What spares do you carry?
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As for myself, I carry a set of spare props too. Have never needed them at sea, but will be happy to have them if I ever do?
We surf launch here though, so it is more in case of hitting something on the way out or in not ruining your holiday than the chance of hitting something at sea - but that has happened too, only broke the skeg protector. To this day I have no idea what it was we hit.
We surf launch here though, so it is more in case of hitting something on the way out or in not ruining your holiday than the chance of hitting something at sea - but that has happened too, only broke the skeg protector. To this day I have no idea what it was we hit.
Bit off the topic, but I have bottles in my hull...what to do if you holed it and the bottles start floating out?
Met Chris, Gerrit and Theuns at Paternoster on Friday (commercials) and they hit a log 10 miles out which holed them..fortunately with foam in the front and bottles in the rear.
Thought maybe a few square meters of fishnet which you can bundle into the hole allowing to expand on the inside and tie back to something on the boat to keep it in place?
Met Chris, Gerrit and Theuns at Paternoster on Friday (commercials) and they hit a log 10 miles out which holed them..fortunately with foam in the front and bottles in the rear.
Thought maybe a few square meters of fishnet which you can bundle into the hole allowing to expand on the inside and tie back to something on the boat to keep it in place?
thika, i also have bottles in my hull. Its one of my biggest fears hitting a whale or what ever debris there may be, what do you do if there is a big enough hole for the bottles to get out?
Will you have time to put the fishnet in the hole before the boat fills up with water? How long will it take you find the hole beneath the water, let alone stuff a net in there.
I am moving down to PE end of the year, then i will have time to work on my boat, 1 of the first things thats gonna happen is to fill the hull with foam with the bottles still in the hull.
Will you have time to put the fishnet in the hole before the boat fills up with water? How long will it take you find the hole beneath the water, let alone stuff a net in there.
I am moving down to PE end of the year, then i will have time to work on my boat, 1 of the first things thats gonna happen is to fill the hull with foam with the bottles still in the hull.
thika wrote:
This is where your liferaft comes in, Thika! If you hit something and the impact is such that you end up with the size hole you describe, you would probably be thrown off the boat. One could possibly stuff lifejackets in the hole if you had any to spare and duct tape over the whole lot.
Most ski boats have double bottoms, ie the area where the foam or bottles are placed.
Most boats would actually float with their double bottom flooded, however much deeper in the water, and in flat water could be ok....less so in waves.
Id be surprised if your double bottom is one compartment such that you could loose all your bottles through one hole.
Also unless rolling like a behatch....the bottles own buoyancy would push them up, and not down through the hole......you could start loosing bottles, but I doubt it would be a mass exodus.
I have foam, but would prefer bottles, but then I am Cat R, so expect flattish water. My boat can float with the entire double bottom flooded......so actually would (in Cat R) have preferred nothing in the double bottom, and would have left its watertight integrity in tact, instead of making holes and fitting hatches.....and having foam that can absorb water and weight
Most boats would actually float with their double bottom flooded, however much deeper in the water, and in flat water could be ok....less so in waves.
Id be surprised if your double bottom is one compartment such that you could loose all your bottles through one hole.
Also unless rolling like a behatch....the bottles own buoyancy would push them up, and not down through the hole......you could start loosing bottles, but I doubt it would be a mass exodus.
