Why do Greenies or Bunny Huggers join an Angling Forum

[jb2]

FeedingFrenzy wrote:

tuna wrote:

its legal to keep any steembra or cob if its size and big
Its not for you to judge, i normally release fish above 15kg but sometimes i keep them to make sosaties or ingelegte vis
I pay my fishing license every year(close to R500), with extras like bait collecting and throw net ect and fuel to get there and bait, it ad up so if i want to use and not abuse my catch its my right

Blah blah blah.  It's your right.  Seriously.  I will personally come to George and laugh in your face when various species are placed on prohibited list.  It's your right pfffffffft.  What a bunch of short-sighted rubbish.  It's your right.  Geez sounds like the manifesto of a certain party.  It's our rights. Blah blah blah.  When people start to ignore the greater good and justify with "it's our right" then you going one way.  And let's just say it's not up.

Hi Feeding Frenzy

I think that you are being unfair.

Linefish resources are very conservatively managed in South Africa.

Some species are in decline but some are showing signs of recovery.

The allowance of kob by anglers works on the basis that the resource can not just withstand the catches by anglers but will also continue to recover.

We all go fishing for different reasons. I personally do like to take fish home but I also fish catch and release.

I release all the leeries that I catch but I kill all the snoek that I catch.

I get most of my snoek fishing enjoyment from the whole fishing process.

I mix and match my lead and skirt patters not make my ideal bokstang. I haul the fish out of the water on heavy handlines so that it is nice and firm.

I carefully vlek and salt some fish to make biltong. I hang the fish out every morning and take it in each night.

I like to watch the formation of a barely visible, light white fuzz on the surface of the outside of the snoek.

I pickle some snoek and I braai the rest.

So the catching of the snoek is only a small part of a long and enjoyabel process.

 

[Imfeni]

FeedingFrenzy wrote:

tuna wrote:

its legal to keep any steembra or cob if its size and big
Its not for you to judge, i normally release fish above 15kg but sometimes i keep them to make sosaties or ingelegte vis
I pay my fishing license every year(close to R500), with extras like bait collecting and throw net ect and fuel to get there and bait, it ad up so if i want to use and not abuse my catch its my right

Blah blah blah.  It's your right.  Seriously.  I will personally comer to George and laugh in your face when various species are placed on prohibited list.  It's your right pfffffffft.  What a bunch of short-sighted rubbish.  It's your right.  Geez sounds like the manifesto of a certain party.  It's our rights.

I think what Tuna is trying to say is


It is my Right to catch and keep my fish (I bought the license to fish this gives me the RIGHT to fish) I understand the context of it being my right BUT it’s common sense to release fish.



1. Are breeding stock (Big Cob and Steenbras)
2. Fish that I don’t need


And with this I agree, I don’t agree with the fact that I cannot keep my catch or I must release everything I catch and buy fish (Actually stupid because the more we buy the bigger the demand) or getting it forced down my throat



I recently posted a topic on this forum CATCH AND RELEASE VS CATCHING FOR THE PAN and reading through this post, and I must say, more than 85% of Anglers (Members of Sealine) are responsible, and are not out there to destroy and wipe out our resources.

 

[DD]

FeedingFrenzy wrote:

tuna wrote:

its legal to keep any steembra or cob if its size and big
Its not for you to judge, i normally release fish above 15kg but sometimes i keep them to make sosaties or ingelegte vis
I pay my fishing license every year(close to R500), with extras like bait collecting and throw net ect and fuel to get there and bait, it ad up so if i want to use and not abuse my catch its my right

Blah blah blah.  It's your right.  Seriously.  I will personally come to George and laugh in your face when various species are placed on prohibited list.  It's your right pfffffffft.  What a bunch of short-sighted rubbish.  It's your right.  Geez sounds like the manifesto of a certain party.  It's our rights. Blah blah blah.  When people start to ignore the greater good and justify with "it's our right" then you going one way.  And let's just say it's not up.

Wow. This is right here, is the Sealine rot that we speak of. This cancer that has prohibited the likes of Tuna etc from posting reports. You know, users who actually know how to catch big fish, not guys who release grunter and expect noddy badges. I mean seriously, how do sermons like this educate, entertain or contribute to this forum? How?

 

[trevour]

If the legal criteria for keeping a fish is incorrect, then the fight should be with those making the law. You can't have a go at someone driving 60km/hour if 60 is the speed limit. If you think 60 is too dangerous, then the limit is what you should spend your energy trying to change.

