Stem 100% saam met jou MC!Hi steelpulse, that isnt the greatest of advice in my opinion. You are basically telling ppl to go to a venue to fail. And in the process deposit 1000's of meters of broken off lines in the water. They might not come back, but others who do know how to fish there will be left losing fish and getting snagged on the lines left behind.
If there is one thing I have learnt, and can pass onto others is this: Your fishing time is limited and precious as it is, so why waste your time and money and go fishing unprepared??? Do the homework, get the right kit so that you can have the best chance to catch something.
There is nothing wrong with taking advice from people who have been there and know what its about. it doesnt make you less of an angler either.
Hi steelpulse, that isnt the greatest of advice in my opinion. You are basically telling ppl to go to a venue to fail. And in the process deposit 1000's of meters of broken off lines in the water. They might not come back, but others who do know how to fish there will be left losing fish and getting snagged on the lines left behind.
If there is one thing I have learnt, and can pass onto others is this: Your fishing time is limited and precious as it is, so why waste your time and money and go fishing unprepared??? Do the homework, get the right kit so that you can have the best chance to catch something.
There is nothing wrong with taking advice from people who have been there and know what its about. it doesnt make you less of an angler either.
I understand your point, However how would the new guys ever build up experience if they never get to fish the bigger dams.
If I understand you correctly, you're saying you dont condone being nasty to newcomers, but you understand why it happens & you dont blame the guys for doing it? I might be wrong, but one has to stand by his convictions, if you dont condone something, then you must condemn it, especially if the person on the receiving end supposedly does not deserve it, you cant have it both ways. I can certianly understand why specimen anglers are hesitant about revealing their methods, considering the hard work that goes into it, & even more so if the 'student' does not place equal value in what is being taught, fair enough. We must however still place a high value on the fundamental human aspect, respect goes a long way, & there should be no reason to be condescending. We can also not paint everyone with the same brush. If one person abuses the discipline, do you immediately make the assumption that any newcomer will do the same & therefore he should be lambasted, until he (or she) proves themselves worthy? Once again, humanity encompasses respect, and by that I mean basic respect, the dignity of the guy next to you. Respect is earned in a profession, a discipine such as specimen angling, conventional angling also believe it or not, but on a basic level, our humanity should dictate that we preserve the next person's dignity, by not being condescending or disrespectful.steelpulse, i hear what you are saying. But I also know where some of the negatively charged comments come from. It happens more and more these days that ppl see big carp being caught, and they then get excited and also want to catch some (which is great). So they go onto a specimen forum (or sometimes dont bother), but then sees what goes into fishing at such venues and what gear you need etc. And for some reason alot of ppl get so easily offended, rather than be open to it, when experienced anglers try and give them advice or help them right, on these forums.
They then decide bugger that, I dont need all that, I can do it with my 6lb line and will do it my way. The end result is all thats been mentioned about lost fish, broken off lines etc. And it ends with frustration by those who are trying their best to educate and help ppl, and who are then left with the after-effect of those who've tried and failed because they didnt want to take onboard what experienced guys who spend alot of time on these forums, have tried to tell them.
So allthough I dont at all agree that anyone on the forum should be nasty to newcomers or anyone seeking info, I do understand why there is sometimes a reluctance to give out info, be it abit discouraging as well.... Personally I would also not support or encourage anyone to fish such places where you need to be geared up, unless the person has made the effort to get the righ kit. Remember big carp fishing is not bass fishing that you can do with justabout any rod and line, big carp are much stronger and need the gear to match it.
The problem is also often that ppl think we are mad and over-sensitive about how we fish and how best to fish for big carp. We might be abit mad, but we also know what it involves to try catch these leviathans of the deep. Take the time to see why we are sometimes abit hesitant about such things, there is always a good reason for it...
The guys i know that have kept an open mind, taken the advice given and put it to good use, have reaped the rewards, and still do.
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