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Marthin

Sealiner
Christen-tydskrifte verbode in Woolies
2010/10/19 09:56:00 PM

Christene dreig om die winkelgroep Woolworths te boikot oor ’n besluit om nie langer Christelike tydskrifte te verkoop nie.

Dit beteken lesers sal tydskrifte soos Lig, Juig, Joy en Lééf elders moet gaan koop.

Jean Oosthuizen, webmeester van die gespreksforum Kletskerk het gister op www.koerant.co.za geskryf ontstoke lesers van godsdienstige tydskrifte dreig om Woolworths te boikot totdat dié besluit herroep word.

’n Herrie daaroor woed ook op Facebook.

“Persoonlik gee van die tydskrifte my ook ’n yslike pyn, maar ek dink dit is verkeerd dat alle godsdienstige tydskrifte nou van die rakke verwyder word.

“Dan moet Woolworths alle ander tydskrifte met ’n kleiner sirkulasiesyfer ook van die rakke afhaal,” het Oosthuizen gesê.

Hy is ook die nuusredakteur van die Kerkbode.

Adri-Louise van Renen, redakteur van Lig, het gister bevestig dat sy oor die besluit van Woolworths ingelig is nadat hulle ’n e-pos van hul verspreider ontvang het.

“Ek wil nie die saak nou in die media dryf nie. Ek wil dit met Woolworths probeer uitklaar,” het Van Renen gesê.

Van Renen het in ’n brief aan haar lesers geskryf: “Alle sodanige tydskrifte word onmiddellik van hul winkelrakke verwyder.

“Die besluit lui soos volg: ‘Woolworths het ’n sakebesluit geneem om nie langer enige godsdienstige tydskrifte in voorraad te hou nie, met onmiddellike effek.

“Ons het reeds al ons winkels opdrag gegee om godsdienstige titels van die winkelrakke te verwyder,’ ” lui Van Renen se brief.

“Waarom sal Woolworths alle godsdienstige tydskrifte van hul rakke haal, maar hulle benut die bemarkingsgeleentheid van godsdienstige dae soos Kersfees en Paasfees tot hul eie voordeel?” sê Van Renen.

In antwoord op ’n vraag van ’n kliënt op Woolworths se Facebook-muur het ’n woordvoerder van die winkelgroep bloot gesê dat Woolworths hul algehele tydskrif-katalogus hersien en rasionaliseer.

Mnr. Simon Susman, hoofbeampte van Woolworths, het op navraag van Beeld gesê dit is strydig met die winkelgroep se beleid om godsdienstige en politieke tydskrifte te verkoop.

“Ons hersien tans alle tydskrifte wat Woolworths te koop aanbied.

“Ons sal voortgaan om tydskrifte van ons rakke te verwyder wat nie gewild onder kliënte is nie.

“Ons probeer om geen gemeenskap aanstoot te gee deur die beleid nie,” het Susman gesê.

kliek hier om die res van die storie te lees...



kliek hier om uit te vind oor hierdie en ander Beeld nuusbrief/we, of verwys-'n-vriend.
 

KLAASMAN

New member
Marthin wrote:
Craig it's in the papers... they are taking it off the shelves in SA.

To me it's easy, if they can't stock christian literature they can't expect my christian money.

They choose not to stock it, i chose not to shop there anymore.

I love democracy.
Waar dink jy gaan ons van daai lekka kerrievis kry, of het jy n resep?LOL
 
Ramz wrote:
Woolworths directors are being hipocrits. They want to ban religion from stores yet they are the first stores to market easter eggs and hot cross buns during Easter and all sorts of stuff at Christmas. All Christians should boycot this store.

It has been a long time since Easter and Christmas belonged to the church. They have been commercialized to the point of no return. Besides, was it not found that Jesus was actually NOT born on December 25!?!?

I think the time of mass action and Marthins Theory (something akin to "the black dollar") have a place in society but no place on fishing forums. To much emotion gets into these things and people lose focus. Remember with democracy comes many add-ons which not all of us will like. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion etc. Remember if you as a christian can demand to have your lit on the shelves then Muslims, Hindus etc. to have the right to have their lit stocked. Their are enough specialist stores in SA to cater for this market, no need for WW to try and compete!

Religion, and espescially christianity, is BIG money busines. I would rather NO Lit be sold and religion be taken back to it's roots. Back to a time that did not involve people like Billy Graham!!!!
 

Marthin

Sealiner
http://www.dieburger.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Christene-kap-Woolies-oor-godsdiens-20101019

Craig as for religion being big business... nowhere is there more money made than with same store selling "halaal" foods.

If one religion's needs can be fulfilled, then so should another.
 

Mouldz

Sealiner
Craig Van der Poll wrote:
I still think it is Spam, maybe we should get the facts straight before bad mouthing Woolworths. I just don't trust random emails!! Errol Naidoo has been known to be a bit of a sensationalist! Just look at his stance on certain current affairs! I wouldn't give him too much air time!
I dont think bad mouthing Mr Naidoo is on ,this man is on his own trying to stand against some of the insane policies our government wants to push through
 

speartackle

Senior Member
WW is overrated IMHO.  I must digress to ask how and why people can keep on admiring the perfect perishables in the stores. 

The freshest and most natural lettuce for example must be the one with a worm in it.  It will not thereby have any toxin / pesticide contained within.  Perfect fruit and veg must come at a cost.

