New Daiwa Saltiga 2020

Blikkiesvis

Sealiner
Wow how's this for a review!!!

One belief I've always held is that no reel is or will ever be perfect. There will always be room to improve or certain aspects that I could imagine ways to enhance. Even when I reviewed the 2014 Expedition, a reel I highly admire, I still criticised its messy spool shimming system and called it 'a pain'. Actually the fact that I've always found issues or deficiencies served to reassure me of my own fairness. Those who declare things 'perfect' are either the sponsored clowns at the forefront of every trade, or people who sincerely believe it but lack a full grasp of the subject. This is why the 2020 Saltiga put me through an identity crisis of sorts, having gradually come to the realisation that the only objective thing to say is something that I used to think could never be said objectively; this reel is utterly perfect in every aspect and on every level. Its design is perfect, its build is perfect, and its performance went beyond perfection and practically forced me to recalibrate my imagination and shift what I used to believe were the upper limits of what's achievable by a spinning reel.



Hobbyists and passionate collectors usually dream of an object that they can't possess, either due to its rarity or because it doesn't exist yet. An item of such greatness in one's mind that it takes an almost mythical value, ultimately being designated one's 'holy grail'. A term you'd be familiar with if you've spent any time among enthusiasts of things such as coins, timepieces, artwork, stamps, banknotes, guns, sports memorabilia, etc. This Saltiga is exactly this to me, the almost mythical item that I've always wished would one day exist, and now it finally does. Over hundreds of hours I made a special connection with this reel, and being a finely crafted item I still enjoy it even when it's not being used. Sometimes I take it out just to feel the smoothness of the rotation, spin the spool to hear its lovely strikes, or find new angles to admire the light reflection on that immersive deep blue finish. And as I type this article with the reel sitting on my desk looking clean and peaceful, I can't help but smile recalling that only days earlier it was covered in saltwater, fish blood, and my own sweat as the drag screamed braking the runs of one fish after another under a burning sun. My smile stems partially from the fond memories, but mostly from a deep sense of fulfilment that after a lifetime of looking I finally found it - my elusive holy grail.

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Kenty

Sealiner
;)..Ok..sorry , Im not sure who Alan is and respect to him or rather no dis respect to him...

BUT coffees are over complicated pieces of ....that demand exorbitant prices ...I mean really , IF one thinks about it , its not even a real fishing reel , I mean its so alien as to fishing , they are not of this world ...I think they originate from a planet where its inhabitants do not have thumbs...

I mean the Scarborough legends , with their amazing casting actions , who frequented the KZN South coast all those years ago , must be cringing in their graves OR covering their faces , those that are still with us ...when they see a complete novice go from NO to PRO in one fell swoop of a maxed out credit at a local tackle shop and walk out looking more blinging out than a hip hop pop star on opening night...

Lets look at this a bit...Sooo...should you fork our 3k on a multiplier , lets say a sized 40 reel and now while I may not be too in tune with prices these days BUT 3k will get you more than a decent reel , please correct me if I am wrong....NOW with this reel and lets not get into rods right now coz thats a WHOLE different bun fight alltogether...you will be able to go scratching...then go for EDs with bait AND still be able to go gooi some lures....NOW is the time to remeber ..WHILE fishing kit has , so called improved , reels n rods etc etc...the fish have just plodded on and the kob your grandfather caught in 1960 id the same type of kob you will catch today in 2020...I mean the kobbies havent morhed into some 16V twin turbo machine OR now they breed and have evolved with 4 100kw Tesla elecric motors attached to tail and pec fins...Nooooo....

BUT we now need a reel for micro fishing...a reel for kob between 1kg and 5kg...then another coffee for 6kg to 10kg and so on n on....AND lets not touvh the rods as i said as we may overload the Sealine servers here!!!...

Sooo...chommie has got his multiplier , new , and he is happly fishing along and catching here n there and even the odd nice sized sharks...

