Tropical Yellowtail

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Cman - Great fish those... Mike Lange took those fish, I used to fish with him when I was a laaaaaaiiitie!
Those fish are actually Amberjack,Seriola dumerili, not Yellowtail, Seriola Llandi......either way, that 49 Kilo is a BUS!!! Seems I need to get hold of Mike again whe I'm nex back on the coast!!

 

As you can see, its really difficult to sometimes find the real true differences between all the seriola family as some are so very similar.... Then throw in all the different local names for species, and one can get pretty confused....

One we haven't discussed here is the Aussie Samsonfish, or Sambo, which is Seriola Hippos, and closely resembles the Amberjack more than the Yellowtail..... More to add to the confusion pot!!!

The second pic of Reef's is what we locally refer to as a Tropical Yellowtail, which have become a rather common catch on our East Coast warmer waters. Lovely specimen with GL's brother...

Reefs your Dusky is a far rarer catch mate, very well done!! Very different tail structure and head shape too....

 

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Reefs - Shows the great confusion surrounding the Seriola Family the world over it seems...

Seriola rivoliana - is known as Almaco Jack, Tropcal Yellowtail, and Longfin Amberjack, depending on its locale....

Recently however, I saw somewhere, might even have been in Ski-Boat magazine, someone asking for an ID o a vry similar fish, but which actually had long pectoral fins.... I'll see if I can find out.....

The big thing is that the Seriola family can appear very different within the same species, due to feeding habits, locale etc...
Amberjack especially, can sometimes be long and lean fish, very similar to Samsonfish, where at other times they will be MUCH deeper of body, and squatter, far more reminiscent of the Almaco, or Tropical or Longfin Amberjack.... See how tricky this gets!! ;-)

Very intersting to hear that JT refers to the two as separate species.... I wonder what the differences are? Ray counts in the finds perhaps?
But as it stands under the Scientific name, S.Rivoliana is an Almaco Jack, aka, Tropical Yellowtail, aka Longfin Amberjack.

Really love this thread, awesome learning about all these great Seriolas!!! What you think Reefs?

 

[Reefman]

Ya bru... methinks I'm confuzzed seriously now... I think having looked at that species now that it's not a Longfin... Smith's encyclopedia also seems to confuse a few species and the name Tropical Yellowtail doesn't even appear on Fishbase?!?!?

what amazes me is that all these Seriolas form part of the Carangoides family... GT/Kingfish/Leeries/Queenfish family!

:sf:::

 

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Reefs - I hear ya mate.... The Carangoides is a monster... with some of the coolest fishies in it.....

Bl00dy confuzzling, but fun none the less.... something more learned and enjoyed!!! !!

 

[Dorado75]

[color=#0066cc]Reefman[/color] wrote:

And here is the Longfin Amberjack - Seriola Rivoliana

 

Hey Reefman, thanks for all the info here.... but now you have confused me, because the fish that i caught looks just like the one that you posted here, so now did i catch a Tropical Yellowtail or was it a Longfin Amberjack. Wanna kick myself for not having my camera handy!!

 

[Dorado75]

Talking about yellowtain now..... have you guys seen any of those Giant yellowtail that come from Mount Vema off the West coast? I have seen fish come off the commercial boats over 50kg, dont have any pics though! That is also a different species to the common Yellowtail we find off our coast i think?

 

[Foxhat]

Dorado

That fish you holding is definitely a rainbow runner. I catch a lot off our rig in block 15.
They are good eating and get up to 12 kg, being about my biggest. Every now and then I get one off the buoy but under the galley where they throw the waste food, they are wild. I just put a fillet of tuna out and you go on straight away. They really strong. In Mozambique at the fishing ski comps we catch the same fish on drop shot.

 

[dugongboy]

I wasen't going to add this name to the 'mixypotofconfusionwithregardstofishnames' but a lot of ski boaters north of Durban also call them 'sangora'

 

[Reefman]

[color=#006600]Dorado75[/color] wrote:

[color=#0066cc]Reefman[/color] wrote:

And here is the Longfin Amberjack - Seriola Rivoliana

 

Hey Reefman, thanks for all the info here.... but now you have confused me, because the fish that i caught looks just like the one that you posted here, so now did i catch a Tropical Yellowtail or was it a Longfin Amberjack. Wanna kick myself for not having my camera handy!!

OK I think I sorted this one out... did some reading and research... spoke to JT in Mafia.

The Longfin Amberjack is Seriola rivoliana -  aka Longfin Yellowtail; Tropical Yellowtail; Almaco Jack.
NB: This fish only occurs in waters North of Knysna in the Western Indian Ocean - circumtropical. Is not found south of Knysna, nor in the Atlantic.

The true (greater) Amberjack is Seriola dumerili  - the younger fish have a dark stripe going through the eye. As the fish gets older, the dark line fades to a mere shadow... The one in my pic is a proper Amberjack. The younger, smaller species are very difficult to distinguish from the Longfin, but the bigger species are distinct.
Found Indo-central Pacific, Persian Gulf to Algoa Bay and also in the Atlantic.

