i want to go to ruimsig dam on friday morning its

[chris_leon]

thats exactly the point. I mean i saw the guy in question. He goois a tent, his wife and two kids. They get dropped off sommer by some old tannie - apparently the skoon tannie that cooks the vis for him.

If you have money to buy Supercast and Oorlog and Floaties etc, then you definately have money to buy bread and butter for your family....

He has no car, and on sunday they all got picked up with the fish caught. So what can you do...

 

[chris_leon]

Gerrit that is no problem at all mate.

I will be doing a session next weekend so if you keen to pull in, you can fish the jetty swim, ill fish my normal spot. You and your son are more than welcome to come sit and ill share with you what i know.

 

[SHINO]

@carp1

lol, ja i know what you mean... suppose you cant win 'em all. personally if a oke came and asked me for fish that i'd caught coz he needed food, i'd give it without batting and eyelid...

 

[Gerrit Oosthuizen]

Well at least we are now speaking of the correct people.

I live next to Monument Dam and dread every morning that I pass the dam and that I see them because then I know that a couple of fish will be taken out of the dam again.

 

[Gerrit Oosthuizen]

Thanks Chris, we will be in contact and make arrangements.

 

[chris_leon]

ay ya yai.... yes i must apologise Gerrit. You know us Specimen do not take well at all to fish being culled especially the larger fish over 5kg.

That would be such a heartsore thing for me hey. Id prob end up dead after two weeks. Id spend time diving underwater and cutting all the pappi's lines hahaha

 

[CARP1]

@ Shino.  Very true what you say there.Its a bit of a difficult situation.A Catch-22....

 

[SHINO]

no one will smaak to eat butter and bread everyday, for some theres no choice. but you know that saying 'give a man a fish...' taking a 6 or 7 kg fish is uncalled for but i don't see anything wrong in keeping 3 or 4 1kg fish to feed the fam...

@ gerrit

now that i hear he does this daily it means that he doesn't even care bout finding a job... some people just don't have a gedagte to speak of...

 

[CARP1]

I think the most positive contribution Speciman has made to our local fishing is the fish-care part.I only fish socially,and do it conventional style.

The only time I will put a fish in my keepnet is when its a small muddie or small carp,and I plan to use the head for Snorre.The rest of the fish goes back in the water straight away.Hell,Im even planning to buy a proper unhooking mat to further prevent injury to fish.

Now I can almost guarantee that if the Speciman segmant wasnt as high profile as it currently is,it would have taken a lot longer for me (personally) to reach that point.

So,thank you,gents.

 

[Gerrit Oosthuizen]

@ Chris_Leon

My friend caught that mirror carp 12kg @ Monument Dam and it was put back. One thing I can say is that all fish that are caught are photographed (now with date and time) on camera and then safely released.

 

[SHINO]

that's true it has made a great contribution and i may never do the hectic sessions and feeding campaigns, but my eye's have been opened to a whole new world regarding carp care... i'll always gooi mielie bombs but have changed traces to be more carp friendly and would like to invest in an unhooking mat...

 

[chris_leon]

Gents please do not get me wrong.
I am a normal soutie that loves fishing!

i started out exactly the same, i was a speciepap for a longtime. Being a full papi just with pod and alarms and big landing nets...

We have no problems with 1,2, 3 and 4 kilo fish being taken out. its the bigger OLDER wiser, shy fish that break our hearts.

Here's an interesting stat. Carp on Average grow between 1-2kg in their first year. There after they grow on average 500g a year. meaning a 7 or 9 kilo fish is on average already 16 years old.

Take as many smallies as you want, it will benefit the dam in any event. As if more small fish are gone, this means more food for the bigger fish, and eventually means ONLY BIG FISH!!!!

Its up to us to stand together and fight and protect our waters.

Very Well done mate, that is a step in the right direction. Remeber its about protecting the fish, so that when some else catches it, they find the fish in the same condition you did.

Remember every fish you catch, is a present from another angler. So give a present to another angler and put the fish back......

 

[chris_leon]

guys, our passion is the same. We love Carp, and we love to protect them. The only difference is our method. I made a choice, i had cuaght plenty 2's and 3's and 4kg.... But the day i caught a 7kilo out of Zoo Lake and another out of Roos Se oord all on my own.... I decided big fish is going to be my target. And so the love affair with Carp began.......

 

[Gerrit Oosthuizen]

@ Chris_Leon

Now the laaitjie says to me have we as papgooiers been fishing wrong all of the time. Well I don't think so. But as specimen anglers I bet you we have.

What I said to him is that we are now going to target bigger fish and therefore we have to change.

Well I hope we can learn from you Chris and change over to specimen.

 

[chris_leon]

Guys i have a Nash Unhooking Matt i want to sell. Reason for sale - its too small for the fish im catching now. It'll do great to fish of up to 10kg even my 14 kilo was ok, but there isnt enough space above the fish and below. Its dimensions are 500cm x 1.2m x 3cm.

Im going to buy 1.5m x 1.5m x 3cm. Let me know if there are any takers....

 

[SHINO]

500cm? what fish you catching that it's become too small? lol ... kiddding guess u mean 50cm... what price you want for it?

 

[chris_leon]

I do not agree with your sons statement. If you never knew specimen or was never introduced how would you know any better?

Remember the focus of specimen carp angling is on CARP CARE CARP CARE CARP CARE!!!
Its easy to catch a fish, not so easy to catch Big ones consistently and care for them like a small children....

But once that feeling of achievement and the realisation that you have captured such a specimen, man o man i hope your single, or your wife loves it when your out the house, because your love affair will start.......

You will soon dream, eat, think and speak carp!!!! I quite rugby this year for it. And i reckon if my gf didnt love me as much as she does, i would have lost that as well. But again i dont care. ITs about the CARP for me.....

I have no problem teaching and showing you guys everything. The more knowledge i can part with, the more there will be for others to gain.....

 

[chris_leon]

shino, sorry mate, dropped amths in grade 10 so uh ja....
Honest mate i bought it in Feb this year for R400.

I'll part with it for R250. there is nothing wrong with it, not a hole, not a scratch. it also has a carry bag to put it into. and ofcourse its Nash. UK's top brand for those who dont know it.

 

[chris_leon]

this is the cradle i am looking to get

 

[SHINO]

when are you doing a session again at ruimsig?