[font="comic sans ms"]Ek woon nou 3 jaar langs die

[Frikkie Gariep]

Ek woon nou 3 jaar langs die Gariepdam en is langs of op die water ongeveer 80% van die tyd,wat vir my baie snaaks is is dat ek nog nie uitermatige groot karps gevang het nie. Ek vang patydae tot soveel as 100 kg karps dat is die grootstes so in die 5 tot 6 kg klas,As ek (sonder dat my neus moet lank word) 20 karps gevang het in die 3 jaar groter as 6 kg is dit baie,so ook die ander hengelaars in die omgewing weet ook nie van uitermatige groot karps nie,

Vir 'n dam wat 120 km lank en op sommige plekke 25 km breed is en op  plekke 60 meter diep is,is dit nie vreemd vir julle mense ook dat daar nie groot karps uitkom nie?Wat dink julle is die rede hiervoor,is dit hier? is die visbevolking te groot of wat kan die probleem wees?Die dam is tog immers in 1968 klaar gebou so dis al 'n ou dam Julle opinie sal waardeer word

 

[Skuimkop]

Frikkie volgens my moét daar groot Karps in wees. Ek meen hoe kan daar nie wees nie? Selfs al is die populasie druk baie groot daar moet daar mos groot Karps wees. Ek weet jy spandeer seker 3 - 5 dae per week (en party keer even meer) by die dam en glo jou as jy sê jy't nog nie groot karps gevang nie so ek kan dit nie verduidelik nie.

Dit sal interesant wees om te hoor wat die ander ouens te sê het. Enigma kan ons dalk hier help want as ek dit reg het ken hy redelik Gariep en die Oranje.

 

[christodeb]

Groot karpe is baie slimmer as wat ons dink. Ek glo dat 'n week of wat se spesie hengel beslis die groot vis sal lewer. Dit gaan egter nie maklik wees nie, want jy sal met 'n bootjie en 'n fishfinder moet rondry om die area te verken en te bepaal waar om jou aas neer te sit.

 

[Frikkie Gariep]

Christo hier het ek al spesie toegepas tot vervelens toe Het die wereld om Oviston al voos gesoek en goeie voerplek gemaak op baie goeie plekke,maar sonder sukses Baie dankie vir jou input ,sien jy's van Bloem,hengel jy baie by Gariep?

 

[Pan]

Frikkie. Hoor wat Christo sê. Indien jy werklik 'n spesie hengelaar wil wees. Ek praat nou nie net van die gebruik van 'n hairrig en boilies nie, gaan jy hulle kry. Hulle IS daar. Onthou dat jy nie in 'n swembad groote dammetjie wil hengel nie, maar wel helse groot water...
Gaan kyk gerus na die "sticky" post's by spesie hengel. Jy sal amper alles daar leer oor spesie hengel.
Ek is nie naar nie, maar spesie hengel is iets wat jy in jou verstand moet verstaan...
Dit gaan nie oor die grootste vis nie...

 

[Frikkie Gariep]

Pan ,baie dankie vir jou insette word waardeer!

 

[christodeb]

Hi frikkie ons hengel van tyd tot tyd 'n liga by Gariep. Ek ken die dam so bietjie uit 'n oewer oogpunt, maar ek het nog nooit die spesie ding daar gedoen nie. Ek glo wel dat dit een van die damme in die land is wat oor die potensiaal beskik om 'n SA rekord op te lewer.

Vriende van my hengel gereeld onder die damwal in die rivier, en hul vang 10kg+ visse sonder te veel fancy tricks. Meeste vis word sommer met 'n groot hoek en 'n klomp pitte op die hoek gevang.

As ek Gariep uit 'n spesie oogpunt moet benader, sal ek my voer en aas baseer op tigers en mielies met hemp saam met die voer. Boilies sal 'n last resort wees aangesien dit 'n rukkie gaan vat om die vis aan dit gewoond te maak.

Ons moet dalk eendag 'n trip reel en daar in jou agterplaas gaan hengel.

 

[Enigma]

Hi Christo

i think that is a bit o an uninformed comment on the boilies. South Africans don't fish a lot of boilies because it's either a lot of work or expensive to buy boilies.

We fished a virgin dam in terms of boilies ie. Arabie in a Carp league and after only 12 hours of feeding all we were catching on was boilies.

Approaching a large body of water looking or big fish would require large volumes of boilies fed constantly and they will eat.

