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boepens

Sealiner
Bevid wrote:
As our beloved president of our lovely country would say. "I am glad a team from South Africa won". Well gedaan an die wen span. Dit was n paar dae se gooie en harde hengel gewees. Seker die manne gan nog lank praat van dag een. En net so terloops Klipvis. Daai grootes kry ek gereeld daar. Vir jou n stukkie bewys.
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That looks like a cobbie that washed up dead from old age bru :fbash:fbash:fbash:fbash
 
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pietman

Senior Member
Finale punte:
1 S/C - 1458.67
2 WP - 1390.01
3 EP - 1313.03
4 KZN 1309.94
5 BOLAND 1210.82
6 BORDER 1117.45
7 ZUL 706.77
8 C/G 549.09
9 G/N 541.16
10 MP 432.62
11 F/S 245.57
12 W/C 243.38
 
P

pietman

Senior Member
Protea Team


Manager: Dirk Lucas
Coach: Martin Dowie

... Anglers:

Theo Herbst - Border
Greg Brown - Border
Charl Marais - WP
Hannes Botha - S/C
Christo van den Berg - Boland
Gerhard Guse - Eastern Province
 
P

pietman

Senior Member
A-Nationals
ANGLER TEAM Total
1 Marais, Charl (SA0020) Western Province 533.75
2 Ferreira, Stefan (SA2679) Eastern Province 316.20
3 Dean Versfeld - SA4561 Western Province 311.57
4 De Beer, AJ (SA4204 ) South Cape 268.91
5 ROSEVEARE, C Kwa-Zulu Natal 268.65
6 Botha, JC (SA4215 ) South Cape 261.87
7 Mckenzie, Daryl (SA3370) Kwa-Zulu Natal 259.69
8 Lesch, Hendrico (SA4139 ) South Cape 225.17
9 Chris Van Zyl - SA4201 South Cape 219.69
10 Mong, PP (SA0056) Boland 211.62
11 Kemp, D (SA0279) Eastern Province 207.29
12 Vryenhoek, K (SA0048) Boland 203.86
13 Brown, Gregory (SA0143) Border 203.30
14 Van Der Berg, C (SA2053) Boland 192.57
15 Herbst, Theo (SA0138) Border 189.85
16 Pichard, D Eastern Province 185.48
17 Nortje, R (SA4141 ) South Cape 174.03
18 Catherine, Quinton (SA0052) Boland 157.86
19 Scheepers, R (SA1450) Zululand 157.23
20 Mack, D (SA0677) Kwa-Zulu Natal 153.15
21 Dames, Arno (SA0041) Boland 149.54
22 Carr, BD Zululand 145.28
23 Range, Charl (SA0151) Border 138.50
24 Davel, Martin (SA0770) Central Gauteng 136.78
25 Guse, Gerhard Eastern Province 136.71
26 Kyle, Robert Kwa-Zulu Natal 135.42
27 Hardiman, J Eastern Province 133.06
28 Richter, Owen (SA0158) Border 131.79
29 Spear ,Trent (SA2365) [U21 ] Central Gauteng 125.13
30 Sutherland, Greg Kwa-Zulu Natal 124.16
31 HAMMAN, JL Zululand 123.13
32 Gerber, JR (SA0758) Gauteng North 121.89
33 Allison, Louis (SA3280) Kwa-Zulu Natal 120.06
34 Pretorius, JF (SA0767) Gauteng North 118.59
35 PRETORIUS, A Mpumalanga 109.61
36 Gomes, Shane (SA1231) Western Province 109.08
37 Scribanti, Kobus (SA0862) Zululand 108.97
38 Le Grange, J (SA0035) Boland 104.08
39 Van Der Linde, N (SA2568) Eastern Province 97.98
40 Chris Bester - SA4373 Western Province 96.17
41 Stevens, G (SA0278) Eastern Province 90.12
42 van Zyl, Dion Western Province 87.77
43 Masters, Shawn Border 84.24
44 Van Der Westhuizen, J (SA0054) Boland 82.93
45 Basson, M (SA4252) West Coast 79.43
46 Hughes, C (SA1028) Central Gauteng 78.98
47 Van Tonder, Danie Free State 76.61
48 LABUSCHAGNE, W West Coast 76.55
49 Visagie, G.J. Mpumalanga 75.66
50 De wet,Stephen Mpumalanga 71.74
51 Heinrich Davids - SA2847 Gauteng North 71.49
52 Lesch, Ruan (SA4143) South Cape 69.26
53 Woodley, C (SA1435) Zululand 68.25
54 Goldsmith, R (SA0147) Border 66.87
55 Quayle, C Kwa-Zulu Natal 66.69