ENTER chommie 2 and he sees multiplier chommie and says ..hey bru Im gonna get me the BRAND new settle coffee ..its this n that and does that n this...off he goes and 3k later comes back with this shiny orb that got more plastic than n Asian car...whikle multiplier chommie is quietly fishing away and getting his odd fish here n there,,,

Coffee chommie is out n about and get himself all in a knot as he has his first experience with braid and wind...Sooo..after a frustrating 3 hours on his first session he packs up n goes home ...moers all the kit in his garage and does not give that new coffee even a hint of some freshwater...

That evening he is off to a chommies place for a lekker braai and some cold ales and the host chommies chommies are also there and now the host chommie is DA MAN coz he has been out with that LEGEND Boeps and we all know Boeps certainly knows his way around a shark or 2 and he certainly knows his way around multipliers especially the BIG BOYS....

NOW...this braai is getting in the groove ...fire is in full swing about 3 or 4 ales behind the wind and the meat is out and salads are slowly being brought forward...not quite chow time BUT the fishing talk is in the mix...

Coffee chommie is all about his first session and jislaaik ..these new grinders are the BOMB...blah blah blah de blah....Host chommie ..BOOM..suddenly cuts the convo and tunes..wag..ek gan uithaal en wys!!....he is into his garage and comes out carrying the lister piston in his hand ...the other chommies are LIKE ...WOW!!!...

He puts this BRUTE of a Lister on the table and its ooohhs...n aahhhs...jire my boet whats the PSI on this thing>>???...whats the drag pressure in pounds on this thing>>???...whats the line capacity with and without TOP SHOT ...??? and so it goes on for eternity until someone says ..hey bru the coals are ready...

A quick round of fresh ales are opened and the chommies move to the fire and the meat is one SSSzzz...Host chommkie calls them closer in a huddle ...he tunes ...ouens...this winch ..pulled a grey this morning...and now lets not forget ..while it was a grey ,,it was all of 4kgees...And the other chommies are like...Nooooooo...

Host chommies says ..ouens ...THIS has to be a must in your tackle box ...he then pulls them even in closer into the huddle...435 meters of line !!!!...thats what this baby can hold...35kg drag!!!...this baby will pull your Ford rager my boeta!!!

Now the WOWs go to %$#@!!!...

Host chommie pulls them now ever closer ...ouens get to the tackle shop NOW...they on special ..I got mine last week for 15k......Noooo..comes the response...and already Coffee chommie is brain is working out what and extra 15k will do to the payment on his bond!!!...

Anyhow..the meat is good ...very good and the ladies did a BEAUT job with the salads and while everyone is chilling with a lekker brandy n coke one of the chommies happens to be checking his FB and says ..HEY ouens check this out...

There is a pic of multiplier chommie posing with a lekker 2okg odd sweety and a short vid of the release...

Well the braai chommies say their good byes and each one now is skeeming...jislaaik...15k ...a bit above my pay grade BUT I NEED that reel to get me that big grey...

Well...true story???....I leave that up to you...




:cool:
 

Kenty

Sealiner
;)And then to add..THIS is a PROPER spinning reel....
 

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Spool-Song

Sealiner
So then a Vaalie moves down to the sea, and catches lots of nice pan fish with his light spinning bass rod and a 2500 Sienna. He’s been catching fish on grinders since he was 4 years old, and never had an issue. Then he checks out these legends on Sealine, and realises that real men fish multipliers, after all, check out the fish they are hauling out with them, real man eating sharks, the lot. So he gets himself a nice 40 multiplier, the fastest one there is assures the salesman, and while in the shop, he throws in a BeastMaster to boot.
The first stop is the local sports ground where he tries to copy the oaks on YouTube, pendulum casting to get that massive distance that you could never reach with a grinder in your wildest dreams. We know that nobody has ever won a distance casting event with a grinder.

Six frustrating hours spent untangling overwinds, and about 20 minutes of that was actual casting, but still there is hope, one cast landed the 8oz just over the opposite goal line, even though the rest of the throws barely landed 50m. And lets not mention the one break off… who knows in which suburb the 8oz broke free into. He’s now ready to hit the ocean… after he replaces all his line, which is buggered from all the over winds.