I have foam, but would prefer bottles, but then I am Cat R, so expect flattish water. My boat can float with the entire double bottom flooded......so actually would (in Cat R) have preferred nothing in the double bottom, and would have left its watertight integrity in tact, instead of making holes and fitting hatches.....and having foam that can absorb water and weight
Emergency Equipment and Supplies
all my stuff is vacuum packet - seperately, and kept in it's own compartment
Tools - ENOUGH
Spare Plugs for one motor
One Complete Fuel Pump
Clamps
Pipe
Primer Bulb
Rope
Electrical Wire (2x length of boat)
Fuses (all the kinds I need on boat)
Spare Handheld GPS
Diving Torch
No Batteries Torch
One Spare Alu Prop
Hydralic Fluid
500ml 2Stroke
Have 3 Batteries (2 for motors, 1 big heavy duty for electronics)
Jumper Cables
Cable Ties
Epoxy
2 Lighters
Spare Cigarettes
Insulation Tape
Duct Tape
Split Pins + Prop Nut
20L of Water (minimum) - u never know
Food for atleast 3 days - u never know
2 EXTRA ROCKET FLARES
Spare Battery Terminals
And some more stuff I can't think of now
all my stuff is vacuum packet - seperately, and kept in it's own compartment
Tools - ENOUGH
Spare Plugs for one motor
One Complete Fuel Pump
Clamps
Pipe
Primer Bulb
Rope
Electrical Wire (2x length of boat)
Fuses (all the kinds I need on boat)
Spare Handheld GPS
Diving Torch
No Batteries Torch
One Spare Alu Prop
Hydralic Fluid
500ml 2Stroke
Have 3 Batteries (2 for motors, 1 big heavy duty for electronics)
Jumper Cables
Cable Ties
Epoxy
2 Lighters
Spare Cigarettes
Insulation Tape
Duct Tape
Split Pins + Prop Nut
20L of Water (minimum) - u never know
Food for atleast 3 days - u never know
2 EXTRA ROCKET FLARES
Spare Battery Terminals
And some more stuff I can't think of now
Foam in my hull above bottles, ANY DAY OF THE WEEK
Have seen bottles get our of hulls after hitting objects in the sea and even in the river, one boat I fixed (had foam in it) actually hit a HOUSEHOLD GEYSER at sea, ripping half the one side of the boat off - completely off, boat travelled another 5 or 10nm to reach safety like that, at crawling speed ofcourse.
Closed cell foam absorbs water, said to be 10 %, but make drainage holes and that water must come out again when the boat is stored.
Have seen bottles get our of hulls after hitting objects in the sea and even in the river, one boat I fixed (had foam in it) actually hit a HOUSEHOLD GEYSER at sea, ripping half the one side of the boat off - completely off, boat travelled another 5 or 10nm to reach safety like that, at crawling speed ofcourse.
Closed cell foam absorbs water, said to be 10 %, but make drainage holes and that water must come out again when the boat is stored.
In terms of safety first on seagoing vessels I would agree with foam over bottles, as per your case study.
On Cat R vessels, especially those than can float safely with all crew onboard with double bottom flooded, then I don't favour foam, purely due to its water and weight absorbtion factor. If there was a way to remove and replace it from time to time, I would be less reticent about it.
On fishing trawlers (admittedly large ones) where they use this self same foam in the insulation of the fishholds, typically 300mm thick, many cases have found literally tonnes of trapped water in that foam (over time)....one vessel (a large one) had 20 tonnes of trapped water in the foam....and it does not drain of its own accord.....when doing a refit, they strip out everything and refoam.
On Cat R vessels, especially those than can float safely with all crew onboard with double bottom flooded, then I don't favour foam, purely due to its water and weight absorbtion factor. If there was a way to remove and replace it from time to time, I would be less reticent about it.
On fishing trawlers (admittedly large ones) where they use this self same foam in the insulation of the fishholds, typically 300mm thick, many cases have found literally tonnes of trapped water in that foam (over time)....one vessel (a large one) had 20 tonnes of trapped water in the foam....and it does not drain of its own accord.....when doing a refit, they strip out everything and refoam.
neilg,
What do you think of gerritp's idea to foam the spaces between the bottles?
Can this be effectively done?...cause that sounds like the ideal to me
I have been speaking to a lot of guys recently who fish everyday for a living and the water absorbtion remains a MAJOR problem!
What do you think of gerritp's idea to foam the spaces between the bottles?
Can this be effectively done?...cause that sounds like the ideal to me
I have been speaking to a lot of guys recently who fish everyday for a living and the water absorbtion remains a MAJOR problem!
I doubt the bottles may be covered with foam - that's why there are inspection hatches to inspect the condition of the bottles. I think the idea of NeilG is good and would expand on that by providing drainage to the foam but in the form of perforated pipes moulded into the foam, all leading to the drain holes. Almost like subsoil / agricultural drains.