The 2 species are almost identical - the greater Amberjack has shorter dorsal and anal fin lobes and has a wider upper jaw than the Longfin.

2c.

 

 

 

[Patrick]

Hey Dorado, guys we were chatting to one day whilst hauling chokka at buffels said all the tail at Vema have been wiped out by trawlers. Dunno if its true and surely hope not coz its one of things on my do before you die list!

Nepps, is that Mark Lange's toppie? Probably is, those guys practically have scales growing on them they're so good at hauling fish.

 

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[color=#006600]Patrick[/color] wrote:

Nepps, is that Mark Lange's toppie? Probably is, those guys practically have scales growing on them they're so good at hauling fish.

Pat - Surprisingly not!!! I actually think Mike is Mike "Lang", not  "Lange".... I went to school with Mark's younger brother Andrew ( Roosta ) and grew up on the beach with them.... They certainly can fish, no doubt about that!!!

 

 

[Dorado75]

[color=#0066cc]Reefman[/color] wrote:

[color=#006600]Dorado75[/color] wrote:

[color=#0066cc]Reefman[/color] wrote:

And here is the Longfin Amberjack - Seriola Rivoliana

 

Hey Reefman, thanks for all the info here.... but now you have confused me, because the fish that i caught looks just like the one that you posted here, so now did i catch a Tropical Yellowtail or was it a Longfin Amberjack. Wanna kick myself for not having my camera handy!!

OK I think I sorted this one out... did some reading and research... spoke to JT in Mafia.

The Longfin Amberjack is Seriola riviolina -  aka Longfin Yellowtail; Tropical Yellowtail; Almaco Jack.
NB: This fish only occurs in waters North of Knysna in the Western Indian Ocean - circumtropical. Is not found south of Knysna, nor in the Atlantic.

The true (greater) Amberjack is Seriola dumerili  - the younger fish have a dark stripe going through the eye. As the fish gets older, the dark line fades to a mere shadow... The one in my pic is a proper Amberjack. The younger, smaller species are very difficult to distinguish from the Longfin, but the bigger species are distinct.
Found Indo-central Pacific, Persian Gulf to Algoa Bay and also in the Atlantic.

The 2 species are almost identical - the greater Amberjack has shorter dorsal and anal fin lobes and has a wider upper jaw than the Longfin.

2c.

 

 

Thanks Reefman, so i guess this settles the matter and it was a Greater Amberjack that i caught and not a tropical Yellowtail! Thanks a lot for doing a bit of research there for me!!! You the man!!

 

[Dorado75]

[color=#006600]Foxhat[/color] wrote:

Dorado

That fish you holding is definitely a rainbow runner. I catch a lot off our rig in block 15.
They are good eating and get up to 12 kg, being about my biggest. Every now and then I get one off the buoy but under the galley where they throw the waste food, they are wild. I just put a fillet of tuna out and you go on straight away. They really strong. In Mozambique at the fishing ski comps we catch the same fish on drop shot.

It was Tuna that posted the pic of the Rainbow runner not me, we also have millions of them around the FPSO and they eat any crap that is thrown out by the catering dept, have not caught many though, they have really small mouths and i mainly troll rubber squids for the bigger fish!

 

[dugongboy]

[color=#0066cc]Reefman[/color] wrote:

Ya bru... methinks I'm confuzzed seriously now... I think having looked at that species now that it's not a Longfin... Smith's encyclopedia also seems to confuse a few species and the name Tropical Yellowtail doesn't even appear on Fishbase?!?!?

what amazes me is that all these Seriolas form part of the Carangoides family... GT/Kingfish/Leeries/Queenfish family!

:sf:::

To all interested - the latest Ski Boat mag has an article on these fish (Seriolas)

 

[StangV2_0]

Reviving a very old thread here but I am curious..

Did I catch a Tropical Yellowtail here? Was caught on a small Chiselnose plug (as in picture) from the side. This was in Port Elizabeth fishing in Wildside area.

 

[Dr halibut hoffman]

Sure looks similar to one? When was that caught? Late summer I have caught them just up the drag from there once a few years ago.. refering to "Seriola riviolina".

Very interesting..I have mates that have tried on the wildside PE without much luck but it must have its day

 

[StangV2_0]

Dr halibut hoffman wrote:

Sure looks similar to one? When was that caught? Late summer I have caught them just up the drag from there once a few years ago.. refering to "Seriola riviolina".

Very interesting..I have mates that have tried on the wildside PE without much luck but it must have its day

It was actually a few months back just posted it now when I saw this thread. So if I recall correctly it was about the beginning of the year in the summer months.

I was fishing the spot with a local who grew up fishing the same area and he said he had never seen one caught from the side like that. others have also told me its a rare fish to catch.

Fish was safely eaten..

 

[nantes]

imported post

 

[moby28]

I got one at the Breede River, on spoon.

 

[StangV2_0]

Nice!