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Luds

New member
Hi

Ive asked myself the same question . I have seen the carp spawn at homestead , there where plenty big carp right up againts the bank. I have tried for carp there on numerous occasions but always blanked. There has to be a trick to the dam. The same for Barbel , early in the mornings they can be seen on the surface across the bank but I have only caught a few small ones with earth worms.
 

Gertus

Senior Member
Gentlemen..

I grew up in Ben on 1 and have only once caught a carp of 3 kg in late autim rouund 1991.. i have heard of the odd one coming out over the years and like you have attempted to catch the ones you see jumping..

the trick is the trace as the bottom is very silty and carp may take looooong to get to your bait..

I caught mine on tcp almond mielies.. as most of the benoni dams love strong flavours..

you can always "condition" the fish like our specimen friends do but then again.. I dont have the time and the money for that..

Id rather go to bronkies for theday then waste time at homestead..

Fanks

G
 

Gertus

Senior Member
this is what i do at the dam next to homestead..  and i see time is right for another visit... soon...
 

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richie fin

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hey thanks for the imput guys and love the catfish gertus.
is this the barbel you are refering as caught on a 6wt fly rod
 

Gertus

Senior Member
Nope this one was a tad bigger than the fli rod  one...

This one was caught on a tiger special 5ft rod while bouncing a plastic worm off the bottom.....The achivement for me was the fact that it was caught on 7lb line..

 

The one below is the one i caught on the fli rod near parys..

 
 

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Gertus

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That said... I never skrukked so beeg in my life ... nothing beats the surprize when you think a 1 or two kilo bass will take a plastic worm ..only to have the worm mauled by a 5kg barbel... and line stripped by a steam train...
 

spinnekop2

Senior Member
Hey Guys,

You might have a laugh but go ahead and laugh.......this really works.

Make yourself a sliding rietvlei trace of wich the main line is about 900mm long and your kook line is about 400mm on top and the bottom. Use a m00 mushroom sinker and 9555 no 8 hook. Your hook line should be no thicker that 0.27.

Now that we have the very strange trace out of the way, the spot is straight down kei road on the left of the reed patch..........distance is no more than 60meters if you can cast that long trace that far(ha ah ha ha ) and the bait is.......................my secret!

Take a can of sweet corn and sort the mielies (small flake and 1/4 pieces) from the rest of the can and lay them into BANANA  and the half into MOIERS ALMOND .

When you are baiting up take a big yellow comp floatie and put the hook through so that you can pull up on the hook line.

(2). Take the mielie skins and put about 10-15 on the shank of the hook and put a small pip on the bend of the hook.

(3). Take the floatie that is now on the line and pull it slowly down on to the shaft of the hook.

(4). Do this with both hooks........ one rod BANANA and the other ALMOND.

(5). Your mielie bomb is SUPERCAST dry feed and is to be made so that it is very spoungy and soft.

(6)Take your top hook and stick it into the bomb and take the other hook and just hook the point of the hook into the mielie bomb so that your long hook lines don't get caught up on each other

I can almost promise you a fish and this simple method i have used since about 8 years ago when i was fishing SA'S at Roodekoppies wich has the same bottom as homestead and all the other dams in Benoni and Murrypark.

THIS DOES WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Tight lines.
 

Gertus

Senior Member
I totally agree...

The lesson here is presentation as the conventional "SHORT" trace will not work... as the bait lies in the green slime at the bottom.. and the feesh will take sooo much longer...

Also ... Almond and tcp ALWAYS works in "mature" waters...

 
 

MadCarper

Sealiner
good tips here. Allthough there are areas in this dam where the bottom is actually gravelly and some areas that is sandy. Been on the dam with a fishfinder... We baited up a spot and unfortunately for us, someone was watching and the next morning we arrived to see them run down to our spot so they could poach of our hard work. Pathetic isnt it! Unfortunately they also caught a 9kg grass carp off our spot and proceeded to destroy the poor fish by forcing it into a keepnet... &%#*$#!!!!!!

A number of fish over 14kg have come out there over the years, and I believe the inflow area is quite productive sometimes (but that is a silty area).
It just takes a fresh approach and stepping out of the box abit to figure the dam out... but "pos en los" wont work so well... ;)

Shouldnt be much problems getting barbel there, they're all over! Get some hempseed oil or anchovie oil and mix it into your mieliebomb, put some fishmeal in your "degie" and wrap it around the hook...!

 
 

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richie fin

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jys! and just when i was about to think that all hope was lost and i would be wasting my time to go back there. then out of the blue,,,, all this advice
 

Unlimited

Sealiner
i love seeing this... everyone going on about catching carp and me... well i love catching cats and the good thing is that ill catch alot of it because most people are catching carps and nobody are taking cats out...
 

richie fin

New member
i love catching all tipes of fish because different fish give different play, however i must agree with unlimited about the catfish.and as far as spinnekop2 is concerned. i will be testing his rig out today. (happy angeling):fishn:fishn:fishn
 

richie fin

New member
i tried that rig of spinnekop2 at homestead yesterday and to no avial.
unfornatly the rain apeared and we had to pack up and leave with nothing, but will try it one last time.:X
 

Gertus

Senior Member
i was wandering who wil go and try out that rig...

 

I was at the next dam this afternoon ... i could see soo many flatheads turn but the usual tactics did not pay off.. will go next week to see if i can get me a cat or two .. ..
 

Luds

New member
Richie fin I hear you I feel the same. the fish are there they need to be caught, but it seems as if this dam has most people stumped. By hook or by crook I am going to work this dam out even if I have to use a hand grenade hehehehe. I will let you know if i get anything there.
 

spinnekop2

Senior Member
I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT NIGHT TIME WILL BE BEST.HA HA HA HA HA HA HA GO POUCHING HAS ALLWAYS GIVEN ME THE BEST RESULTS. I SAY THIS BECAUSE 4 YEARS AGO IF YOU WANTED TO FISH HOMESTEAD LAKE THE ONLY WAY YOU COULD IS BY DOING IT ON THE SLY!
 

Gertus

Senior Member
LOL

Ps. Nite time fishing there is banned. and it is catch and release fishing so granades are out of the question....
 
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