We fed a spot at 250m of Vaal Marina with Strawberry boilies and were using a jetski to drop the baits. By day 2 we dropped 6 baits on the spot with a jetski and before you got back to the bank you were on with anything from 3-5 fish and by the time the first was landed all 6 rods had a fish on - all in the 6-9kg class with 2 x 11kg fish.

One of our problems with our large bodies of water is that the carp have very little competition in terms of food and as a result of there being very few predators (relative to the size of the Carp population) the Carp population always explodes

This is why it's almost impossible to catch a 15kg+ fish in Bloemhof but they are caught from time to time by anglers in the right place at the right time ie the BFA team prior to the 2005 inaugural Carp Sa's where they caught 3 between 16-19kg and Donovan seeber with a 21kg fish from Bloemhof

Gariep for sure has monster fish and a dedicated 1 week feeding campaign and specimen approach in a well identified place with channels leading in and out (Christo's idea of a boat with a echo sounder)

 

[Skuimkop]

"Gariep for sure has monster fish and a dedicated 1 week feeding campaign and specimen approach in a well identified place with channels leading in and out (Christo's idea of a boat with a echo sounder)"

 Frikkie dit SKREE vir my Brookspruit!!!

Enigma I know it will be hell difficult to judge by foto's but I just want your opinion on this Brookspruit (part of Gariepdam itself) I'm talking about to target the monster carp with the specimen way and doing the propper feeding compain you talked about in your previous post. I personally think this is the ideal spot to do it at Gariep. Your insets will be appreciated and/or anyone elses for that matter.

 

[Skuimkop]

Foto 1: The yellow arrow on the left points to the bridge (see other foto). The yellow arrow 'A' is the inflow/outflow to Gariep. It channels about 1.5 - 2 km through cliffs on both sides untill it flows into Gariep. (Frikkie help as ek verkeerd is). The blue arrow points to were we sat. There is alot of reeds on the right. The red circle 'A' is also cliffs.

 

[Skuimkop]

Foto 2: The next couple of foto's was taken from where we sat. The green arrow points to where there are alot of reeds. The yellow arrow points to the bridge and where a river flows from. About 2.5 kg upstream from the bridge the river flows over rocks so the fish can't move futher upstream. The red circle 'A' is the same cliff as seen in foto 1.

 

[Enigma]

Any idea on the depth of the water there?

We find that the bigger carp hold in channels of between 9-14m deep as the water is a constant 8 degrees in many dams at that depth.

Nothing less than 6m in our wild dams but 8-11m will be preferred

 

[Skuimkop]

Foto 3: This koppie was straight ahead of us. I would say the distance over the water was about 250 meter. Red circle 'A' is still the same cliffs as in foto 1. The yellow arrow on the right is where the canyon is which flows out to Gariep.

 

[Skuimkop]

Foto 4: The yellow arrow points in the direction in which the canyon goes that flows into Gariep. The red circle is more cliffs that goes straight down into the water. The purple arrow points to a small shallow 'baai' (see next foto)

 

[Skuimkop]

Foto 5: This is the small 'baai' on the right of our spot. The purple arrow points to the water infront of the koppie as seen in foto 3. There is no in or outflows at this 'baai'.

Ps: The keepnet was for our barbel bait. lol

 

[Skuimkop]

This was the biggest fish that came out infront of the koppie on papgooi. Frikkie's Carp of 5.15 kg.

 

[Skuimkop]

This was the average size Carp that came out that day. Carp 4.05 kg. What immediately caught my attention was the huge size of these Carp's mouths.

 

[Skuimkop]

Sorry, your to fast. hahaha. Frikkie might be able to tell you becuase if I remembered correctly he was there with his boat and fishfinder.

 

[Frikkie Gariep]

Reg ten die kranse is dit so wat 10 tot 15 meter op plekke Hoer op nader na die dam toe is daar plekke van soveel as 30 meter  Oor die algemeen kom daar op Broek spruit groter karps uit as op ander plekke in die dam

 

[Enigma]

I would look for a spot where it levels out at around 11m where a table can be set for big fish by a constant feeding for them.

Sounds like just the spot for a monster.

Would start feeding with cooked kaboem to get interest in the spot (looking in Sept onward and probably 200kg per week for first 3 weeks) adding 50-100kg of 20mm boilies per week from week 2 then fish only boilies from week 4 and you'll land very big fish.

In Morocco they prepare their area for fishing pre-season by pre-feeding a ton of kaboem - pre-soaked for 48 hours and uncooked.

Followed by 300kg boilies and only then does fishing start