That's why we have laws - they define what is right and wrong, what we may or may not do, and as citizens we believe decisions for passing laws are made by informed people. So I would agree that people should be left alone if they keep a fish that they are aloud to keep, knowing that the time was taken by informed people with regards to any and every fish to set a legal size and bag limit.a

 

[rofflign]

Anyone hugged a fish lately, I forget what it feels like.

 

[Ray11]

trevour wrote:

If the legal criteria for keeping a fish is incorrect, then the fight should be with those making the law. You can't have a go at someone driving 60km/hour if 60 is the speed limit. If you think 60 is too dangerous, then the limit is what you should spend your energy trying to change.

That's why we have laws - they define what is right and wrong, what we may or may not do, and as citizens we believe decisions for passing laws are made by informed people. So I would agree that people should be left alone if they keep a fish that they are aloud to keep, knowing that the time was taken by informed people with regards to any and every fish to set a legal size and bag limit.a

Very well structured post. Agree 100%

 

[Def-e-nition]

Haakies wrote:

I have also had the privilege of fishing as part of research teams in MPA's. To see the difference of catch rates inside these areas compared with outside of them is nothing short of remarkable. This also goes for species such as cob and steenbras, species that we would not previously have thought to be resident or hugely territorial. The result is that I now support MPA's even if their presence is going to impact on my fishing in the short term.

I also do not fully agree with the argument of," if it is within the regulations - then it is all good."
If history is anything to go by, we as nation are not very good at managing our angling resource. Many regulations take years to change even though we know that these specific populations have been in trouble for many years and then when the regulation is changed, there is a blanket ban because proper policing is difficult. These bans are not what any of us as anglers want.

My point is that if we,as angling fraternity, demonstrate our own conservation efforts and mindset that many of these drastic measures may not be necessary. Yellowtail in Cape Town is a perfect example. The current regulations allow for 10 fish per person per day. We had a fantastic winter for tail at Dassen Island. There were many boats that fished 3 or 4 days a weeks a result catching their limit every day. This is within the regulations so we should have no problem with it but these regulations are for recreational anglers. I believe that fishing this many times a week now starts to ask the question, recreational or commercial? This behavior although within the limits is not in the spirit of conservation and could definitely not be considered, fishing for the future. I have no problem with guys keeping a few fish for a fry and to dish out to friends but the above behavior was poor and should it continue I am sure that we will see stricter regulations imposed on yellowtail and when it does happen you will hear the usual comments about how unfair it is. As daft as this may sound one does not have to look too far to find similar decisions. Look at Breede River, Red Steenbras, West Coast Rock Lobster, Dusky cob as examples of a few recent such decisions.

Fish populations are our resource and we as anglers should want to protect them as it is ultimately in our best interest to do so. This forum is a collective of anglers and we all want to be catching fish in the years to come.

Regards
Anton

 

On the button.

 

[thika]

FeedingFrenzy wrote:

tuna wrote:

its legal to keep any steembra or cob if its size and big
Its not for you to judge, i normally release fish above 15kg but sometimes i keep them to make sosaties or ingelegte vis
I pay my fishing license every year(close to R500), with extras like bait collecting and throw net ect and fuel to get there and bait, it ad up so if i want to use and not abuse my catch its my right

Blah blah blah.  It's your right.  Seriously.  I will personally come to George and laugh in your face when various species are placed on prohibited list.  It's your right pfffffffft.  What a bunch of short-sighted rubbish.  It's your right.  Geez sounds like the manifesto of a certain party.  It's our rights. Blah blah blah.  When people start to ignore the greater good and justify with "it's our right" then you going one way.  And let's just say it's not up.

It is exactly because of people like you and posts like this that Sealine members leave or stop posting on this forum

This thread is aimed squarely at people like you!

I note, after having quickly scanned your posts over the last few months, that this is the sort of thing you keep yourself busy with. In fact, you hardly ever contribute something meaningful.

To make matters worse, this is what you wrote on 19 June 2013:


"Ben for the record - I have become quite bored with Sealine and also the handling of issues - the Admin's are actually a PITA and impose their value system on the Users. Enough thanks"


And on the same day:

"Right you are! This is my last post on Sealine. Time to move on and up.

Adios."

(ID this Fish thread)


So the question begs, what are you doing back here?


