Hi Gents, Ok. after the rod debacle was sorted ou

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HV

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Hi Gents,

Ok. after the rod debacle was sorted out i now need a new heavy jigging rod.

Now, to define heavy it will be used locally so i looked around at a couple off options.

Firstly. My intentions is to buy a top end "heavy setup" for exotic locations on a later date so this needs to be a budget conscious heavy setup for local conditions and fishing.

The rods i have looked at is the following:

Shimano Beastmaster heavy
Shimano Speedmaster heavy
Shimano Jigwrex 526
JM Oceon God 280

I Know the first 2 is serious budget rods and the latter ones is more in the medium category.

I am leaning towards the Jigwrex because it has nicer guides etc.

Oh, and i would probably hook the rod up with a Saragossa 14-18k with 80lb braid.

Any suggestions or alternatives ??

Greets

Hubert
 
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Dingleberry

Senior Member
Beastmasters are great blanks. Guides are rubbish. If you are pushed for bucks and you could get one for a good price, it could be worthwhile replacing the guides.
 
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benniejordaan

Sealiner
I would rather have 2 cheaper rods than 1 very expensive rod. Expensive rods also get stolen, break in car doors etc.

If you can afford it, just buy the JM and you wont be sorry.

If you want something serious look for 1 piece rods as a rule.

Rods on a budget as a backup in the same price range as the Beastmaser, look at the Kingfisher Poseidon range, the one with the blue handle, it is brilliant! When they were discontinued guys would buy up second hand ones for just about new prices because they were so good. They then got the Cobra jig but it never lived up to the original. I see they have reintroduced it because of demand! I still have the original. I love it! It is a 2 pc rod but is fairly parabolic!

Another rod I like that was actually recommended to me by Mark Delahay is the Shimano Grandwave.

Beastmasters... I have broken one and so has my mate. They don't float my boat!
 
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tackle whore

Senior Member
look at the boca jigging rods food value for money and the guys in usa landed some impressive blue fin and amberjack on them , www360tuna.com - search boca jigging rods .
 
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benniejordaan

Sealiner
tackle whore wrote:
look at the boca jigging rods food value for money and the guys in usa landed some impressive blue fin and amberjack on them , www360tuna.com - search boca jigging rods .
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Hey Mark, any good deals on Synit rods? I would be keen on another one - 200 grams. IF I can afford it that is! Are you still an agent for them?
 
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benniejordaan

Sealiner
Also consider Shimano Travela rods. They are still great value for money.

Images from Sportfisherman.com

These are Shimano Travela rods 270gram and 325 gram rating. They are both fighting 100Lb Amberjacks!

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BTW, what jigs or depth are you going to be jigging? I find that 300 gram rods are more versatile if you are only taking 1 rod. In which case look at the JM Power spell.
 
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benniejordaan

Sealiner
Have a look at this. It is one of the best rods ever. They utilize Kevlar in these blanks.

http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=70353&forum_id=115&jump_to=955442#p955442
 
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Super_Daav

Member
benniejordaan wrote:
Another rod I like that was actually recommended to me by Mark Delahay is the Shimano Grandwave.
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Bennie, I think you are talking about the Daiwa Grandwave. The Heavy is rated to 200gr jigs roughly and seriously good value for money!! Love mine to death!
 
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benniejordaan

Sealiner
Super_Daav wrote:
benniejordaan wrote:
Another rod I like that was actually recommended to me by Mark Delahay is the Shimano Grandwave.
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Bennie, I think you are talking about the Daiwa Grandwave. The Heavy is rated to 200gr jigs roughly and seriously good value for money!! Love mine to death!
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LOL, yes - Daiwa Grandwave.

It is the rod mostly used by Mark on ESA. And he caught some proper fish!

If he can use and recommend it as often as he did/does then I reckon it will be good for 3 trips per year!
 
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Bwana

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In my opinion a rod rated to 200g is not classed as heavy.

My feeling is you can't go wrong with the Shimano Jigwrex or Trevala XXH as both are very strong and can handle jigs 300g+

No problem with the Saragossa 14000 but I'd go for the 18000 as it has the bigger spool.

Nice setup either way.
 
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Nepptune

Sealiner
benniejordaan wrote:
Ocean God 280 is also not badly priced at R2200 before discount! ;)
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That is actually a SILLY price for that rod..... that Ocean God is an incredible stick, and definitely boxes above its weight class..... to be honest, at that price, looking anywhere else is a bit nuts in my opinion!!!! :wfish
 
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tkei

Sealiner
From what I have seen the Ocean god is best by far for that price. The beast masters etc are all in the 800-1500 bracket, but their eyes and seats are kak. blanks are decent (pulled aj to 27kgs on the speedmaster heavy in kenya last month) but the joint in the sections is dodgy and the yes are rubbish.

IMO Ocean god is the way to go, or save again and go more top end.

I dont see the trevalla having much better eyes (i amy be wrong) but the eyes are shimano's downfall, from the exage to the jigging rods (blue rose excluded). That said the blue rose we used in jenya had the reel seat spin loose on the blank.
 
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benniejordaan

Sealiner
tkei wrote:
From what I have seen the Ocean god is best by far for that price. The beast masters etc are all in the 800-1500 bracket, but their eyes and seats are ***. blanks are decent (pulled aj to 27kgs on the speedmaster heavy in kenya last month) but the joint in the sections is dodgy and the yes are rubbish.

IMO Ocean god is the way to go, or save again and go more top end.

I dont see the trevalla having much better eyes (i amy be wrong) but the eyes are shimano's downfall, from the exage to the jigging rods (blue rose excluded). That said the blue rose we used in jenya had the reel seat spin loose on the blank.
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That is the the reason you need a backup! It can happen to any rod. Nico has a Jigstar and the ring fell out of one of the guides, these things just happen! Doesn't mean I wont buy another Jigstar or a Blue rose.
 
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Nepptune

Sealiner
benniejordaan wrote:
tkei wrote:
From what I have seen the Ocean god is best by far for that price. The beast masters etc are all in the 800-1500 bracket, but their eyes and seats are ***. blanks are decent (pulled aj to 27kgs on the speedmaster heavy in kenya last month) but the joint in the sections is dodgy and the yes are rubbish.

IMO Ocean god is the way to go, or save again and go more top end.

I dont see the trevalla having much better eyes (i amy be wrong) but the eyes are shimano's downfall, from the exage to the jigging rods (blue rose excluded). That said the blue rose we used in jenya had the reel seat spin loose on the blank.
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That is the the reason you need a backup! It can happen to any rod. Nico has a Jigstar and the ring fell out of one of the guides, these things just happen! Doesn't mean I wont buy another Jigstar or a Blue rose.
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Thats a good point Bennie, things happen to even the very best of tackle... although most cases of rings popping out of any guides usually happens when guys wind the jig right up to the tip of the rod without concentrating and the Solid/SPlit ring cranks straight into the tip guide which causes the ring to pop out... I've seen it happen on a number of rods from all manner of brands, along all price ranges, including the very high end versions!!!

 

So you definitely make a good point about having a back up.... hopefully you won't need it, but it can save your trip if something goes wrong with your primary stick like it getting snapped in a car door or lodge room door or similar....

 

But most important, is good care of your quality tackle.... and making sure that anyone who handles your tackle ( guides, gillies etc ) are just as careful, if not more so.... high end products need to be treated as such...
 
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benniejordaan

Sealiner
The best rod I have ever laid my hands on...

The Synit! This is the 300gram rod! Here coupled with a Stella 20000 GP and 100LB braid.
 

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