As some of you may already know, I'm building a fi

tauruck

Sealiner
As some of you may already know, I'm building a fishing ski for production. This design is nothing like any of the other makes already out there. This is a new take on the original paddle powered fishing platform. My design background is not in watercraft although I have done and fitted some serious mods to jetskis more for racing than anything else. My idea is to produce a limited number of examples every month at an affordable price. The only input I'll ever get on what's right or wrong at this stage comes from all of you. I want to know what you want from a fishing ski?. Cover all the aspects from loading the craft, comfort, storage to stability and anything else that comes to mind. You don't have to knock or praise your current choice. This is not what this is about. If I can build a ski that satisfies a select few guys I'll consider it Mission Accomplished. I have no intention of becoming a a huge retailer with branches in every major shopping centre. This is more a custom application that will retain the highest build quality and keep my hands busy because work is my passion.
 

BigMatt

Sealiner
Hey Mikey

I want a ski that

~bears a load (me and equipent)
~Stable
~Strong
~Well thought out storage(plano style boxes etc)
~Facility for fish finder mount
~Place for secure, dry battery storage
~Atleast 3 rod holders, 2 trolling, one batiting up etc.
~Comfortable seating position
~Rod hatch at least 6foot
~Place for anchor storage, like a small recess with clip..
~Paddle holder for when fishing
~An inspection port into the hull
~30%+ bouyancy
~Back rest would be nice but those can be aftermarket etc.
~Place for the gaff to be on deck within reach
~eyelets on deck for rod leashes
~cutting/bait board on deck, be it on the hatch lid or wherever design allows.
~Place for tranducer cable to be able to run into the rear
~Or a section where transducer can be siliconed in place within the hull, directly under the seated position.
~rod holder directly in the middle behind the seated position for a third trolling rod.
~A flush mounted small storage box in the hatch lid. only about 5 cm deep and however wide, for small lures or dropshot jigs, bait knife whatever. I have a section of velcro on my hatch lid, with a small plano tackle box with all the dividers removed with a section of velcro on the bottom. that way i can have a small place to put the jigs whatever im using at the moment in the little box, so im not having to constantly open the hatch lid and dig around.



another idea iv always liked is a heb type cooler box mounted flush into the deck and glassed in and sealed behind you with batten down type lid. only like a 5-6 litre size one for bait. that way you can keep the hatch infront of you clear of a bait bag/cooler etc. you just reach back and get out whatever you need, be it sards or a coke. just big enough for a six pack or a box of sards.

I suppose i want a small skiboat that uses no fuel!
 

cadex

New member
I've just bought a ski so I'm still trying to get used to the seating, rod placing, hatch opening etc.. The first thing I noticed is that opening and closing the hatch is quite difficult while seated on the ski. ( The lid is too far forward to reach whilst in the normal seated position). Is there a reason for the hatch opening forward? I'm thinking of changing mine to open to the side (left).
 

tauruck

Sealiner
BigMatt wrote:
Hey Mikey

I want a ski that

~bears a load (me and equipent)
~Stable
~Strong
~Well thought out storage(plano style boxes etc)
~Facility for fish finder mount
~Place for secure, dry battery storage
~Atleast 3 rod holders, 2 trolling, one batiting up etc.
~Comfortable seating position
~Rod hatch at least 6foot
~Place for anchor storage, like a small recess with clip..
~Paddle holder for when fishing
~An inspection port into the hull
~30%+ bouyancy
~Back rest would be nice but those can be aftermarket etc.
~Place for the gaff to be on deck within reach
~eyelets on deck for rod leashes
~cutting/bait board on deck, be it on the hatch lid or wherever design allows.
~Place for tranducer cable to be able to run into the rear
~Or a section where transducer can be siliconed in place within the hull, directly under the seated position.
~rod holder directly in the middle behind the seated position for a third trolling rod.
~A flush mounted small storage box in the hatch lid. only about 5 cm deep and however wide, for small lures or dropshot jigs, bait knife whatever. I have a section of velcro on my hatch lid, with a small plano tackle box with all the dividers removed with a section of velcro on the bottom. that way i can have a small place to put the jigs whatever im using at the moment in the little box, so im not having to constantly open the hatch lid and dig around.



another idea iv always liked is a heb type cooler box mounted flush into the deck and glassed in and sealed behind you with batten down type lid. only like a 5-6 litre size one for bait. that way you can keep the hatch infront of you clear of a bait bag/cooler etc. you just reach back and get out whatever you need, be it sards or a coke. just big enough for a six pack or a box of sards.

