Mazeppa Report

Occie

Sealiner
Was at Mazeppa Bay for my annual trip the week after Easter.

After a long drive from P.E I Arrived at 2pm and after quickly unpacking and meeting up with Mandla we headed off for a quick drop shot session. Was quite quiet and didn’t get any bumps so decided to call it a day and start afresh early the next morning.

The next day started of at 5am and on the way to the island we came across Zola. I hadn’t been able to get hold of him before the trip and he said he doesn’t have anyone fishing with him for the week so asked him to join us.

So off the three of us went to the island. Baits went in quickly and we started to plug for some Garrick. Garrick were up to there usual tricks with shoals of fish lying within casting distance in the swell but refusing to chase anything thrown at them. After an hour or so we gave up and started the long wait for a pick up.

I didn’t take long before the first rod went but unfortunately the shark bit behind the head of the whole yellowtail.

It took a while for the next pickup but this time the circle found its mark and the fish was on. Fish was hooked on the left hand side of the island and made its way from left to right without taking any line. At the point on the right hand side it hit the current and went straight out and I realized this was a serious fish.

I had forgot to set my drag properly after storing my reels after the last trip so it took a while to get the right settings.

Zola looked and said the drag is to loose so we cranked it some more, and then some more….. about half way thru the fight the drag is fully locked and at some stages we have three hands on the spool trying to stop the run. T

This didn’t seem to phase the beast at all and it hardly skipped a beat while carrying on with its run. After a few minutes without it slowing down and my spool being steadily stripped with me starting to think of how we going to pop the 0.8mm top shot the fish stopped and either turned and bit back on the leader or reefed me. Was quite a clean cut thru the 1.9mm leader so not sure what exactly happened.

A little video of the submarine and how some fish aren’t meant to be stopped. Sorry left the drag clicker on but at least it gives you an idea of the run.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLYlOsgmBps

The next couple of days I managed to catch three smaller sharks the one morning.

We also managed some Garrick but they were biting really sporadically suddenly coming on the bite for a few minutes and then refusing everything thrown at them a few minutes later just lying lazily in the swell.







Saw a few strange things in the couple of days. A bull mullet being caught on a plug with about a 6/0 solidly hooked up inside of its mouth.

What looked like a bronzie breaching clear out the water chasing what I presume was the Garrick in the waves.

One day standing on the little hill in the middle of the island I saw what I thought was two dolphins swimming close past the front of the island but didn’t pay them much attention.

There had been a lot of dolphins around that day and the preceding days. Then a guy throwing plug shouted shark. Looking back to where the “ dolphins “ were swimming in the swell on closer inspection it was actually a giant of a shark.

It was so close a guy before noticing it actually threw his plug over it. I could only see it swimming close to the surface every time a swell passed but could see it was a real giant and was very bulky resembling either a tiger or massive Zambezi. It slowly made its way past the front of the island before disappearing in the waves.

So fast forward to the last day. The previous night I had contemplated if I should maybe leave early using the morning to clean my tackle and pack before the trip back to P.E as I was still driving back to Cape Town the following day.

The weather predicted a nice west for the morning so decided what the hell will give it a go and if I don’t get a pick up before 9:30am I will call it quits.

Got the baits out quickly, one a whole yellowtail and the other the smelliest bait I could create using all the old various baits I had left over.

While waiting Zola said he had, had a dream we were going to catch something big on our last day so was hoping his ancestors were telling us of something good was about to happen haha!

So about at 7am the premonition came true and I got a pickup. The rip was on the left hand side of the island that day and the shark swam straight out with it.

After a long run it stopped and I managed to get some line back. While standing there chatting to a guy (Dillon) I met on the rocks I jokingly said if the other rod goes you going to have to take it.

Well murphy’s law it wasn’t 5min later and looking back we could see the rod bounce once and then being pulled flat. Mandla did the 100m in an impressive time and set the hook.

Dillon took over from him and now I was worried the second shark would swim round and cause me problems but luckily it was smaller and stayed to the left and a while later Dillon landed it under the bridge.



Meanwhile I was in a a back and forth battle with my shark with it taking line and me winning it back again.

This carried on for the next hour and I was hoping it would swim right so we could land it on the beach but it stopped every time at the point so we had to settle for second best trying to land it under the bridge on the other side of the island.

After a while I got enough line back to start working the shark into the little bay but as it realized what was happening it took off on another run and took me into my braid again and we had to start all over again. The second attempt a while later resulted in the shark swimming in to close to the rocks off tinys rock and we decided to let it out again.

On the third attempt it did the same and this time we couldn’t avoid landing it on the rocks off Tinys.

Female Grey shark 258cm (245kg).There was some confusion as when it was landed the ghillies were saying its a bronzie and being so buggered I took there word for it without checking for a ridge. Later looking at the photos I had my doubts and managed to isolate a image from my gopro vid confirming its a grey shark.




Packed up straight afterwards and drove home with an aching back but smile on my face.

Added a vid of a bronzie I caught last year and will add the grey shark vid as soon as i have finished editing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b69VUixLKaE
 

Enigma

Moderator
Awesome fish and report.

You're selling yourself short on the weight. That's a 260kg fish that
 

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Dave Batista

Sealiner
Lekker fish and congrats on the PB James. Some big greys around mazeppa.

@Enigma I see that wikifish gives the weight slightly higher than fishweight.net
eg. My 275cm PCL grey was 297kgs on fishweights vs 314kgs on wikiFish. Which one is more accurate?
 