I belong to a boat forum which us Cape guys frequent, and I tell you, you would not be welcome there


It is not your place to get personal with members who catch size and stick to quota as entitled to by the fishing regulations


I suggest to Admin that you get carded, and if you then still not fall in line be asked to leave...and then will no coming back again


This used to be such an amazing forum...I cannot tell you how gatvol I am of "members" like you!

Please enlighten us???

Admin "K"

 

[jb2]

trevour wrote:

If the legal criteria for keeping a fish is incorrect, then the fight should be with those making the law. You can't have a go at someone driving 60km/hour if 60 is the speed limit. If you think 60 is too dangerous, then the limit is what you should spend your energy trying to change.

That's why we have laws - they define what is right and wrong, what we may or may not do, and as citizens we believe decisions for passing laws are made by informed people. So I would agree that people should be left alone if they keep a fish that they are aloud to keep, knowing that the time was taken by informed people with regards to any and every fish to set a legal size and bag limit.a

Hi Trevour

That hits the nail on the head.

Our linefish management is very rigorous.

We have some good science. (The SA linefsih database is one of the biggest of its kind anywhere in the World. It might be hard to believe that we still have pockets of excellence but there you have it.)

We have a ban on driving on beaches. (I see this as a control on fishing effort since it restricts access to isolated and hard to reach places.

We have had a huge reduction in linefish effort since 2001.

I am worried about conservation that just becomes a guilt cult where we go on about how we are all raping Mother Earth.

 

[Blaasop]

jb2 wrote:

trevour wrote:

If the legal criteria for keeping a fish is incorrect, then the fight should be with those making the law. You can't have a go at someone driving 60km/hour if 60 is the speed limit. If you think 60 is too dangerous, then the limit is what you should spend your energy trying to change.

That's why we have laws - they define what is right and wrong, what we may or may not do, and as citizens we believe decisions for passing laws are made by informed people. So I would agree that people should be left alone if they keep a fish that they are aloud to keep, knowing that the time was taken by informed people with regards to any and every fish to set a legal size and bag limit.a

Hi Trevour

That hits the nail on the head.

Our linefish management is very rigorous.

We have some good science. (The SA linefsih database is one of the biggest of its kind anywhere in the World. It might be hard to believe that we still have pockets of excellence but there you have it.)

We have a ban on driving on beaches. (I see this as a control on fishing effort since it restricts access to isolated and hard to reach places.

We have had a huge reduction in linefish effort since 2001.

I am worried about conservation that just becomes a guilt cult where we go on about how we are all raping Mother Earth.

jb2, just out of interest sake, can you please elaborate on that point a bit?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Elf 786]

In some weird way i tend to agree with FishingFrenzy. WE as angler's make the "decision"/"choice" to take fish home albeit it's our "right" to.

I don’t ever think I’ve ever or know of an angler that said “I’m taking this fish home because by law I can and it’s my right”?  We make the conscious

Decision right there whether we releasing or filleting.

 

@ FishingFrenzy you have valid points of which we do not dispute however your emotional intellegince or rather lack thereof is what is leaving a bitter taste in your post's

 

[jb2]

Blaasop wrote:

jb2 wrote:

trevour wrote:

If the legal criteria for keeping a fish is incorrect, then the fight should be with those making the law. You can't have a go at someone driving 60km/hour if 60 is the speed limit. If you think 60 is too dangerous, then the limit is what you should spend your energy trying to change.

That's why we have laws - they define what is right and wrong, what we may or may not do, and as citizens we believe decisions for passing laws are made by informed people. So I would agree that people should be left alone if they keep a fish that they are aloud to keep, knowing that the time was taken by informed people with regards to any and every fish to set a legal size and bag limit.a

Hi Trevour

That hits the nail on the head.

Our linefish management is very rigorous.

We have some good science. (The SA linefsih database is one of the biggest of its kind anywhere in the World. It might be hard to believe that we still have pockets of excellence but there you have it.)

We have a ban on driving on beaches. (I see this as a control on fishing effort since it restricts access to isolated and hard to reach places.

We have had a huge reduction in linefish effort since 2001.

I am worried about conservation that just becomes a guilt cult where we go on about how we are all raping Mother Earth.

jb2, just out of interest sake, can you please elaborate on that point a bit?

Thanks in advance.

Hi Blaasop

In around 1985 the then Sea Fisheries started to look at the amount of effort that is brought to bear on linefish.

They stated to restrict the number of people fishing and boats were assigned an authorisation based on how they fish.