Now our Vaalie soon find out that if you think throwing an 8oz across a sports ground in ideal conditions was difficult, try fishing the ocean with wind and rocks and waves and twitching livebait, and if you try throw anything lighter than the rod rating, the f-ing beastmaster has about as much feel as a cast iron condom. So after several trips that almost result in suicide from frustration, and a lot more line down the toilet, the Vaalie hears of this magician who smokes Cuban Cigars, and in his spare time, he waves a magic wand over cursed multiplier reels and drives out the demons of overwinds with a few little magnets.

Back to sea he goes, full of hope, and things seem to be a bit better, after all spending 4 hours fishing and 1 hour dealing with overwinds is better than 1 hour of fishing and 4 hours of dealing with overwinds, but then night falls, and the overwind demon raises his ugly head and curses the reel, magnets and all.

The Beastmaster and the demon reel begin to gather dust in the cupboard, as the Vaalie rediscovers the joys of fishing light with a grinder, and actually catching a few, and then he thinks, what if they made better grinders, improve the gears, throw in a few sealed bearings etc They will never have the strength and hauling power of a multiplier, but hey, they cast reliably, accurately, and can throw any weight you like without overwinding. And the 40 multipler he’ll keep, in case he ever buys a boat, because that is what they were actually made for in first place.
 

rbacht

Sealiner
hahahahaha - thanks Kenty and Spool Song.

I had a lekker laugh now. 100% accurate. It comes down to each to their own.

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PS: I am worried about that 8oz still travelling over the houses!
 

willem wikkel spies

Moderator
Staff member
i have just 1x aspect which is still concerning for me.

the reel new is around R 21k retail.

so, why on earth, do you still need spacers under the spool to correct line laying?

i would think that for that kind of money, the reel should be perfect when bought.
and not need spacers.
 

Spool-Song

Sealiner
Some people prefer the line lay a bit forward and others a bit backward, to suit the line and their fishing style. I imagine the factory default is a standard flat line lay, and the options are for those who want to tweak things a bit.
 

PearlJam

Member
Some creative writers here! :)

I think Alan is always a good source to check if he has done a review on a reel. Straight forward no BS.

But yes I agree, to each their own. If someone can afford to buy an expensive reel and they like fishing with it (irrespective of specs) then that is great.

It is this debate in my head, I like good looking tackle, but always think of the fact that my usage is 2 - 3 weeks a year. So do I spend excessive money on something that I barely use just for how "good" it feels in hand? In my case no, but if I had the means, I probably would.

Also, the one channel I follow on YouTube (Brooksy) has switched from Shimano to Daiwa and has some proper usage feedback on the Saltiga. Based on his usage, it is worth the asking price seemingly.
 

Kenty

Sealiner
Spool-Song wrote:
So then a Vaalie moves down to the sea, and catches lots of nice pan fish with his light spinning bass rod and a 2500 Sienna. He’s been catching fish on grinders since he was 4 years old, and never had an issue. Then he checks out these legends on Sealine, and realises that real men fish multipliers, after all, check out the fish they are hauling out with them, real man eating sharks, the lot. So he gets himself a nice 40 multiplier, the fastest one there is assures the salesman, and while in the shop, he throws in a BeastMaster to boot.
The first stop is the local sports ground where he tries to copy the oaks on YouTube, pendulum casting to get that massive distance that you could never reach with a grinder in your wildest dreams. We know that nobody has ever won a distance casting event with a grinder.

Six frustrating hours spent untangling overwinds, and about 20 minutes of that was actual casting, but still there is hope, one cast landed the 8oz just over the opposite goal line, even though the rest of the throws barely landed 50m. And lets not mention the one break off… who knows in which suburb the 8oz broke free into. He’s now ready to hit the ocean… after he replaces all his line, which is buggered from all the over winds.