56 Campher, Ashley Western Province 65.30
57 Klokow, Bernie (SA0140) Border 64.40
58 Welman, W (SA0954 ) South Cape 63.90
59 Barnard, WF (SA0728) Gauteng North 61.65
60 Sumner, M (SA0131 ) South Cape 61.26
61 Achurst, Jacques Western Province 60.64
62 VAN REENEN, B Western Province 58.76
63 Kruuse, Jay (SA2176) Border 58.53
64 Lynch, MJ (SA0658) Kwa-Zulu Natal 58.50
65 Van Wyk, Phillip Central Gauteng 57.11
66 Dewing, Jarryd (SA2085) Border 55.54
67 Randall, Roland (SA0105) Border 55.01
68 Du Toit, C (SA0223) Eastern Province 54.92
69 Taylor, Loius Kwa-Zulu Natal 50.48
70 van Staden, Kobie Central Gauteng 49.61
71 Kruger, Jurg (SA2772 ) Free State 49.37
72 Naidoo, D (SA0675) Kwa-Zulu Natal 48.71
73 Mong, PJ (SA0057) Boland 48.63
74 Hurter, Jadri (SA0144) Eastern Province 47.51
75 Toni De Chana - SA4748 Free State 46.42
76 Brown, R Border 44.58
77 Janse van Rensburg, Isak Western Province 43.53
78 Boshoff, Jaco South Cape 43.23
79 Van Ee, Anton (SA0845) Mpumalanga 40.19
80 Phillip Barnard - SA4790 Gauteng North 37.13
81 Marc Rubelli - SA4669 Central Gauteng 34.23
82 Cloete, George Mpumalanga 33.54
83 Van Niekerk, G (SA2929) [U21 ] Gauteng North 33.06
84 De Jager, DT (SA4136) South Cape 33.04
85 Van Der Poel, Abe (SA1143) Central Gauteng 32.76
86 Denny, S (SA0125) South Cape 31.21
87 Van Jaarsveldt, D Boland 30.52
88 Reddy, Dean Zululand 28.37
89 Swift, Paul Zululand 28.28
90 Van Staden, p.j Gauteng North 24.95
91 SAUERMAN Gauteng North 24.94
92 Peinke, Lester (SA0127) Border 24.84
93 Strydom, P Gauteng North 24.72
94 Mulder, Luke Mpumalanga 22.62
95 Molenaar, M (SA0294) Eastern Province 22.41
96 Philip Andrews - SA1432 Zululand 21.46
97 Engelbrecht, H (SA2034) Boland 20.21
98 Steenkamp, Braam West Coast 20.20
99 Van Den Berg, L.C. Mpumalanga 19.67
100 Rundle, John Free State 19.10
101 Engelbrecht, Headley West Coast 18.97
102 Olivier, G.J Free State 18.69
103 Naicker, A (SA0630) Western Province 18.59
104 VISAGIE, H.J Mpumalanga 16.94
105 Papenfus, HFD (SA0763 ) Central Gauteng 16.22
106 Visagie, H.J. Mpumalanga 15.54
107 Botha, JMC (SA0361) Mpumalanga 14.85
108 D'Offay, C (SA1445) Zululand 14.57
109 Meyrs, A (SA0231) Eastern Province 13.73
110 Jacobs, Shaun (SA0671) Kwa-Zulu Natal 13.36
111 Thurling, A (SA4281) West Coast 13.35
112 Loomes, JC (SA0757) Gauteng North 12.22
113 Marcel Goldstone - SA2710 Free State 12.12
114 Dowie, Martin (SA1048) Central Gauteng 11.07
115 Naidoo, Dean (SA3744) Kwa-Zulu Natal 11.07
116 Brand, W (SA1533) West Coast 10.15
117 Liversage, D.B. Mpumalanga 10.11
118 Walthers, Deon Free State 8.00
119 Baxter, Greg Eastern Province 7.62
120 Karsten, R (SA1539) West Coast 7.23
121 Wayne Spear - SA2364 Central Gauteng 7.20
122 Van Zyl, F (SA4708) South Cape 7.10
123 Smit Gauteng North 5.94
124 Van Heerden, Adriaan (SA0847) Free State 5.52
125 Visser, Morne Western Province 4.85
126 Le Roux, Jc (SA4624) Zululand 4.73
127 Theron, JB (SA0863) Free State 4.70
128 Kruger, JG (SA0735) Gauteng North 4.58
129 Boutcher, Craig West Coast 3.72
130 Willemse, Nardus West Coast 3.40
131 Beukes, Phillipus Johannes (SA5679) Zululand 3.29
132 Tedder, Barry (SA1417) Zululand 3.21
133 Treurnicht, E West Coast 2.88
134 Barries Barnard - SA2766 Free State 2.68
135 Van Eeden, Johan (SA4271) West Coast 2.68
136 Groenewald, Coenie (SA4544) West Coast 2.66
137 Wait, Buks Free State 2.36
138 VILJOEN, M.M West Coast 2.16
139 MAHOMED, H Mpumalanga 2.15
 
