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Roff - my call would be: 1stly that the line is old... vrot. 2nd, that you're not gobbing on the knot when you're making it, pulling tight causing too much friction and a burn in the line.
But, if your knot's working well on the other line you mentioned, and you can break the line with your hands... something is wrong with the line....
But, if your knot's working well on the other line you mentioned, and you can break the line with your hands... something is wrong with the line....
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Are you using a bimini or a spider hitch to double your mainline before u attach your leader? Sounds silly but its rather important in the whole equation...
I was having a similar problem last year and found that my problem was just bad knots,was getting so pissed off that I went to KF and told to not sell me junk.
Also thought it was the KF line until the guys at KF themselves proved that it was me being the dof one.
I humbly appologised after being like an idiot.Hey I spent some good bucks there so at least they forgiven me.
Also thought it was the KF line until the guys at KF themselves proved that it was me being the dof one.
I humbly appologised after being like an idiot.Hey I spent some good bucks there so at least they forgiven me.
Ah Roff... there's your problem bud. I was assuming you were doing Bimini/Fig 8.
Line to big leader - the rationale is that you want a join that will be as strong as your weakest point (ie your mainline). If the knot made is as strong as the mainline, you can't get better than that right?
With 0.35 (20-25lb) line... if you make a straight fig 8 to the leader, you will have (at best) an 85% strength join. ie your knot will break at about 16-17lb if it was done perfectly.
In comes the Bimini... which makes a double line of your mainline... with the double line of the mainline, you now do a Fig 8 to the leader - that knot made is now stronger than your mainline strength because it is doubled. If anything is going to break it will be your mainline, not the Knot! The other great thing about the Bimini is the amount of "give" or stretch it allows... it's amazingly forgiving...
So sorry boet, if you want to do it properly, just learn the Bimini.... you will never turn back.
Line to big leader - the rationale is that you want a join that will be as strong as your weakest point (ie your mainline). If the knot made is as strong as the mainline, you can't get better than that right?
With 0.35 (20-25lb) line... if you make a straight fig 8 to the leader, you will have (at best) an 85% strength join. ie your knot will break at about 16-17lb if it was done perfectly.
In comes the Bimini... which makes a double line of your mainline... with the double line of the mainline, you now do a Fig 8 to the leader - that knot made is now stronger than your mainline strength because it is doubled. If anything is going to break it will be your mainline, not the Knot! The other great thing about the Bimini is the amount of "give" or stretch it allows... it's amazingly forgiving...
So sorry boet, if you want to do it properly, just learn the Bimini.... you will never turn back.
I used the Bimini knot like Reefman suggests,had issues with getting this right too,the guys at KF showed it to me once.
Then I praticed a few times more with no luck,I eventually just bought a damn DVD for knots and I still have some issues now and then but getting it right.
Dont have a chance to fish as much as you guys down there.
Then I praticed a few times more with no luck,I eventually just bought a damn DVD for knots and I still have some issues now and then but getting it right.
Dont have a chance to fish as much as you guys down there.
Hi there Rofflign,
I changed to KF Giant Abrasion recently and suffered a spate of line popping! Used .40mm as my mainline up from .35mm and couldn't figure why it was still popping! First up, KF GA that's nicked or scraped may hold up to a degree while fighting a fish or reeling in but use that same line and it will pop under a heavy cast.
My solution was to add a .50mm leader joined to mainline by ordinary blood knot. Make sure there are 2 turns of leader on reel before a cast to absorb most of the pressure. If KF/GA comes out the water nicked or scraped, change before next cast and when joining M/line to leader, tighten the knot slowly and keep lubricated until tight. If KF is treated carefully it will serve u well without making a giant abrasion in your pocket.
Cheers,
I changed to KF Giant Abrasion recently and suffered a spate of line popping! Used .40mm as my mainline up from .35mm and couldn't figure why it was still popping! First up, KF GA that's nicked or scraped may hold up to a degree while fighting a fish or reeling in but use that same line and it will pop under a heavy cast.
My solution was to add a .50mm leader joined to mainline by ordinary blood knot. Make sure there are 2 turns of leader on reel before a cast to absorb most of the pressure. If KF/GA comes out the water nicked or scraped, change before next cast and when joining M/line to leader, tighten the knot slowly and keep lubricated until tight. If KF is treated carefully it will serve u well without making a giant abrasion in your pocket.
Cheers,
Guys please read this...
http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=1452&forum_id=44
Tests and statistics show that the Blood knot is a POOR alternative to the Bimini/Fig 8.
http://www.sealine.co.za/view_topic.php?id=1452&forum_id=44
Tests and statistics show that the Blood knot is a POOR alternative to the Bimini/Fig 8.
Nah, I haven't. Tell me more.
For the basics, I am a scientist... the way I look at things, numbers and stats back up theory. Then when the theory is applied, experience takes over... When a hundred Provincial anglers change from using the Bimini/Fig 8, so will I. Obviously things change, like the larger 1.2-1.5mm leaders... prompting guys to go with Wind on leaders etc. but for the time being... until the stats change... why change a good thing?
By the way... the PR knot was designed to work with braid... are you using it for nylon too now?!
For the basics, I am a scientist... the way I look at things, numbers and stats back up theory. Then when the theory is applied, experience takes over... When a hundred Provincial anglers change from using the Bimini/Fig 8, so will I. Obviously things change, like the larger 1.2-1.5mm leaders... prompting guys to go with Wind on leaders etc. but for the time being... until the stats change... why change a good thing?
By the way... the PR knot was designed to work with braid... are you using it for nylon too now?!