Now our Vaalie soon find out that if you think throwing an 8oz across a sports ground in ideal conditions was difficult, try fishing the ocean with wind and rocks and waves and twitching livebait, and if you try throw anything lighter than the rod rating, the f-ing beastmaster has about as much feel as a cast iron condom. So after several trips that almost result in suicide from frustration, and a lot more line down the toilet, the Vaalie hears of this magician who smokes Cuban Cigars, and in his spare time, he waves a magic wand over cursed multiplier reels and drives out the demons of overwinds with a few little magnets.

Back to sea he goes, full of hope, and things seem to be a bit better, after all spending 4 hours fishing and 1 hour dealing with overwinds is better than 1 hour of fishing and 4 hours of dealing with overwinds, but then night falls, and the overwind demon raises his ugly head and curses the reel, magnets and all.

The Beastmaster and the demon reel begin to gather dust in the cupboard, as the Vaalie rediscovers the joys of fishing light with a grinder, and actually catching a few, and then he thinks, what if they made better grinders, improve the gears, throw in a few sealed bearings etc They will never have the strength and hauling power of a multiplier, but hey, they cast reliably, accurately, and can throw any weight you like without overwinding. And the 40 multipler he’ll keep, in case he ever buys a boat, because that is what they were actually made for in first place.
:hyst::hyst::hyst:
 

Kenty

Sealiner
:cool:I dabble with servicing reels etc etc and have my few regulars ...BUT...just dont get involved with coffees ...not coz I cant Its just I dont want to...Sooo..I get one okie that insists coz he was refered to me and I tune OK..Its R500.00 for a service and ..heres me hoping he wont even reply and strues njannies this okie pitches up and brings his piston...

I tell you what , its all ally and aircraft grade stuff...DAMN!!...really SOLID looking...Soooo...what to do???...gotta put on my BEEG girl panties and service this piston...

He soma puts the 500 sheets in my hand there n then...

I put the piston on my bench ...pour a java and set about doing the service...FORTUNATELY I had the plans to this reel and the series BUT as you know ...in reality itys always different...well i take the main body apart and I remember he says the drag is not what it was when new...

As i slide the fixed spool off and take split the main casing ...I think I could have supplied the whole Cerebos factory with salt...I was SHOCKED to realise that this reel was still turning etc etc with that amount of build up in it...i mean at the time I think this reel was in the region of about 20k IF Im not mistaken....well I clean ..stripp..clean and so on n so on....once it was all stripped and clean I was looking at all the parts and realised ..no wonder these pistons are so expensive ...must take quite a few engineers to work this thing out...I replace the drags ...no less than 12 washers....and get it all together ...feeling super chuffed and about to test and the damn thing wont turn ...not a mm...joh..now i panic....I scout the plans and very soon realise I am missing a spring the size of a grain of rice!!!!....
I sit back and think...yes you got the word!!...

As I turn to look on my work bench...I see it stuck the the side of my grease jar....hehe...ayhow ..re strip re check ..re assemble and she was working like a treat...the owner comes and fetches ..goes fishing in Mozambique ...comes back ..shoes me pics of bonnies ..tuna..etc etc...and in the same breath hands over a suitcase of these reels...I tune ...sorry Bud...Im on leave from coffees!!!;)
 

willem wikkel spies

Moderator
Staff member
Kenty wrote:
:cool:I dabble with servicing reels etc etc and have my few regulars ...BUT...just dont get involved with coffees ...not coz I cant Its just I dont want to...Sooo..I get one okie that insists coz he was refered to me and I tune OK..Its R500.00 for a service and ..heres me hoping he wont even reply and strues njannies this okie pitches up and brings his piston...

I tell you what , its all ally and aircraft grade stuff...DAMN!!...really SOLID looking...Soooo...what to do???...gotta put on my BEEG girl panties and service this piston...

He soma puts the 500 sheets in my hand there n then...

I put the piston on my bench ...pour a java and set about doing the service...FORTUNATELY I had the plans to this reel and the series BUT as you know ...in reality itys always different...well i take the main body apart and I remember he says the drag is not what it was when new...

