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ThefishinMagician

Sealiner
Hi Gents

It seems you guys know your stuff and have the tools to do the job. 

But if one was starting out what equipment / tools would you suggest the newbie invests in?.  (Also please bare in mind, I ride a desk all day so the garage is not stocked.)

Your Suggestions? 
 
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benniejordaan

Sealiner
ThefishinMagician wrote:
what equipment / tools would you suggest the newbie invests in?. 
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It all depends on what you want to make. Don't rush out and buy everything if you don't need it.

For lures I use the following machines:
Compressor (for painting)
Air brush (even the cheap ones work well, I have some that cost only about R80)
Jigsaw (for mould making)

That is all I use! The rest is done with sand paper.

For poppers:
A lathe is essential. You can get one for under R1000 these days.
A drilling machine (I prefer a cordless)


Stick / crank baits:
A belt sander is very handy together with the lather. I turn a blank then shape it on the belt sander.
Carving tools if you want to put some details on the lure. Personally I want to make lures that catch fish not anglers so couldn't be bothered with detailing.

In terms of hand tools, the following is handy:
Sanding block ( you can use a plank though)
A set of files
Rasp
Utility knife
Proper side cutters
Paint brushes, I use cheap craft brusher about R3 each.
A set of drills
Your basic tools will do the rest.
A decent pair of external circlip pliers are handy because they have 2 round jaws that can be used to manipulate wire forms.
Set of chisels (for the lathe)

Some paints (2-K automotive paints):
All I have is primary colours in 1ltr containers that I mix up. For the pearls and metallics, I go to the paint suppliers and ask them what left overs they got left over from mixing for customers and get small amounts from them.
Clear coat also essential.
Primer in spray cans, red oxide works well because it sticks to anything.

Mould making:
Tongue depressors, nice for mixing stuff. I also cut them to make scrapers to scrape excess clay.
PVC gloves are a nice to have
Paper cups for mixing materials

Start collecting wood, if see some, grab it. Pallets, broken furniture, even broken branches.

If there is something specifically you want to make, we can narrow it down.
If there is anything else I can think of, I will let you know.

Cheers
B
 
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ThefishinMagician

Sealiner
Ok, so lets look at what we have....

benniejordaan wrote:
ThefishinMagician wrote:
what equipment / tools would you suggest the newbie invests in?. 
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It all depends on what you want to make. Don't rush out and buy everything if you don't need it.

For lures I use the following machines:
Compressor (for painting) - can organise
Air brush (even the cheap ones work well, I have some that cost only about R80) - I saw builders warehouse now stock airbrushes..
Jigsaw (for mould making) - check (1 out of 3 not too shabby)

That is all I use! The rest is done with sand paper.

For poppers:
A lathe is essential. You can get one for under R1000 these days. - recommended brands?
A drilling machine (I prefer a cordless) - Std Drill in a drill press?  ( i think my old man has one lying in the garage)


Stick / crank baits:
A belt sander is very handy together with the lather. I turn a blank then shape it on the belt sander.
Carving tools if you want to put some details on the lure. Personally I want to make lures that catch fish not anglers so couldn't be bothered with detailing.

In terms of hand tools, the following is handy:
Sanding block ( you can use a plank though) Check
 A set of files Check
 Rasp Check
Utility knife Check
 Proper side cutters Check
 Paint brushes, I use cheap craft brusher about R3 each. - check the wife's stock
A set of drills
Your basic tools will do the rest.
A decent pair of external circlip pliers are handy because they have 2 round jaws that can be used to manipulate wire forms.
Set of chisels (for the lathe)

Some paints (2-K automotive paints): - Will have to source a small supply
All I have is primary colours in 1ltr containers that I mix up. For the pearls and metallics, I go to the paint suppliers and ask them what left overs they got left over from mixing for customers and get small amounts from them.
Clear coat also essential.
Primer in spray cans, red oxide works well because it sticks to anything.

Mould making: - Most i can get from work
Tongue depressors, nice for mixing stuff. I also cut them to make scrapers to scrape excess clay.
PVC gloves are a nice to have
Paper cups for mixing materials

Start collecting wood, if see some, grab it. Pallets, broken furniture, even broken branches.

If there is something specifically you want to make, we can narrow it down.
If there is anything else I can think of, I will let you know.

Cheers
B
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Bearing all that in mind.. is there any specific wood type you would suggest? I see alot of the lure making sites (USA) suggest Birch / Balsa etc.  but to get that here i presume is a costly affair

I enjoy the surface lures so these will be my first choice. I will start working on the lathe and the work space... shot for the tips.
 
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tackle whore

Senior Member
birch,maple,balsa,cherry are all cheap in USA baring balsa its all grown locally . to play with pine works fine once you get into it look at mahogany, beech but rooikranz,hakia,"namibian thorn tree" - the packs of braai wood has wonderful pieces for turning .
 
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benniejordaan

Sealiner
ThefishinMagician wrote:
Ok, so lets look at what we have....

benniejordaan wrote:
ThefishinMagician wrote:
what equipment / tools would you suggest the newbie invests in?. 
Click to expand...
It all depends on what you want to make. Don't rush out and buy everything if you don't need it.

