I'm going to  fish at a private dam this vaca

Ryan

Sealiner
Pipeman - wow bru those are sum seriously huge snakes 11" - whats that 30cm?

Will probs work - before you buy have a look at a few top water lures like the Zara spook, hula popper, chug bug, buzz baits and my all time favorite Dying flutter.

What you want to do is use this (dying flutter) when it is getting dark. Cast it up against a good looking piece of structure. Let it land and lie for about 10 secs. Give it a short hard pull so that the blades turn and it makes a short racket.

wait 5 secs. Now do the same but this time give it two hard pulls within 2secs of one another. wait 20 secs and repeat the process.

Be warned the strikes are normally very agressive - I have often had bass launch themselves out of the water next to the lure and hit on the way down back into the water. Just remeber when fishing with surface lures when you get a hit count to 2 before you stike - this allows for the bass to turn and is facing down when you set the hooks otherwise you pluck the lure from it's lips if you strike on contact.

Basically all surface lures should be fished on a twitch twitch rest twitch pattern. vary this and don't be scared to leave the lure for even longer. I have had bass hit me 4/5mins after I have made the cast and have been trying to sort out an overwind. Just rember summer/low light and a light wind - poison for big bass.

Hope this helps.
 

Rapala

New member
Ryan, hate to be a drag mate but you don't have a picture of that "Dying Flutter"?

 

I have never seen one before and it sounds like fun to use.

If it's a drag not too worry then mate.
 

Strike Pro

New member
[color=#006600]Pipeman[/color] wrote:
Thanks MAN! I use most of these techniques! The problem is the fish in the are very aggressive and I'm almost the only person fishing this water. The smaller ones smack these normal size lures! I use superflukes, brushhogs and stickworms and they are all quite big , but the smaller fish keep on getting to these baits first! I have tried Spinnerbaits, but they also don't get past these smaller fish! What do you think should I try?
Pipeman, i must agree with Man a natural presentation is almost the best!! but in most of my experiences the bigger the lure the bigger the bass! I would fish a superfluke on a small mojo...just to get a few keepers, and then to target the big fish i would throw a weightless ol'monster 10.5' worm,big dead Ringer 8';Mag lizzard or a 6' or even 7' Senko... but match the sun. if it is a cloudy day junebug, green pumpkin or green pumpkin red! If its a nice sunny day throw a watermelon seed or watermelon red colour. Crankbaits could become tricky when fishing from the bank so a 1/2oz spinnerbait is a great second option! but yet again colours are the most importend! white,brizzle back(GOld shinner), silver work great combined on a double willow leaf or tandem blade with silver/gold blades! but when its cloudy go for a solid chartruese or red checker(Terminator Stainless series) matched with a colorado blade for a slower retrieve with much more vibrations!:D
 
Rapala, (Darth Vader, in a green thong) ghooooo, caghooooo, "LUKE. I'M YOUR FATHER" ghoooo, what ya smokin sir?

Pipeman, although I've never caught a serious LGF yet, my biggest came off a strike pro jerkbait, arc minnow shape in strike pro's fire-tiger intepretation, (not a traditional fire-tiger coloured lure, but very close) Like Ryan suggested with the dying flutter technique, I apply the twicth/jerks to the lure except the delay between the jerks are almost non-existent, rather constant jerking applied to the lure with a variation of one/two and two/three short but seriously hard committed jerks.  so much so that the lure turns and face backwards almost always after the jerks.

This technique has delivered small bassie's at a rate of 35 in an hour and a half, just indicating that it does make them angry, however like i said my biggest is 2,12, so perhaps a larger lure and some serious pauses between jerks/twitches is something i should look at and try.

the waters in your pics looks great, You Are envied something serious bud.

just my green 2c worth

:f1shy
 
[color=#006600]Ryan[/color] wrote:
Pipeman - wow bru those are sum seriously huge snakes 11" - whats that 30cm?

Ryan, there's some vid's on that website, and holy smoke those things has great action, it really works just like a snake would move through the water surface level like, I checked them out way back when i was still a rookie sealiner (still am in certain sections) anyhows never invested in them as I have never thought of small snakes as bass fodder all that convinced, but the vid's proof something else. BTW, they're USA products and those them yanks, well fish completely different from us, anuhows there are also some testimonies from some SA anglers claiming the snakes worth, so, I'll get the website again and post a link, so you's can check it out for yourselves.

:f1shy
 

Pipeman

Senior Member
I decided to try and make me my own snake this pass weekend out of foam! I tested in our swimmingpool and it actually had the same action! I will test it in the vacation on the dam and let you know what happened!
 

Ryan

Sealiner
Dying Flutter as Promised please take note of the wear from catching so many monster bass. This lure is 3 years old now and I only use it in the slowveld.
 

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:f1shy  now has to go and get himself one of these, luckily I can blame all my compulsive tackle shopping on peeps like Loams and Ryan.......::respekt:
 

Skaap Tjop

Senior Member
You should try rapala Skitter Prop, for me the best top water lure on the market...
 

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Rapala

New member
Nice boys....i also want one yes.

I don't have much experience with topwater bait tho. Thanx for picture mate ( took you long enough )

;)
 

Skaap Tjop

Senior Member
Lgf,

The only time I fish the Skitter Prop lure is with about 30min of daylight left till its dark, and very early in the morning when I see some activity on the surface.

Works like no other topwater lure for me...

Have anyone tried the spro topwater frogs?
 

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Ryan

Sealiner
Yes.

Best frogs on the market - killer on top of lily pads especially in the slowveld.

The spro frogs are the best as they are totally weedless swim with a real frog action and have Gummie hooks.

What is also nice about them is that if you trim one of the legs shorter than the other they swim very erratically inducing more strikes. They are my no 2 surface lure especially in heavy cover.

I have a box full of the Both the Spro frog JNR and SNR ones. Also one of the few lures on the market that you can buy in a totally black colour - deadly colour and I don't know why more manufactorers make more - I guess it is the guys buying it off the shelves - Fisherman tend to go for the brightly coloured flash goodies.
 

Rapala

New member
What the hell is going on now?? Where is all my mana? I had 3 bars full and one to go?

Who is editing a persons private profile?
 

Land Locked

Senior Member
Rapala, possibly there was a problem with the system that has since been corrected or the people that had given mana to you decided to remove it.
 

Rapala

New member
Nobody removed it mate, i know who gave it to me.

And no the problem with the system has not been fixed because my mana is still gone!

This is horse arse....i'm outa here.
 
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