An "A" permit was given to dedicated commercial line boats.

A "T" permit was given to tuna pole boats.

A "B" permit was given to semi commercial boats that did not necessarily fish all the time.

In around 2001 a new allocation policy was implemented.

The big deck boats with freezers were no longer allowed to fish for linefish.

A linefish boat could not be longer than 10m.

There was also a huge reduction in the number of boats that were allowed to fish for linefish.

The number of boats was more than halved (I think must check the exact percentage.)

So not just the number but the type of boats in the sector changed radically.

Similarly there have been growing controls on other sectors catching linefish.

The trawl industry no longer had carte blanche to catch as much snoek as they wanted.

The trawler had to have an amount of hake to match the snoek. (This is an oversimplification but its workable.)

Having to catch some hake meant that the trawler could not leave their full hake quota to catch right at the end of the year but had to whittle it down during the course of the year. (again a bit of an oversimplification)

 

[Ray11]

Accualy learning quite a bit here.

 

[Imfeni]

thika wrote:

FeedingFrenzy wrote:

tuna wrote:

its legal to keep any steembra or cob if its size and big
Its not for you to judge, i normally release fish above 15kg but sometimes i keep them to make sosaties or ingelegte vis
I pay my fishing license every year(close to R500), with extras like bait collecting and throw net ect and fuel to get there and bait, it ad up so if i want to use and not abuse my catch its my right

Blah blah blah.  It's your right.  Seriously.  I will personally come to George and laugh in your face when various species are placed on prohibited list.  It's your right pfffffffft.  What a bunch of short-sighted rubbish.  It's your right.  Geez sounds like the manifesto of a certain party.  It's our rights. Blah blah blah.  When people start to ignore the greater good and justify with "it's our right" then you going one way.  And let's just say it's not up.

It is exactly because of people like you and posts like this that Sealine members leave or stop posting on this forum

This thread is aimed squarely at people like you!

I note, after having quickly scanned your posts over the last few months, that this is the sort of thing you keep yourself busy with. In fact, you hardly ever contribute something meaningful.

To make matters worse, this is what you wrote on 19 June 2013:


"Ben for the record - I have become quite bored with Sealine and also the handling of issues - the Admin's are actually a PITA and impose their value system on the Users. Enough thanks"


And on the same day:

"Right you are! This is my last post on Sealine. Time to move on and up.

Adios."

(ID this Fish thread)


So the question begs, what are you doing back here?


I belong to a boat forum which us Cape guys frequent, and I tell you, you would not be welcome there


It is not your place to get personal with members who catch size and stick to quota as entitled to by the fishing regulations


I suggest to Admin that you get carded, and if you then still not fall in line be asked to leave...and then will no coming back again


This used to be such an amazing forum...I cannot tell you how gatvol I am of "members" like you!

 



 


 

 

[Brett Jacobs]

thika wrote:

FeedingFrenzy wrote:

tuna wrote:

its legal to keep any steembra or cob if its size and big
Its not for you to judge, i normally release fish above 15kg but sometimes i keep them to make sosaties or ingelegte vis
I pay my fishing license every year(close to R500), with extras like bait collecting and throw net ect and fuel to get there and bait, it ad up so if i want to use and not abuse my catch its my right

Blah blah blah.  It's your right.  Seriously.  I will personally come to George and laugh in your face when various species are placed on prohibited list.  It's your right pfffffffft.  What a bunch of short-sighted rubbish.  It's your right.  Geez sounds like the manifesto of a certain party.  It's our rights. Blah blah blah.  When people start to ignore the greater good and justify with "it's our right" then you going one way.  And let's just say it's not up.

It is exactly because of people like you and posts like this that Sealine members leave or stop posting on this forum

This thread is aimed squarely at people like you!

I note, after having quickly scanned your posts over the last few months, that this is the sort of thing you keep yourself busy with. In fact, you hardly ever contribute something meaningful.

To make matters worse, this is what you wrote on 19 June 2013:


"Ben for the record - I have become quite bored with Sealine and also the handling of issues - the Admin's are actually a PITA and impose their value system on the Users. Enough thanks"


And on the same day:

"Right you are! This is my last post on Sealine. Time to move on and up.

Adios."

(ID this Fish thread)


So the question begs, what are you doing back here?


