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KUSAF

Senior Member
Ive had a chat to a few of my friends about this and heres what they say.

Fishing particles will most probably bring you more fish but the size will definately be smaller than when fishing boilies.

If you travel north leave the boilies at home, especially in summer months. Maize, tigers and peanuts.

Fishing local gp waters theres nothing better than a good guality boilie.

Check these two links out and you will see what I mean. Most big fish on tigers will be doorndraai, buffels, fanie's.

http://www.outdoorpages.co.za/Gallery/Photos/PhotoList.asp?ID=1

http://www.outdoorpages.co.za/Gallery/Photos/PhotoList.asp?ID=2

We will always start out with particles and have some crushed and whole boilies in the mix. Slowly getting the fish onto the boilies and slowly increasing the percentage of boilies in the mix. As soon as we can roughly determine the head odf the water we make up our minds on baiting tactics. Sometimes its not worthwile to feed boilies.

The best bait that I can recommend is 50kg of maize. Prebaiting a spot with maize will get you much more action than just randomly putting down tigers.

My Zim 1$
 

Spod

Senior Member
Hey Kusaf, my point exactly, maize is really under rated. Im busy feeding a spot and only drop maize there, next week boillies and maize, will be doing a session in feb and 2lines will have maize and 2lines boillies. Boillies crushed & whole in the ground feed does turn the fish to them and its the way to go if larger fish are seeked. slowly catch the monkey...lol!
Geez! you also into Zim currency now? not worth much hahaha!
 

Kingfisher-guy

Senior Member
Okay thanx guys will definetly try boilies again but I think only when Im fishing for over 3 days. Im not close enough to any good dams so I cant prefeed it a week or so before the time. When we feed we always concentrate on not overfeeding coz we normally go for 3 days tops! (thats until I get my license!;) hehe. And I trust Kusaf in what he said that you will produce bigger fish with boilies and then it most probably takes longer.
But if I catch a carp on boilies Il post a pic in this thread! haha

Okay one more question. In specimen angling its very important to get everything right the first time so that you dont waste 24hours on what spod says is a dead line. So if your not certain about a flavor at a specific dam, must you keep your baits plain or experiment with flavors?

I definetly dont wana put a flavor in the dam that will just chase the BFC away so I keep my baits plain.

and oja what flavors would you say is garunteed to attract and not chase away?

thanks
 

pappi choulo

Senior Member
hey kingfisher, i live in the cape and have never had an opportunity to fish up north in SA, so what works for me might not necessarily work up in GP, but my personal opinion on this would be that the flavour itself is not as important as how much flavour you're putting out. if you are fishing high quality baits (like nash for example), provided you don't add any more flavour to the bait, you'll probably be just fine.

sure, there are dams where carp prefer certain flavours and weather can also play a role, but overall i think carp are generally quite opportunistic, so as long as you don't overdo the amount of flavour in your baits most flavours should work for you.

otherwise, when in doubt, keep it plain. ultimately correct bait presentation in the correct area is what makes 90% of the difference.

my 2c.
 

Spod

Senior Member
KG,flavours... keep them mild, too much and you going to chase them away, most of the boillie flavours available are fine just as they are, sometimes, we even use washed boillies, uhmm thats not with soap lol! but bait thats been in the dam/lake water a while to loose some flavour and colour.

As PC correctly said: "otherwise, when in doubt, keep it plain. ultimately correct bait presentation in the correct area is what makes 90% of the difference."

Carp are curious creatures and will take just about anything out of curiosity.....they just suck and blow the food, taking what they want and blowing out what they dont want. The main thing is getting it in their mouths, once there you got them where you want them, kinda feeding out of your hands. A particle ground feed will get the fish on quicker, even with broken and whole boillies in the mix, and this is where you can manipulate/change the carps preferance...to the flavour boillie you fishing over the ground feed. Maybe not immediately but through time, they will start biting on your boillie hook baits. The trick here is getting the freebies/hook bait ratio right. You dont want to feed too much or they fill up and move on, too little and they become preoccupied with the ground feed and not the boillies. So a lot of experimenting can be done with boillies.
 

Kingfisher-guy

Senior Member
Haha there just are NO limits to specimen fishing!!!

Thanks guys. I think to master specimen angling takes lots and lots of hours at the waters. Im glad I got introduced to it so early and by the time im 40yrs old Il maybe have the knowledge and experience you guys have.

But my goal for 2009 is to get my pb into double figures! Hopefully with your help and a whole lot of patience I will achieve it.
 

pappi choulo

Senior Member
the golden rule in fishing (as in most things i guess) is to never give up! keep going and keep educating yourself (sealine was a great start!) and you will get there a lot faster than you think!

tight lines KF, don't forget to post pics of that double figure you're gonna catch soon!
 

KUSAF

Senior Member
I think CF can shed some light on the flavouring part. He's probably got the best resume here and his own boilie range (specimen frontier).

Im not a big fan of strong flavours. But then again how strong will that flavour be after 6hours in the water?
 

Kingfisher-guy

Senior Member
Haha Im almost getting my pod + alarms + fireline!!

Cant wait...Im sure that will assist me in my quest for the 22 pounder. But i put brand new suffix duo core line on my reels and im gonna feel bad having to wind it all off...O well! At least Il have braid now!!
 

J

Senior Member
Pardon my possible ignorance but doesnt fireline float? I bought some of the first fireline that came out and it floated? If thats the case then you would be better off with something like the Relix sinking braid or Fox sinking braid. You will want your line to get under the water as soon as possible for many reasons.
 
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