For lures I use the following machines:
Compressor (for painting) - can organise
Air brush (even the cheap ones work well, I have some that cost only about R80) - I saw builders warehouse now stock airbrushes..
Jigsaw (for mould making) - check (1 out of 3 not too shabby)

That is all I use! The rest is done with sand paper.

For poppers:
A lathe is essential. You can get one for under R1000 these days. - recommended brands?
A drilling machine (I prefer a cordless) - Std Drill in a drill press?  ( i think my old man has one lying in the garage)


Stick / crank baits:
A belt sander is very handy together with the lather. I turn a blank then shape it on the belt sander.
Carving tools if you want to put some details on the lure. Personally I want to make lures that catch fish not anglers so couldn't be bothered with detailing.

In terms of hand tools, the following is handy:
Sanding block ( you can use a plank though) Check
 A set of files Check
 Rasp Check
Utility knife Check
 Proper side cutters Check
 Paint brushes, I use cheap craft brusher about R3 each. - check the wife's stock
A set of drills
Your basic tools will do the rest.
A decent pair of external circlip pliers are handy because they have 2 round jaws that can be used to manipulate wire forms.
Set of chisels (for the lathe)

Some paints (2-K automotive paints): - Will have to source a small supply
All I have is primary colours in 1ltr containers that I mix up. For the pearls and metallics, I go to the paint suppliers and ask them what left overs they got left over from mixing for customers and get small amounts from them.
Clear coat also essential.
Primer in spray cans, red oxide works well because it sticks to anything.

Mould making: - Most i can get from work
Tongue depressors, nice for mixing stuff. I also cut them to make scrapers to scrape excess clay.
PVC gloves are a nice to have
Paper cups for mixing materials

Start collecting wood, if see some, grab it. Pallets, broken furniture, even broken branches.

If there is something specifically you want to make, we can narrow it down.
If there is anything else I can think of, I will let you know.

Cheers
B
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Bearing all that in mind.. is there any specific wood type you would suggest? I see alot of the lure making sites (USA) suggest Birch / Balsa etc.  but to get that here i presume is a costly affair

I enjoy the surface lures so these will be my first choice. I will start working on the lathe and the work space... shot for the tips.
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You can use ANY wood. You can seal and weight them with lead, it is endless. Use a nice exotic wood if you just clear coating it. If painting it's not too much of an issue. If the wood is soft like Balsa / Pine, it is easier to work with and you can seal it with a floor epoxi which will make it durable.

For surface lures, pine will work a treat.

Try find a furniture manufacturer or wood works in your area and ask them if you can have some scraps. They will have skips full of the stuff for free.

For the lathe, nothing fancy is needed. Mate of mine has a Ryobi and I got one from Adendorf. They are cheap but work fine, we not doing precision work or mass production runs. Look around and take the one with the biggest motor.

For the paint, make a lure and decide on a colour scheme, then just get what you need, you can build up your paint stocks as you go along. Glitters are available from the excitement store, cheap, under the clear coats it will liven up any paint job for next to nothing. Add blue, green, silver red etc.

Eyes, check out bidorbuy, I can make you some stick ons if you need. TW is in your area, I'm sure he can hook you up with a few bits and pieces too.

I look forward to seeing some works of art!
 
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tauruck

Sealiner
Calder, find a friend.

One with a lathe and give him a bunch of profiles. Easier than getting into turning when bucks are short.

Buy a good Airbrush. Cheap ones are fine but when you want to elevate your designs to painting fine detail they come up short.

Like fishing, don't go R&S with a R50 reel.

Mix paint in your thinners and not the other way. Thin, thin paint for airbrush.

The rest like a painting jig you can knock up cheap.

Only your imagination can stop you.
 
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benniejordaan

Sealiner
tackle whore wrote:
birch,maple,balsa,cherry are all cheap in USA baring balsa its all grown locally . to play with pine works fine once you get into it look at mahogany, beech but rooikranz,hakia,"namibian thorn tree" - the packs of braai wood has wonderful pieces for turning .
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Check your own garden, start chopping trees down so the wood will dry by next summer.
I got my hands on some off cuts of African Rosewood!::S
 
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PH

Senior Member
Of course  its Calder!

Never managed to meet up with you in December

Go to Rarewoods near the airport in CT. They sell bags of exotic wood offcuts for braai firewood - R20 a bag when I was last there. And these are big bags

Good luck
 
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PH

Senior Member
I bought a bag of African Blackwood there for R20 and at R 450 000.00 per m3 its the most expensive wood in the world. Its so dense and heavy, it actually sinks in water
 
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benniejordaan

Sealiner
John F wrote:
benniejordaan wrote:
Check your own garden, start chopping trees down so the wood will dry by next summer.
I got my hands on some off cuts of African Rosewood!::S
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Bennie,
look out... you never know who's reading this... there must be a society for the protection of trees somewhere which will NOT like the idea of trees being mutilated just for this... (sorry I just couldn't resist!) ....
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Hahaha, my yard, my trees, now my poppers!:fbash

BTW, you props are with me and Serra Moz is collecting them next Thursday. I got some unfinished business in Moz, I want to come back soon, you must try to meet up with us for a day on the water.
 
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