I suppose i want a small skiboat that uses no fuel!
Would you have a problem with a two man version of the above with a gland running from the hull (purpose built mounting area for transducer)  to the finder that sits in a recess on the hinged hatch lid. The only thing I haven't made provision for is the heb cooler. Maybe because I don't drink beer!!! I've got the rest covered. No jokes.
 

tauruck

Sealiner
RearHatchAprimeredrr.jpg
This is the rear hatch. Hinged (2) at front, Hasp & Staple locking system at rear (See the oval recess in the foreground) which fits nicely. On top you can see the recess made for the Lowrance/Cuda 300. The flat section is for the cutting board. Size of hatch opening is 680 x 240mm. Front hatch is slightly smaller due to it tapering toward the front but is 570 x 240 at the rear, front is 150mm. If seated neither paddler will have to stretch to reach the cutting boards. A buddy that trains chopper pilots flew over my place last week and saw the project outside where I was spraying. He phoned to tell me that if the cops saw the ski from the air they would think I was building a Maverick missile and investigate for sure. LMFAO.
 

BigMatt

Sealiner
tauruck wrote:
BigMatt wrote:
Hey Mikey

I want a ski that

~bears a load (me and equipent)
~Stable
~Strong
~Well thought out storage(plano style boxes etc)
~Facility for fish finder mount
~Place for secure, dry battery storage
~Atleast 3 rod holders, 2 trolling, one batiting up etc.
~Comfortable seating position
~Rod hatch at least 6foot
~Place for anchor storage, like a small recess with clip..
~Paddle holder for when fishing
~An inspection port into the hull
~30%+ bouyancy
~Back rest would be nice but those can be aftermarket etc.
~Place for the gaff to be on deck within reach
~eyelets on deck for rod leashes
~cutting/bait board on deck, be it on the hatch lid or wherever design allows.
~Place for tranducer cable to be able to run into the rear
~Or a section where transducer can be siliconed in place within the hull, directly under the seated position.
~rod holder directly in the middle behind the seated position for a third trolling rod.
~A flush mounted small storage box in the hatch lid. only about 5 cm deep and however wide, for small lures or dropshot jigs, bait knife whatever. I have a section of velcro on my hatch lid, with a small plano tackle box with all the dividers removed with a section of velcro on the bottom. that way i can have a small place to put the jigs whatever im using at the moment in the little box, so im not having to constantly open the hatch lid and dig around.



another idea iv always liked is a heb type cooler box mounted flush into the deck and glassed in and sealed behind you with batten down type lid. only like a 5-6 litre size one for bait. that way you can keep the hatch infront of you clear of a bait bag/cooler etc. you just reach back and get out whatever you need, be it sards or a coke. just big enough for a six pack or a box of sards.

I suppose i want a small skiboat that uses no fuel!
Would you have a problem with a two man version of the above with a gland running from the hull (purpose built mounting area for transducer)  to the finder that sits in a recess on the hinged hatch lid. The only thing I haven't made provision for is the heb coolerHA HA, im only dreaming.... Maybe because I don't drink beer!!! I've got the rest covered. No jokes.

compression gland? like this one?
SkiMods6.jpg


whens the patent coming!?? i wanna see this thing in all its glory! and the colour also looks the D's B's...

sounds like its gonna be a real eye catcher!
 

tauruck

Sealiner
The colour you saw is grey spray filler. The finished product will be white with some bright accents in dayglo type colours, lime green, hot orange etc. Not what you'd expect from a custom bike builder though. I wish I was already at the stage where I had to choose colours but that's wayoff right now. The gland I'm going to use is 12mm ID. but will be similar to yours.
 

getafix

Member
What I want in my ski is ............

............. lots of t fish. :fswim

I am still trying to get used to using what I have. The mods will come later.
 

tauruck

Sealiner
Fish on back order right now. Experience produces fish but you knew that. Boet, that's why we are all here, it's the Fish.
 

getafix

Member
The few times that I have been out I have thoroughly enjoyed. Not to many fish, but a great time.
At this stage, I patrol this forum everyday picking up on who does what and how to do things. Experience is increasing.
 

tauruck

Sealiner
Ziyz wrote:
Tauruck, I take my hat off to you, man. I can't wait to see the finished product.
I can't wait either. Bigger job than I thought. If it's the last thing I do I'll finish this ski. I think maybe by spring and after MichaelK tests it I can start producing. Thanks for the kind words. You inspire me.
 

woerman

Senior Member
Hi Tauruck

You project looks great!!!

The only thing I would like to see is a ski that can carry 145kg person and kit.

How about some pics of the ski??

I was holding out for the Zuluski but looks like I should rather hang on for your creation.