As for the religious business, I will have to agree with Marthin on his take.
 

sparky2009

Senior Member
http://www.iol.co.za/news/south-africa/western-cape/christians-to-boycott-woolworths-1.687570

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Woolies-bans-Christian-mags-20101020
 
Marthin wrote:
http://www.dieburger.com/Suid-Afrika/Nuus/Christene-kap-Woolies-oor-godsdiens-20101019

Craig as for religion being big business... nowhere is there more money made than with same store selling "halaal" foods.

If one religion's needs can be fulfilled, then so should another.

I think you are confusing your issues here. One has to do with supplying food that meets a certain requirement for a certain group of people. Not all Woolies food is Halaal. but they do supply Halaal and Kosher food for purchase. If this were a problem then you should have boycotted them long ago for selling meat on Fridays! We are all grown ups here, how often did you go to your local Woolies to pick up your copy Christians weekly? all you have to do now is actually go to a Christian book store and buy it there! CUM Books (I giggle every time I see their store for that name!!) is quite big they have stores all over the place! Keep Religion away from Retail! I have no need to see a magazine telling me the latest happening is Qhaker land and just as much need to see a magazine with folks like Errol Naidoo on the cover telling me to repent!!
 

Mouldz

Sealiner
Its wierd how retail stores are against christian material,but come Christmas and Easter wh
ich are christian holidays ,they are quick to jump on the band wagon and make a quick buck
 
My final Stance....

Thanks for pointing out the articles I now see that it is indeed fact!

Religion is a personal choice in so far as how serious you want to take it if you pay any attention to it at all. By having religous material in mainstream retail outlets one can actually be infringing on the rights of people that are agnostic. Keep religion in religous stores and keep Woolworths and Pick 'n Pay for clothes and food shopping! I do not have an issue with WW removing the literature from their stores in fact I think it is the right thing to do in our rainbow nation! If one cannot please all the people all the time, and this is NOT possible, then in a situation as Woolworths finds itself take the most neutral road!
 

Mouldz

Sealiner
Anyone can walk into a book store and buy pornography off the shelves,or push a button on a computer and view porn sites,when christians want this stopped freedom of press is always thrown in their faces,but when christians want to have their material in stores or say something when its removed we are called zealots , freaks , fanatics and any other name Iesh its confusing in Africa
 

Marthin

Sealiner
Sorry mangi i don't agree. They have decided to not stock a product that caters for one religion. Hence my stance that they should then not cater for another religion with halaal food.

The muslim client can then also go to a halaal butchery for his/her products.

Fortunately for me, christianity is a non negotiable. If you decide not to cater for christians, then you've decided you don't need my couple of cents either.
 

Mangi

Sealiner
Marthin wrote:
Sorry mangi i don't agree. They have decided to not stock a product that caters for one religion. Hence my stance that they should then not cater for another religion with halaal food.

The muslim client can then also go to a halaal butchery for his/her products.

Fortunately for me, christianity is a non negotiable. If you decide not to cater for christians, then you've decided you don't need my couple of cents either.

I respect your stance 100%.

I have vowed never to comment on religion on an open forum so I am deleting my post.
 

zulu-X-treme

Sealiner
Well what an interesting thread, I always enjoy getting an insight into how people think about something like religion and how it impacts our society. Of course as has been said it can be difficult for some to control their emotions and remain calm throughout a discussion of this nature.

It seems the general concensus is let WW remove these types of literature and I must say I aggree. Either you please everybody (christians, muslims, hindu's, buddhists, wickers, taoists, pagans) or non at all.

How would you feel if your favourite piece of christian text was next to book or magazine on witch craft? As is the case in CNA (owned previously-been corrected, by 2 women who openly admitted to practising black magic).

Also it's important to note that christmas and easter have really nothing to do with the christianity. Unfortuantely man has been deceived.

Based on the story the following can be deduced, there were sheperds in the field, sheperds do not tend their flocks in Winter, there were not 3 wise men, we do not how many there were. Translating the Hebrew words, they found a young boy in the room, not a baby in the manger. When the so-called three wise men, who in fact were astrologers—visited, Jesus and his family were no longer living in a stable. Time had passed, and the family was living in a house. You will find it interesting to note this detail in the record at Matthew 2:1, 11.

Also it's important to recognise that these men were no as we would call today, christians. The Magi were not kings, but fortune-tellers and priests of a pagan religion. They came in line with their knowledge of the stars to which they were devoted. Had God wanted to guide them to the young child, they would have been led to the exact place without needing to go first to Jerusalem and to Herod's palace. Later on, God did intervene to alter their course to protect the child.

Also the christmas tree comes from a pagan celebration of the Winter Solstice, it can also be linked to the Yule log. And there's a few other points which I would rather not go into here.

The point is that WW or any other store is doing nothing wrong in 'milking' christmas or easter. What does chocolate eggs and rabbits have to do with easter anyway.

Choose wisely when supporting these holidays or any other holiday for that matter, halloween included.
 

BluFlu

Sealiner
Partys over - as per News24 Woolies has just retreated from its position and will be reinstating the mags.
 

Fin-S

Sealiner
As is the case in CNA (owned by 2 women who openly admit to practising black magic-check it) and bookstores alike.
Actually owned by EDCON, but don't let the facts distort your story.
 
Whats this got to do with fishing anyway, i think there would be even more of an outcry if they were to remove fishing mags from the shelves!!!

Every major war in the world has been caused by religion and religious differences, and religion has caused more deaths than anything else!!

Anyway whether woolworths removes religious mags from their shelves or not, doesnt bother me. If people really wanted the mags they could buy them online or at another shop!!

My 20p
 
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