I belong to a boat forum which us Cape guys frequent, and I tell you, you would not be welcome there


It is not your place to get personal with members who catch size and stick to quota as entitled to by the fishing regulations


I suggest to Admin that you get carded, and if you then still not fall in line be asked to leave...and then will no coming back again


This used to be such an amazing forum...I cannot tell you how gatvol I am of "members" like you!

LIKE

 

[Blaasop]

Thanks for the info, jb2.

In these days of doom and gloom it is good to know that everything has not fallen apart yet. Of course these measures were taken because of a fast diminishing resource, but its encouraging to know that the authorities were prepared to take drastic steps.

And yes, I also agree with a previous poster regarding the impact of us recreationals as well. Pity about the lack of proper policing (money, amongst other things, probably the main obstacle), because I really would have like to go diving for some perlemoen still.

 

[Kalahari Skipper]

You know what? Most of you guys that have commented here is "old" Sealiners. I am not, nor am I a hardedned experienced fishermen.After Fishingfrenzy's comments I'm strongly contemplating selling my fishing tackle, and to stop fishing altogether.

Why would I expose myself to someone like Fishingfrenzy. What if he sees me fishing one day, taking home the one or two fish I was able to catch, after months of learning the trade and the seas, and the tricks of the trade? After enduring the elements, the wind, the salt, the sun, the cold at night, trying to figure out which species prefer which bait and which presentations in which areas? Am I then not LEGALLY entitled to some form of compensation; since I bought my fishing license and took the time and effort to learn responsible fishing?

Who are you, Frenzy, to tell me I may not bag my LEGAL catch?

You know what Frenzy? If I hook a HUGE cob, its going home buddy!!!  Chew on that. I surely will!!!

PS: One has to eat at least one of the BIG ones one catches, hey?

 

[Imfeni]

jb2 wrote:

trevour wrote:

If the legal criteria for keeping a fish is incorrect, then the fight should be with those making the law. You can't have a go at someone driving 60km/hour if 60 is the speed limit. If you think 60 is too dangerous, then the limit is what you should spend your energy trying to change.

That's why we have laws - they define what is right and wrong, what we may or may not do, and as citizens we believe decisions for passing laws are made by informed people. So I would agree that people should be left alone if they keep a fish that they are aloud to keep, knowing that the time was taken by informed people with regards to any and every fish to set a legal size and bag limit.a

Hi Trevour

That hits the nail on the head.

Our linefish management is very rigorous.

We have some good science. (The SA linefsih database is one of the biggest of its kind anywhere in the World. It might be hard to believe that we still have pockets of excellence but there you have it.)

We have a ban on driving on beaches. (I see this as a control on fishing effort since it restricts access to isolated and hard to reach places.

We have had a huge reduction in linefish effort since 2001.

I am worried about conservation that just becomes a guilt cult where we go on about how we are all raping Mother Earth.

 

This is precisely the point I am trying to make (That’s if I understand what JB2 has posted)

We (Government) are already managing our coastline and coastal waters to a great extent, we as Anglers only have reasonable access to 25% of our coastline, we also have a bag limit that we have to adhere to.

Should more areas be closed we are only putting strain on the areas we still have access to these areas will then be over fished.

We can already see this impact on certain fishing spots

 



 

 

[FeedingFrenzy]

thika wrote:

FeedingFrenzy wrote:

tuna wrote:

its legal to keep any steembra or cob if its size and big
Its not for you to judge, i normally release fish above 15kg but sometimes i keep them to make sosaties or ingelegte vis
I pay my fishing license every year(close to R500), with extras like bait collecting and throw net ect and fuel to get there and bait, it ad up so if i want to use and not abuse my catch its my right

Blah blah blah.  It's your right.  Seriously.  I will personally come to George and laugh in your face when various species are placed on prohibited list.  It's your right pfffffffft.  What a bunch of short-sighted rubbish.  It's your right.  Geez sounds like the manifesto of a certain party.  It's our rights. Blah blah blah.  When people start to ignore the greater good and justify with "it's our right" then you going one way.  And let's just say it's not up.

It is exactly because of people like you and posts like this that Sealine members leave or stop posting on this forum

This thread is aimed squarely at people like you!

I note, after having quickly scanned your posts over the last few months, that this is the sort of thing you keep yourself busy with. In fact, you hardly ever contribute something meaningful.

To make matters worse, this is what you wrote on 19 June 2013:


"Ben for the record - I have become quite bored with Sealine and also the handling of issues - the Admin's are actually a PITA and impose their value system on the Users. Enough thanks"


And on the same day:

"Right you are! This is my last post on Sealine. Time to move on and up.