Occie

Sealiner
Thanks guys.
Was a special fish to catch and definitely saved the trip as to that point had been quite disappointing.

Ernoba caught it on a TLD 50 and pentagon heavy.

Guess ill take the 258kg then Craig. Strange they don't differentiate between male and female. Do you think its because there isn't much difference between the two unlike bronzies?

Now next time I'm going to take revenge on that submarine in the first vid.
 

Enigma

Moderator
Yip James very little difference in build between Male and Females. Bronzie difference in weight to length between males and females is also way less than the differential between Male and Female Raggies

If you ever get into the situation you found yourself in Video 1 then rather ease right off on the drag and crank the lever dial a full turn in and then gradually increase lever pressure.

Yes the fish will almost be on freespool for a very short while but you'll immediately have sensible and smooth constant drag, drag pressure and consistency that you can't ever dream of achieving using gloves. I've had to do it more than once, in fact did just that in Feb off St Francis where I all but got stripped on a 50SWII and 100lbs Braid.

Please NOTE..... CAUTION...... once Cranking up the Dial...... gradually engage the lever...... DO NOT crank it up to it's previous position...... You'll get yanked off you FEET......

My gut feel is that a shark swimming with the shark in video 1 swam into the leader and accidentally cut you off. Trophy suffered the same fate in February at boiling pot and 3 years ago same thing off the Island, basically spooled on a Trini 50 and PING clean cut. Big Greys and more so Big Zambi's swim in pairs or 3's and often as a result of being in such close proximity end up getting the line ACCIDENTALLY in their mouth's and cutting the leader off.

Off this MANY anglers with bitten lines in Mntunzini can attest.
 

Enigma

Moderator
Mathew, I took to using the Wikifish as the weights there correspond with the All Species Calculator as prescribed by SASAA and with the relevant source information.

Here is the weight using the SASAA conversion tables
 

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According to SASAA All Species conversion your 275cm Dusky would convert to 314kg
 

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Occie

Sealiner
Enigma wrote:
Yip James very little difference in build between Male and Females. Bronzie difference in weight to length between males and females is also way less than the differential between Male and Female Raggies

If you ever get into the situation you found yourself in Video 1 then rather ease right off on the drag and crank the lever dial a full turn in and then gradually increase lever pressure.

Yes the fish will almost be on freespool for a very short while but you'll immediately have sensible and smooth constant drag, drag pressure and consistency that you can't ever dream of achieving using gloves. I've had to do it more than once, in fact did just that in Feb off St Francis where I all but got stripped on a 50SWII and 100lbs Braid.

Please NOTE..... CAUTION...... once Cranking up the Dial...... gradually engage the lever...... DO NOT crank it up to it's previous position...... You'll get yanked off you FEET......

My gut feel is that a shark swimming with the shark in video 1 swam into the leader and accidentally cut you off. Trophy suffered the same fate in February at boiling pot and 3 years ago same thing off the Island, basically spooled on a Trini 50 and PING clean cut. Big Greys and more so Big Zambi's swim in pairs or 3's and often as a result of being in such close proximity end up getting the line ACCIDENTALLY in their mouth's and cutting the leader off.

Off this MANY anglers with bitten lines in Mntunzini can attest.

Ja think thats makes more sense Craig as im almost sure it wasnt reef.

Couldnt believe the strength of that first shark after it came off tesed the drag and we were struggling to pull line off.

If I remember right the max drag on the TLD is 44lb at max.Is that measured on a full or empty spool?

Dont know but it seems that when the current is running from left to right and they get in that rip running out from the right hand side of the island they very hard to stop. I reckon you have got a much better chance when the current is running the other way to be able to stop a real monster.
 

Enigma

Moderator
44lbs is what they recommend and that is full spool. The graphite frame and the blind rivets joining the foot piece to the reel can't handle long sustained periods of more than that. 44lbs full equals 65lbs half and broken reel or 0.80mm when down to 20%

Sunil landed his big Grey on a TLD50 and had cranked up the drag and it still took 600m in that rip on the right, his strike drag was at 18kg when he hooked the fish and half way through the run he was on SUNSET and it didn't even blink in the first 300m.
 

Occie

Sealiner
Thanks kitefisher.

Dont know if you can remember but a few years back you (along with Craig) gave me a lot of advice with regards to kitefishing when I was starting out and which was much appreciated.

Yes and the fact that there is a reef out to the right also makes it even harder when they in that rip.

Craig I heard there was a tiger shark caught a few months back do you know anything about it and maybe what size it was?

Just for interest sake as you are a tackle supplier have you noticed a decrease in guys fishing for ineds?
When I first joined sealine a few years back there seemed to be a ined craze with guys buying a lot of shark fishing setups and a lot of info going around about shark fishing. I see a lot of guys selling there shark setups and not a lot of requests around info for shark fishing these days. My last few trips to Mazeppa I think I saw one other ined fishermen (although its normally very quiet there when I go).

Not part of any facebook groups so dont know if the guys are using that these days.

Would be interested to know if this is actually the case or just a product of most fishing sites being rather quiet these days.

Quite into my fly fishing these days since I moved to the western cape but my Mazeppa trip is always the first leave I book for the year.
 

Dave Batista

Sealiner
The anglers name was Neville Barnard. The post was on facebook last year august if I remember correctly. I would advise that you get on facebook and join some of the groups that are on there. heaps more happening on FB than on sealine.
 
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