings to a magged reel, Ill obviously have to readjust the Mag-it as the start up speed will be far more? lets say ABEC#5 or #7 bearings?

 

[grootvis]

Just one question,

Before I go any further with this post, just want to tell you , its just an idea or thought, I know alot of guys will say why do you need that or this...etc etc...

If you fit ceramic bearings to a magged reel, Ill obviously have to readjust the Mag-it as the start up speed will be far more? lets say ABEC#5 or #7 bearings?

 

[Enigma]

Startup speed is more and hence the Flux is more and the interaction between Magnet and Generated flux is more.

Maybe a 0.5-1mm shift in magnet position but I doubt you will see any difference in the Mag-IT managing the reel, more just an increase in distance.

 

[grootvis]

Thanks craig!

 

[grootvis]

I have 3 Shimano calcutta reels, models 200A and 100A,and a  Shimano 200TR. Can these be magged?

 

[Enigma]

They said the Torium 14 and SL20 & 30 couldn't be magged but they were the easiest to mag and they are now awesome with Braid on them.

You'd have to ask Cuban Cigar if he has done any.

 

[bambooskollie]

http://www.fishingheadquarters.net/newresmre.html

Just get one of these - Real Candy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Release-SM3000R-Star-Mag-Reel-Free-Visor-Long-Distance-Surf-Casting-Fishgrain-/221817876099


GROOTvis -
Although the posts are from 2007 in here ,they touch on magging the calcuttas with some easy to read pictures.

http://www.tx-sharkfishing.com/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=833

 

[grootvis]

Very interesting, i would have to open them up and have a look. These are the smaller sizes so could be a bit more tricky, but damn, if i can get those calcuttas sorted, and be able to throw a single prawn with a single small ball sinker a fair distance without getting backlash or overwind, will be absolute bonus, they are very tricky to control even with the centrifugal brakes.

Thanks for the links, baboeskollie!

Might just have to send one off to cuban for testing purposes if he hasnt done one yet.

 

[bambooskollie]

Nice spelling Pal -

I would go adjustable for that type of application.
Very similar to flippin for bass with small arty's.
Lighter spools can be finicky to set up correctly statically when the conditions are fluctuating.
Quite a few bass fishing reels have external adjustables on them.

 

[grootvis]

My apologies bambooskollie, it is a daily battle with predictive text on my tablet!!......you wouldnt believe some of the words that get selected......lol.

Yeah, these small reels are tricky, there was some useful info on those sites. Will see what i can find. Shot!

 

[Cuban Cigar]

Bambooskollie is right, in that these little reels, with their tiny, lightweight spools and high rpm's generated, can be rather finicky and some even come with all three the casting aids - magnetic/centrifugal and conventional spool tension knob.

I have a little Daiwa Coastal 153H saltwater baitcaster,(sadly now discontinued), that I bought for grunter fishing and that a lot of guys used to use for tigerfish in the Delta - this little reel can be casted with only the centrfg and set quite lightly, as long as you cast it with 3\8oz or heavier, but go lighter and you have to really fiddle between the different settings on it's cntrfg cast control and the conventional spool tension knob, to set it up for effective casting !