The umpteenth trace bitten thru

TRAVY B

Sealiner
BigBen wrote:
TRAVY B wrote:
BigBen wrote:
TRAVY B wrote:
BigBen wrote:
TRAVY B wrote:
BigBen wrote:
TRAVY B wrote:
I made 40lb traces for these buggers but the way you are talking sounds like I must change my strategy. Got thick deep sea trace at home. Maybe I must make some of those traces for back up. If that don't work then I must then use my dog's choke chain LOL.
Daar's nie baie tyd om hulle te target nie. Nice Avatar....

Thanx. That's my son 2 years ago. He is slowly getting into the fishing.

I hope I get one of that big elf before they trek up North to Durban. It's sqeaky bum time before the cold sets in.
When the 1st NW hits CT I'll pm you the spot....LoL:hyst::hyst::hyst:

I wont mind. Any advice is good advice. It will give me a couple of months to work on my traces. Ek hou vir jou dop die week.
Read my lips...:(:(:(

I will give you a tip. Bend your J-hook slightly so that the sharp part is facing approximately at 1 o'clock from the eye. Just remembered that now. Come to think about it I never checked my new hooks. Maybe that's why I'm blanking recently.
Think U missing the POINT...:hyst::hyst::hyst:

Hulle byt die trace af man..Hook en Al.....:fbash:fbash

Miskien vang jy n' twelf LOL.
 

Albatross

New member
Hi,

Try 2.5 mm weedeater nylon, i'v caught lots of elf like this, never had a bite off on this! A lot of the "PE Elf-specialists "use this!
 

jb2

Sealiner
kraken wrote:
Yeah, good point. Will be giving the flouro more of a bash on next months trip, so will have a firmer idea of its capabilities. If damage is too bad, we just rety hook anyway as per offshore. Heavy gauge flouro is incredibly tough material. I don't like wire anyway, it reminds me too much of my shark fishing days...........bwahahahahahaha!!!!

Hi kraken

I was on a charter boat catching snoek and the skipper tied on that heavy flouro.

(I was the "deckie"/ assistant vlekker. And to think those Kalk Bay days are considered wasted.)

You cold see where the snoek had nicked the line but it held and even allowed us to pull a snoek out of a seal's mouth.

On another note. Are you seriously telling me that people catch sharks for money. Like to sell... for meat...

Where will it end.

 
 

wille jan

New member
Hi chaps. Catching big shad in the thithi kama with 10/12 banded xxl shank and i do still heave them up the stones. Might drop 1 in10.
 

Kenty

Sealiner
BigBen wrote:
TRAVY B wrote:
BigBen wrote:
TRAVY B wrote:
I made 40lb traces for these buggers but the way you are talking sounds like I must change my strategy. Got thick deep sea trace at home. Maybe I must make some of those traces for back up. If that don't work then I must then use my dog's choke chain LOL.
Daar's nie baie tyd om hulle te target nie. Nice Avatar....

Thanx. That's my son 2 years ago. He is slowly getting into the fishing.

I hope I get one of that big elf before they trek up North to Durban. It's sqeaky bum time before the cold sets in.
When the 1st NW hits CT I'll pm you the spot....LoL:hyst::hyst::hyst:
:spite:f1shy:f1shy:f1shy:f1shyb_r_a_a_i...Dont worry I will keep them busy.....:SSS..Oops sorry one over quota....:SSS:f1shy
 

Fishbait

Senior Member
Wil jy dan niks by die see oorkom nie? :fbash

Die Elwe is nie van hier rond nie. hulle byt draad skoon af!

Think I mentioned that in a previous post. But when Elf are biting the only thing we have on our minds are to bait up and cast again. Also happened to me last Saturday morning on the low.

Still had good fun though!
 
I don't use steel for Elf at all....caught and released 10 one night in Struis on the same piece of 1mm mono hook snoot.....granted it was pretty well stuffed after that! It was the T-line 1mm leader.
 

RINEX

Sealiner
Next time when your children eat lolly pops,keep those plastic tubes when they done.Slide it down your steeltrace/nylon till against the hook,tie your float just above it.After your four Elf, your trace will still be ok that is if you really done.. hehehe

Remember that puffer fish can also nibble your line through without you feeling any tugs.As someone said, always inspect your trace for damages.
 

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You sure its elf that keeps biting you off? I hardly ever use any steel whilst fishing for elf and 1 out of like more than 10 fish will bite me off... On my last trip last month I caught 7 elf on 0.70 kingfisher line coz I ran out of 1mm when I got bitten off for the first time...

Reel them in fast don't give them chance, they should tail dance on the surface then you know you doing it right lol

what hook do you fish with? VMC 6/0 Long shank is boss!
 

kraken

Senior Member
jb2 wrote:
kraken wrote:
Yeah, good point. Will be giving the flouro more of a bash on next months trip, so will have a firmer idea of its capabilities. If damage is too bad, we just rety hook anyway as per offshore. Heavy gauge flouro is incredibly tough material. I don't like wire anyway, it reminds me too much of my shark fishing days...........bwahahahahahaha!!!!