Good luck
 

Danie Burger

Senior Member
Hi Tauruck

I think you have got the right recipe here.
I might even trade my Stealth in for one of your models in the future.

Something that I would suggest (don't know if it was mentioned before)is the following:

1.) Let the Fish-hatch open to the side and not flap open like the normal ones
2.) The hebcooler spot is a nice idea, but I reckon it does not take that much space and I have a collapsible cooler (bought from Macro) which takes 2kg pillies and is still nice and small.

Remember guys it's still a Fishing-Ski and space is very limited, the more extras, the heavier it will be.

And I am sure that if Tauruk makes them to order you will be able to ask for certain "extras" according to your fishing style.

Tauruk I know this is still in the baby phase, the real tuning will start after the demo has been tested, but roughly how much will one of your babies set a person back? I need to know as I think I must start saving so long :)

PS - I think the fishfinder battery box is a definite winner.
 

blakes

New member
Danie Burger wrote:
1.) Let the Fish-hatch open to the side and not flap open like the normal ones
This has saved me from having a very wet boat when a wave caught me on the bow, was on anchor, and the water forced the hatch closed so might be that way for a reason even though it can be in the way sometimes.

My wish list for a ski is that it is as light as possible, and therefore easy to handle on land, and must be able to cut through the water. Most probably a combination between a stealth supalite and kaskazi dorado.

Another feature that works quite well is to have a rod holder between your legs, which makes baiting a lot easier.

Good luck with your project and hope to see the final ski soon.
 

Ziyz

Senior Member
blakes wrote:
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Another feature that works quite well is to have a rod holder between your legs, which makes baiting a lot easier.
Not a good idea. That would make it difficult to get a big fish into the hatch. As it is, it can be difficult getting big dagas in.:wfish
 

getafix

Member
Another feature that works quite well is to have a rod holder between your legs, which makes baiting a lot easier.

I knew there was something that I wanted. That is a big over sight in my eyes with my ski. Baiting up is a problem.
 

tauruck

Sealiner
woerman wrote:
Hi Tauruck

You project looks great!!!

The only thing I would like to see is a ski that can carry 145kg person and kit.

How about some pics of the ski??

I was holding out for the Zuluski but looks like I should rather hang on for your creation.

Good luck
Thanks man, One thing I can say is that this baby will carry a load. Finishing it for production is the problem. I've taken on some biiig projects in the past like building a Porsche body in Carbon for a rich speed freak. That was easy compared to this. With this ski, the idea for the design was on my mind for a while and has turned out exactly as I imagined it. The problem comes from what I made the pattern/plug from. This is a wood rib type skeleton covered with masonite board. The board will only bend one way (2D) and it is stretched over the ribs which are say 500mm apart. There they are bonded with cold glue with the aid of screws with nice size washers. Every panel looks great until you run a straight edge over it.The masonite sags between the ribs so you have to fill the low spots. Automotive body filler works great. Now you come to the areas that the board can't conform to so I use Polystyrene and bond the blocks to the ribs. After that the polystyrene needs to be shaped. No problem. Use the air tool (Palm Sander), easy work and you try to get the left looking as close to the right as possible. Now you have to cover the polystyrene with fibreglass (cloth) and use epoxy resin because Polyester resin and body filler chow the styrene. You then have to use body filler to correct the low spots. Now this filler comes in two grades, expensive and very hard or F$#@%ng expensive and soft so I try to use the hard to build up as close to perfect as possible and use the very expensive stuff on the surface. What you end up with is  four or five different surfaces of varying hardness. Masonite, wood, epoxy/glass, hard filler and soft.  To sand this down is a huge problem. You get waves that just won't lay down. Where the epoxy/polystyrene sections are you work them and due to the spongy nature of this the area dents in ever so slightly when the sander passes over and then pops back up. You think you've got it just right and put on three coats of polyester spray filler that normally cuts down well with water paper. No Way, the stuff underneath walks around. I resorted to the American solution my fellow bike builders use. Cover the whole damn thing with a thick layer of very expensive body filler and sand that to shape. The difference between them and me is that they sell all that filler as part of the bike but I dump the pattern the day after it comes out of the moulds. I'm now busy painting the pattern black so that when the sanding is complete all the low spots will show up as black indentations which are easily filled, respayed and sanded again. When I'm happy with the surface I give it a final coat of Gloss black and that should be as near as perfect I'll get it. A day in the life of a ski builder and my rant for the month. To use unskilled labour would complicate this project even more and probably see me doing "Time". These are the hard yards and producing the moulds and final project will be a breeze. I'm hoping to get the first one wet in early September.
 
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