True or False: Carp can't see in the dark.

[HeartCoppi]

There's a small but difficult dam walking distance from my house with some nice size carp; and really no nursery size to speak of because of a handful of barbel.
Obviously I have learnt this dam well.
The silty bottom and patches of growth have pushed me to small floaties.
I have worked the patrol routes well and also use another trick that allows me to use nothing but a plain white floatie.
Absolutely nothing else. Hook line are no longer than 8cm.
This proves to me that carp can see these floaties in light and really go for them. The theory is that they think its a piece of stray bread thrown out for the ducks. They are conditioned to go for this.

But,
at night at the patrol 'hot spot' ... this never never never works.

Put down a feeding area and floatie still doesn't work, nor a flavoured floatie or bleeding floatie.

Carp cant see in the dark?

Do floaties not work in the dark unless the water is clear and the moonlight is good?

Must you switch to hook baits that lie on the ground and are bedded in a "scented/ attractant" boll?

What is working for you in conventional carp bank angling ... in the dark?
and what have you definitely written off as not to be used at night?

I'd really like to hear your thoughts please
Cheers

 

[fox65]

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"Interestingly enough the only way I can get the odd run in the dark on singles is by using day-glo white versions, which suggests that these can be seen more easily than other colours. I discovered why this might be when I watched a programme on tv called 'Supersense' narrated by David Attenborough. The programme looked at aspects of various creatures vision and interestingly they highlighted the fact, with proof, that cyprinids see in the infra-red spectrum. White is the colour that best reflects any light in in the infra-red spectrum that is available via moonlight. Through a great deal of use I know that using white baits increases your chances of a pick up at night"

Above writen by Frank Warwick in Tim Paisleys book 'Carp', and having done pretty well in the past on single white baits at night I tend to agree with him.

 

[fox65]

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"Interestingly enough the only way I can get the odd run in the dark on singles is by using day-glo white versions, which suggests that these can be seen more easily than other colours. I discovered why this might be when I watched a programme on tv called 'Supersense' narrated by David Attenborough. The programme looked at aspects of various creatures vision and interestingly they highlighted the fact, with proof, that cyprinids see in the infra-red spectrum. White is the colour that best reflects any light in in the infra-red spectrum that is available via moonlight. Through a great deal of use I know that using white baits increases your chances of a pick up at night"

Above writen by Frank Warwick in Tim Paisleys book 'Carp', and having done pretty well in the past on single white baits at night I tend to agree with him.

 

[fox65]

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"Interestingly enough the only way I can get the odd run in the dark on singles is by using day-glo white versions, which suggests that these can be seen more easily than other colours. I discovered why this might be when I watched a programme on tv called 'Supersense' narrated by David Attenborough. The programme looked at aspects of various creatures vision and interestingly they highlighted the fact, with proof, that cyprinids see in the infra-red spectrum. White is the colour that best reflects any light in in the infra-red spectrum that is available via moonlight. Through a great deal of use I know that using white baits increases your chances of a pick up at night"

Above writen by Frank Warwick in Tim Paisleys book 'Carp', and having done pretty well in the past on single white baits at night I tend to agree with him.

 

[HennieB]

http://www.korda.co.uk/articles/view.php?id=238

 

[HeartCoppi]

Thanks fox65 and thanks HennieB; I have relished reading your posts.
I'm struggling at increasing my night fishing catch rate; compared to same spot day time catch rate.
I have figured to go to ground and high vis. Think I'll try the artificial white corn.

 

[Oom G]

I tend to agree wit the above.... The general trend was that carp don't realy bite at night but we've caught the carp day and night at the same rate....
White floaties and something strong on the bol like DD and garlic generally did the trick for me...
If your feeding swim is up to scratch than you should land some decent fish through out your session.

BUT, this trend i"ve noticed, is more depictable on a full moon...so yeh....

 

[Oom G]

Which colours reflect better generally for a infra-red spectrum? White we know, but what else?

 

[joshua02]

Night fishing is when i get most of my carp, but you have too use stronger smelling baits I add vanilla essence, pineapple and pink sweets, to my floaties and meilies

 

[wetfrog]

Have you tried these yet ?

 

[Alien Invader]

Here is a clipping of an article that may shed some "light" on the subject...
Hope it posts clear-eish!

 

[pumamangp]

The carp might be in a different area of the dam during the night as commonly found during the day.