As i slide the fixed spool off and take split the main casing ...I think I could have supplied the whole Cerebos factory with salt...I was SHOCKED to realise that this reel was still turning etc etc with that amount of build up in it...i mean at the time I think this reel was in the region of about 20k IF Im not mistaken....well I clean ..stripp..clean and so on n so on....once it was all stripped and clean I was looking at all the parts and realised ..no wonder these pistons are so expensive ...must take quite a few engineers to work this thing out...I replace the drags ...no less than 12 washers....and get it all together ...feeling super chuffed and about to test and the damn thing wont turn ...not a mm...joh..now i panic....I scout the plans and very soon realise I am missing a spring the size of a grain of rice!!!!....
I sit back and think...yes you got the word!!...

As I turn to look on my work bench...I see it stuck the the side of my grease jar....hehe...ayhow ..re strip re check ..re assemble and she was working like a treat...the owner comes and fetches ..goes fishing in Mozambique ...comes back ..shoes me pics of bonnies ..tuna..etc etc...and in the same breath hands over a suitcase of these reels...I tune ...sorry Bud...Im on leave from coffees!!!;)

i agree, servicing multies is makliker!!!!!
daai pistons, eisch.

you need to have a engineering degree for them, then you can charge a engineering fee!!!!!
 
Blikkiesvis wrote:
Wow how's this for a review!!!

One belief I've always held is that no reel is or will ever be perfect. There will always be room to improve or certain aspects that I could imagine ways to enhance. Even when I reviewed the 2014 Expedition, a reel I highly admire, I still criticised its messy spool shimming system and called it 'a pain'. Actually the fact that I've always found issues or deficiencies served to reassure me of my own fairness. Those who declare things 'perfect' are either the sponsored clowns at the forefront of every trade, or people who sincerely believe it but lack a full grasp of the subject. This is why the 2020 Saltiga put me through an identity crisis of sorts, having gradually come to the realisation that the only objective thing to say is something that I used to think could never be said objectively; this reel is utterly perfect in every aspect and on every level. Its design is perfect, its build is perfect, and its performance went beyond perfection and practically forced me to recalibrate my imagination and shift what I used to believe were the upper limits of what's achievable by a spinning reel.



Hobbyists and passionate collectors usually dream of an object that they can't possess, either due to its rarity or because it doesn't exist yet. An item of such greatness in one's mind that it takes an almost mythical value, ultimately being designated one's 'holy grail'. A term you'd be familiar with if you've spent any time among enthusiasts of things such as coins, timepieces, artwork, stamps, banknotes, guns, sports memorabilia, etc. This Saltiga is exactly this to me, the almost mythical item that I've always wished would one day exist, and now it finally does. Over hundreds of hours I made a special connection with this reel, and being a finely crafted item I still enjoy it even when it's not being used. Sometimes I take it out just to feel the smoothness of the rotation, spin the spool to hear its lovely strikes, or find new angles to admire the light reflection on that immersive deep blue finish. And as I type this article with the reel sitting on my desk looking clean and peaceful, I can't help but smile recalling that only days earlier it was covered in saltwater, fish blood, and my own sweat as the drag screamed braking the runs of one fish after another under a burning sun. My smile stems partially from the fond memories, but mostly from a deep sense of fulfilment that after a lifetime of looking I finally found it - my elusive holy grail.

https://www.alanhawk.com/reviews/20STG.html

jY MAG NIE BEGEER NIE....;)
 

Echo7

Senior Member
Stop complaining. You multiplier and coffee okes know nothing, try a Scarborough latched to a blackfin with afterburner while you eating a sandwich or lighting a smoke.
Tell about your knuckles and that railway track on your thigh after a beer hahaha. :lol:1
 

Blikkiesvis

Sealiner
Well since were on the topic... Try hauling in 121 snoek on a handline with no vingerlappies on your fingers (because you spent all your previous days "snoekgeld" on brandy, had a proper celebration and forgot to pack them)

Then, the next morning you sanitise your cut and infected hands with some of the left over brandy and your at it again...
 
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