Hi kraken

I was on a charter boat catching snoek and the skipper tied on that heavy flouro.

(I was the "deckie"/ assistant vlekker. And to think those Kalk Bay days are considered wasted.)

You cold see where the snoek had nicked the line but it held and even allowed us to pull a snoek out of a seal's mouth.

On another note. Are you seriously telling me that people catch sharks for money. Like to sell... for meat...

Where will it end.

 

I only fin sharks these days jb2. Its much kinder. You can take what you need and still release the shark alive. We don't cut all the fins off either. That would be cruel.
Its those silly longlinres we pass while running out to the tuna grounds that concern me.
Who in gods name would eat a blue shark?
Anyway, they do a good job in keeping the blues at bay. Sometimes.
I get positively demonic when I see a blueshark in the chumline and things get ugly.......

Anyway, back to topic.

Speaking of Kalk Bay, when we used to fish the Ooswal for kob, geelbek, stump and what have you, Elf were often dik as flies.
Never ever used a wire on our handlines, and caught bins of the stuff.
Like catching barbel.
 

jaccil

Senior Member
I also use thick fluorocarbon as bite trace (about 10cm-15cm) which I tie onto my longer thinner hook trace. As soon as I see the trace is badly damaged, I tie on a new piece of FC. The hardest possible FC you can find will be best, but Maxima can also do the trick. Long-shank hooks can also reduce the damage to the bite trace, so you don't have to replace the bite trace as frequently.
 

BigBen

Sealiner
Where we find these Elf is die goed skelm.I use 4/0 long shank mustad.These Elf swallow your bait dat die prop teen sy bek sit en byt jou af.

Have a look @ where the trace was bitten off. From hook to prop trace is aprx.12cm

@ Upcumming Star..I know 4 sure it's Elf...here's a pic this one was 48cm
 

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jaccil

Senior Member
Ben, kan jy nie jou prop bo-oor die swivel/knoop trek nie? dan kan hy nie die lyn beetkry nie... Hier byt hulle darem nie heeltemal so skelm nie. Ek gebruik 'n ligte bottel sinker, hou my stok plat en vang met die gevoel van 'n handlyn. Die oomblik as hy by die aas is weet ek dit en sodra hy my sinker begin skuif (inbring) kap ek vas.
 

BigBen

Sealiner
jaccil wrote:
Ben, kan jy nie jou prop bo-oor die swivel/knoop trek nie? dan kan hy nie die lyn beetkry nie... Hier byt hulle darem nie heeltemal so skelm nie. Ek gebruik 'n ligte bottel sinker, hou my stok plat en vang met die gevoel van 'n handlyn. Die oomblik as hy by die aas is weet ek dit en sodra hy my sinker begin skuif (inbring) kap ek vas.

Jaccil ek dink hierdie seisoen is dit vir my maar net buitengewoon baie afbyte.

Waar ek hulle vang is die bodem baie rotsagtig...As jy hom kap sit jou sinker vas as jy hom mis.En mens voel hulle nie eintlik met stil NW wind nie want die aas beweeg nie so baie in die water vir daai gryp beweeging nie.Hulle kom nie naby my lyn nie.Daai strop is afgebyt op die coated steel.

Daar is wel baie aas vissies inie water wat hulle daar bring opie NW. Jy moet ook 'n 5oz sinker gebruik om oor die riwwe te vis so 'n ligter sinker help nie.

Man dis nog steeds te lekker want om 4 uit 8-9 vatte te land mbt grootes is steeds die lekkerste hengel.

Dis 40pb coated steel trace wat so geskud en deur gebyt word.

Liewer dit as BLANK:hyst::hyst: Kanie wag vir die volgende NW met 18-19 Degr water temp. LEKKER...Het nou piano wire gekry en so 3 traces gemaak.
 

Def-e-nition

Sealiner
rinex wrote:
Next time when your children eat lolly pops,keep those plastic tubes when they done.Slide it down your steeltrace/nylon till against the hook,tie your float just above it.After your four Elf, your trace will still be ok that is if you really done.. hehehe

Remember that puffer fish can also nibble your line through without you feeling any tugs.As someone said, always inspect your trace for damages.

Brilliant Rinex . Brilliant ! best idea I've heard of in AGES !!!!!!!!!!!!

::S
 

PatrickC

Senior Member
I use those same sticks when using a skelm hook, the advantage is that the hook is still free when baiting up but when you strike to set the hook the skelm hook doesn't slide all the way to the bottom hook.

I've got loads of these sticks by the way, R27 for 50 if anyone wants.
 
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