why conservation dont work

Mouldz

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These guys sell fish in town in full view of police officers and coservation
 

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kopstamp

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Thats a big grunter!!
But yes its a shocker what gets looked over!
Here in knysna its no better. Bait and fish on a daily basis.
 
Conservation doesn't work because WE do nothing about it!

A couple of years ago I also took some nice pictures of illegal activity. This was at Robberg Beach corner, up against the rocks, in the reserve area. Mature guy all kitted out with gloves and a knife – don’t know what he was collecting, but he was scouring for a while, helping himself right UNDERNEATH A PROHIBITION BOARD!!!

This is why I can never comment on other ‘conservation’ posts, because I did….nothing! Wish I had just had a conversation with the guy and if it got heated, to just walk away. At least I would be OK with myself for having done something because each time I walk near that corner, I feel guilty!!!

Thanks for the opportunity to own-up and confess Mouldz!
 

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Serra Moz

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George Orwell's Animal Farm with a small twist - "All humans are equal, but some humans are more equal than others"
 

m4kes

Senior Member
Mouldz wrote:
These guys sell fish in town in full view of police officers and coservation

Mouldz, I always see guys selling fish on the Fish River Bridge when passing.
Mostly grunter & the odd cob.
 

Kollonel

Member
As long as people will buy from these guys it will not stop. In Knysna it's a huge problem, espesially with bait as people place orders for eg bloodworm etc. Its decemating the resource as the fines handed to the guy selling is no deterant. Start fining the buyers and nobody will take the risk to buy.
 

CharlesF

Senior Member
I have also seen the locals at Kleinbrak selling mud prawns.

Worst of all is that those prawns not sold are being thrown away.
 

Stefan001

Senior Member
CharlesF wrote:
I have also seen the locals at Kleinbrak selling mud prawns.

Worst of all is that those prawns not sold are being thrown away.
Went spinning there the other day and found a container full of mudprawn just discarded along the water line. I decided rather than wasting it, my friends and I finished it. Caught 5 stumpnose and a leka grunter which I tagged on the prawns.

Almost every time you drive in there, there are guys trying to sell you prawns, or want to help you collect. Not my type of fishing.
 

Bern

Member
Its the demand that drives this business. As long as there is a possibility that someone will buy fish and bait there will be people selling.

So statements like "some are more equal than others " are not actually reasonable ib this case.

Who buys bait and fish? People with spending money do!

Its a bit like dealing with rhino and perlie poaching- you can hunt down the poachers as much as you want ( and you should!). But until you kill the demand it'll never stop completely.

Its likely that luigat recreationals are buying the bait and that uninformed or "couldn't care less" general members of the public are buying the fish.

So its not really a case of selective prosecution like some have mentioned here. Its a case of not giving enough of a damn for a natural resource.

THATS why conservation doesn't work.
 

Pixel_Ninja

Sealiner
I brought this up some time ago during the kob selling fiasco. Apparently grunter arent as important as dusky kob, or such was the general response from the chaps here.
 

Bern

Member
I hear what you are saying, but without a permit selling fish is not an honest living.

Its just viewed as less serious than other crimes.
 

RobinF

New member
I think that they should spend more time empowering these guys with permits, as they did in PE. They gave the bait diggers entrepreneurship, educated them, gave them permits and only they can sell. Last I heard (It may have changed) these bait diggers were protecting their 'turf' from 'rif raff'.

What I have found is that if you interact with the nature conservation guys, most are actually motivated, good info helps, so if you have , pass it on. The cops do nothing, it's the Nature Conservation guys that act. Before visiting one destination, I called the guys and told them what was happening and that I hope that I would not be witnessing any of it. They did not know me, but I was well inspected by them. I was pleased to see their efforts. They REALLY did their job well.

Hey Lord Litho - It's never too late to make a difference, even a tiny one helps. So you feel bad about what happened, we all make mistakes, forget about it. If everyone did something small to protect our marine resources, it would not take long before we all saw a difference, so now is your chance - if you see something again, let the authorities know. 
 
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