Bass Boat recovered

lemon

Senior Member
Howzit Guys,

We recovered this Bass boat from Albert Falls, I can safely say that if it was not for buoyancy it would be lying flat on the ground!!!
 

Fanie

Sealiner
lemon wrote:
Howzit Guys,

We recovered this Bass boat from Albert Falls, I can safely say that if it was not for buoyancy it would be lying flat on the ground!!!

Eh Lemon !

You are spot on mate, I'm so glad you finally figured it out. 

Not only that boat from Albert falls, but ALL boats stay afloat because of buoyancy !
 

lemon

Senior Member
Ok clever dicks!! My Pc crashed before I could add the pic! so here it is! My point is that every one complains about putting in buoyancy now you can see why!!!
 

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Fanie

Sealiner
Ok clever dicks!! My Pc crashed before I could

Some people get punnished immediately ! 

That picture is showing the flotation on that boat was not done correctly.  The boat is supposed to float in it's horizontal position and offer flotation and safety for the crew.

If the same happened in crock infested waters I want to see you swim to shore.

It almost looks as if that boat sunk and the motor is sitting in the mud, and not actually floating.  If this is the case then the boat will sink in deeper water.
 

lemon

Senior Member
The boat was touching the bottom, but if it was not for the foam in the hull and in the front of the boat it would have filled with water and lay flat on the ground! For cat R boats only having to have 30% buoyancy the boat wont float horizontal it will always have the motor end down!

The wind was blowing hard and the skipper was fishing off the front of the boat without realising the waves coming over the back where filing the two rear hatches, this happened very fast so when he went to switch the pumps on he lost his balance and fell off the boat!

We can all say what if, should have, could have! The fact is I was there and the buoyancy in this boat is what kept it semi afloat!

 

 
 

Fanie

Sealiner
Lemon, it has been calculated before and presented to samsa that 30% buoyancy is not enough to keep a vessel afloat - and the bigger the motor the worse it gets ! In deep enough water the boat wil almost always sink to the bottom.

That the guy was working the shallows is what kept the boat from sinking completely !

If it was possible to do, and the boat owner went to a bit of trougble to calculate the foam / weight around the transom area, the outcome could have been different.

Lets say the whole boat kept afloat, and the motor was kept above the water, he would have experienced a lot less damage to the motor even though the whole hull got flooded.

He may still have limped to the launch and save the resque operation. In almost all cases the foam installed would have cost a lot less then the damages, but as was said before, the guys would prefer to spend R2500 on a reel and only R50 to keep the rig afloat.  Doesn't make sense !

Thanks for sharing - I'm sure there's a slim chance someone will go to a bit more trouble.

 

 
 

dugongboy

Sealiner
Fanie wrote:
Lemon, it has been calculated before and presented to samsa that 30% buoyancy is not enough to keep a vessel afloat - and the bigger the motor the worse it gets ! In deep enough water the boat wil almost always sink to the bottom.

That the guy was working the shallows is what kept the boat from sinking completely !

If it was possible to do, and the boat owner went to a bit of trougble to calculate the foam / weight around the transom area, the outcome could have been different.

Lets say the whole boat kept afloat, and the motor was kept above the water, he would have experienced a lot less damage to the motor even though the whole hull got flooded.

He may still have limped to the launch and save the resque operation. In almost all cases the foam installed would have cost a lot less then the damages, but as was said before, the guys would prefer to spend R2500 on a reel and only R50 to keep the rig afloat.  Doesn't make sense !

Thanks for sharing - I'm sure there's a slim chance someone will go to a bit more trouble.

 

 
How so??
 

Fanie

Sealiner
dugongboy wrote:
Fanie wrote:
Lemon, it has been calculated before and presented to samsa that 30% buoyancy is not enough to keep a vessel afloat - and the bigger the motor the worse it gets ! In deep enough water the boat wil almost always sink to the bottom.

That the guy was working the shallows is what kept the boat from sinking completely !

If it was possible to do, and the boat owner went to a bit of trougble to calculate the foam / weight around the transom area, the outcome could have been different.

Lets say the whole boat kept afloat, and the motor was kept above the water, he would have experienced a lot less damage to the motor even though the whole hull got flooded.

He may still have limped to the launch and save the resque operation. In almost all cases the foam installed would have cost a lot less then the damages, but as was said before, the guys would prefer to spend R2500 on a reel and only R50 to keep the rig afloat.  Doesn't make sense !

Thanks for sharing - I'm sure there's a slim chance someone will go to a bit more trouble.

 

 
How so??

Nor sure what you're asking.  A submerged motor needs to be treated while one that doesn't get submerged remains clean.  If the engine cover comes off during the rescue and mud gets into the engine and electronics apart from physical breakage it also becomes a whole new story.

There's an area where they chopped a whole lot of trees in Albert Falls, leaving the tree stumps - if it happened there what do you think can happen.

The engine cover is supposed to form a dome over the engine to keep water out.  It's not foolproof but works ok for the most part, at least make the motor splash proof.
 

Fanie

Sealiner
Yes, but then it's just water, the motor isn't sitting in the mud.

Also if some more bad weather then there's a good chance the swells will move the boat. Keep in mind a boat is heavy and a motor is not designed to carry that kind of weight.

The idea of floatation is to keep the boat afloat in a horizontal position so the crew can still use it to sit on. On crocky waters like Jozini you don't want to swim.
 

Fanie

Sealiner
I wonder if someone could give us some figures as to what it cost to get that boat recovered and fixed up.

If the floatation was so the boat kept afloat horizontally, the guy could have limped to the launch and put the boat on the trailer and drain the water. Little problems.

I always say you have to set your boat up so it is functional and safe and will work for you - irrespective of what the lawfull requirements are. The law cannot think and the law cannot compensate for every single option or need - so do not let the law think for you !

The last thing you do after you cmpleted your boat is look at the legal requirements. 99.999% of the time, after you have properly outfitted your boat it will be lagal in any case.
 

Fanie

Sealiner
There you go ! Stands to reason one should spend a few bucks and (over)do it properly. Many guys cannot afford to pay for those damages - and imagine it's still on hire purchase.

Even if you have insurance, imo it's still neglegence on the owner/skipper's side since it's his responsibility - and if it gets investigated the insurance have a case and they may not want to fix your damages !

Now if you are harregat you can probably take samsa on because they only required 30% flotation.... see where all this crap is going to now ?

Just do it right the first time !

Thanks Lemon.
 
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