Adios."

(ID this Fish thread)


So the question begs, what are you doing back here?


I belong to a boat forum which us Cape guys frequent, and I tell you, you would not be welcome there


It is not your place to get personal with members who catch size and stick to quota as entitled to by the fishing regulations


I suggest to Admin that you get carded, and if you then still not fall in line be asked to leave...and then will no coming back again


This used to be such an amazing forum...I cannot tell you how gatvol I am of "members" like you!

Call it a bugbear.  Call it a thorn in my side.  Truth is I cannot for the life of me fathom the depths of human stupidity.  That anglers think that we do not have an impact on our fish populations.  Amazing how the Breede was being raped and all and sundry would be congratulating the culprits, yet when slot limits were put in place people suddenly turned around and said "Good idea" - why? because now it is law and must be obeyed.  Ditto Rapala trolling.  Ditto night fishing.  Now it is a good thing.  Until it was law very few people gave a damn.  And jumped up and down when someone (rightfully) pointed out that this was not good - because it is not sustainable.  If we choose to keep on taking large dusky cob and large white steenbras we will be responsible for taking them too far over the edge to be considered sustainable.

And all this apparently doesn't bother you?  Or only when it's law - then it must be obeyed.  Laws were made for people that can't think for themselves, that cannot without guidance decide on what the right thing to do.

And for the record: I do not ever recall asking why a fish was not released.  Ever.  And seeing as you are so good at using the search function please find one.

 

[Mike Smith]

FeedingFrenzy wrote:

thika wrote:

FeedingFrenzy wrote:

tuna wrote:

its legal to keep any steembra or cob if its size and big
Its not for you to judge, i normally release fish above 15kg but sometimes i keep them to make sosaties or ingelegte vis
I pay my fishing license every year(close to R500), with extras like bait collecting and throw net ect and fuel to get there and bait, it ad up so if i want to use and not abuse my catch its my right

Blah blah blah.  It's your right.  Seriously.  I will personally come to George and laugh in your face when various species are placed on prohibited list.  It's your right pfffffffft.  What a bunch of short-sighted rubbish.  It's your right.  Geez sounds like the manifesto of a certain party.  It's our rights. Blah blah blah.  When people start to ignore the greater good and justify with "it's our right" then you going one way.  And let's just say it's not up.

It is exactly because of people like you and posts like this that Sealine members leave or stop posting on this forum

This thread is aimed squarely at people like you!

I note, after having quickly scanned your posts over the last few months, that this is the sort of thing you keep yourself busy with. In fact, you hardly ever contribute something meaningful.

To make matters worse, this is what you wrote on 19 June 2013:


"Ben for the record - I have become quite bored with Sealine and also the handling of issues - the Admin's are actually a PITA and impose their value system on the Users. Enough thanks"


And on the same day:

"Right you are! This is my last post on Sealine. Time to move on and up.

Adios."

(ID this Fish thread)


So the question begs, what are you doing back here?


I belong to a boat forum which us Cape guys frequent, and I tell you, you would not be welcome there


It is not your place to get personal with members who catch size and stick to quota as entitled to by the fishing regulations


I suggest to Admin that you get carded, and if you then still not fall in line be asked to leave...and then will no coming back again


This used to be such an amazing forum...I cannot tell you how gatvol I am of "members" like you!

Call it a bugbear.  Call it a thorn in my side.  Truth is I cannot for the life of me fathom the depths of human stupidity.  That anglers think that we do not have an impact on our fish populations.  Amazing how the Breede was being raped and all and sundry would be congratulating the culprits, yet when slot limits were put in place people suddenly turned around and said "Good idea" - why? because now it is law and must be obeyed.  Ditto Rapala trolling.  Ditto night fishing.  Now it is a good thing.  Until it was law very few people gave a damn.  And jumped up and down when someone (rightfully) pointed out that this was not good - because it is not sustainable.  If we choose to keep on taking large dusky cob and large white steenbras we will be responsible for taking them too far over the edge to be considered sustainable.

And all this apparently doesn't bother you?  Or only when it's law - then it must be obeyed.  Laws were made for people that can't think for themselves, that cannot without guidance decide on what the right thing to do.

And for the record: I do not ever recall asking why a fish was not released.  Ever.  And seeing as you are so good at using the search function please find one.

.