J

JL

Senior Member
Thanks Pietman,
when I posted, the results were not yet available on SASAA's website, but I see they've updated their website. But thanks anyway for your response. I just don't understand how selections are made sometimes. I know it's based on 50/30/20-basis for the last 3 years, but some anglers are ranked 2nd according to this criteria, but is only selected to the President's Team. Shouldn't this ranking be the determining factor for the selection of the teams? So, if you are ranked 1-6, you should automatically be selected for Protea Colors. I know it's a very simplistic way of looking at it, but shouldn't this be the case? I know you can have a bad tournament, but the selection on the 3-year ranking basis is exactly the reason why this shouldn't influence your selection. Confusing.
 
J

Jackal

Senior Member
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I think you must have fished for a presidents side first before you are eligible for a protea team in the senior devision.
 
F

ferrars

New member
It was explained to me that the 1st 4 over 3 years makes the side the from 5 to 12 they choose 2 guys. My opinion, the side they chose are all great anglers and fit for the team....
 
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pietman

Senior Member
Ja ok as far as Iknow it works like this.
The choosen team must be out of the the top 12 anglers on the three year points ranking. The previous years Protea anglers will have a advantage if they did perform on the internationals and is in the top 12 rankings. The top 3 anglers on the 3 year rankings should be in the team if available.
 
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JL

Senior Member
Please don't misunderstand me. I don't have a problem with any of the anglers chosen for the Protea or President Team. They're all excellent anglers and all of them deserve to be in the team. They've all proven themselves for several years now.
My question is: Shouldn't your ranking over 3 years be the determining factor for selection to the Protea Team, irrespective of whether you've previously been selected to the Protea or President's Team? This proves that you've consistently performed over a 3-year period, or is this just a too simplistic way of looking at it?
If you look at the President A Team, guys like Greg Sutherland and R Scheepers probably didn't have the best of tournaments, but they're ranked 2nd and 6th over a 3-year period respectively. If you look at their 2012 rankings, they were ranked 6th and 9th respectively. R Scheepers have already been selected to the President A Team in 2012. On the other hand, if you look at the rankings of the guys selected for the Protea Team Greg Brown (1), Theo Herbst (3), Christo v/d Berg (4) Charl Marais, (5), Gerhard Guse (10) and Hannes Botha (11), is there anyone that didn't deserve his place? MOST DEFINATELY NOT. The guys that are ranked in the top 6 choose themselves. Gerhard Guse is a legend and was ranked 1st in 2012. Hannes Botha is also a Protea angler (selected in 2011). There are also several other anglers that were previously in the Protea and President A Team, that are all excellent anglers and perhaps didn't have the best of tournaments. However, they would all be an asset to any Protea or President Team. Hence my question, shouldn't the 3-year ranking be the determining factor?
 
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