Jigstar Africa Newsletter - 5th May

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ripplefisher

Senior Member
 

Great sailfish - 160 lb's is a lot of fish..!

I know grouper are a difficult species to release, but is it standard policy there to keep all the bottom species caught...?

 
 
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royboy

Sealiner
Hi RF, good question. Different beliefs in different geographies. My observations.......

We were in Zancudo CR in Feb this year (on the border of Costa Rica and Panama - well 30 miles north). Until then, very few people had ever even tried going that deep (200M+) for bottoms, and even now there is only 1 boat dropping metal that deep. (also of note, John and the guys in Zancudo use the fish to feed the local Ticos - yup the locals who actually need food). Food for thought.....

They also are the best proponents of T&R for Billfish and any other species under pressure......

The deep resources in the region are "largely" untouched. (this area is still the domain of the bill-fish guys - and typically they don't spend time dropping jigs to huge depths. They troll.)

Do I like seeing slow growing Grouper species going home for the pot? (at something like 1Kg per year?). Nope! Do they taste good? Yup (why do people eat rock-cod?). Sustainable in this geography for now......

At Three Kings NZ in March, we boated and kept a number of seabass (wreckfish). Also grow at 1Kg per year...... so a 45Kg bass is not insignificant. They are not hammered by the commercials because of geographic challenges (getting there is a ball-breaker) or the recreationals for the same reasons.

They all taste good, and when the anglers respect their catch. (Yup, respect the fish that have been caught) and there is no waste or commercial / recreational sale of fish...... well, our perceptions..... particularly once you have tasted it SMOKED.... well our perceptions change.

Things happen differently in different places.....

I would never advocate any form of abuse, i PROMISE YOU!

Cheers, RB
 
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royboy

Sealiner
It is also interesting that (hugely greatful for this) I have been fortunate enough to fish the Central-eastern Pacific.....and the South-western Pacific for 2 weeks each side..... with 2 weeks at home in-between. Opposites attract maybe? Arguably the furthest places from home regardless how one measures....

One thing guys? I have been in the company of people who care more about fish, than at home we care about people! Yes, on both sides of the Pacific people do kill fish.... but they also release..... knowledgebly.

I wish that we had that skillset here, at home.

Regards, RB
 
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royboy

Sealiner
Last thing - typo on my side Karrie is with a "K" - sorry Karrie...... I'm a Glenwood Old Boy (spelling was iffy, but we could do maths...... sort of)
 
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royboy

Sealiner
Theo? Are you well? Mid-July at earliest (wish I was there right now, because that is the place where I am ME.)

Missing beachhouse like crazy!!!!!

Before going "home" - I have to go on a huge adventure (with Nepps, next month - together with Earl Strydom of Hells Gate, doing a live-aboard to a newly discovered Indian Ocean atoll. Spare Wheel is Jason Iveson (Editor of Rock, Surf & Deep) Hopefully, we can teach him how to tie knots (Andre's job) and how to catch fish (Andre's job) so I can go along for a Jolly........ unless I come under pressure then I will have to catch fish. (Joking lads, joking)

Thing is........ by late June, we will have magic.

Think about this one every night....... gonna be CRAZY!!!!!!
 
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thika

Sealiner
As I said elsewhere, I need a new job!

I will be in my house then and hopefully be able to take my life off hold

Give us a shout

And enjoy!

Regards

 
 
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royboy

Sealiner
Ahhhhh Theo, Bro! I HAVE to fish with our gear to gain credibility...... we don't have the market luxury of the Shimanos and the Daiwas (even though Google is available to everyone) but hell, Bro it makes life great for us to go and show & tell.

The proof is in the fishing....

Some really big Pro's keep calling..... coincidence?
 
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ripplefisher

Senior Member
 

 Hi RB,

 

Thanks for the reply - it is always nice to hear opinions and approaches in various parts of the world; i agree regarding the fact that if stocks are underexploited and not under much fishing pressure, and as long as the fish go to good use, then keeping a few for the pot does no harm..

As you say, its all about knowing what is a sustainable harvest in a given area..not always the easiest topic of discussion..!

Cheers, RF.
 
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royboy

Sealiner
Hi RF, Good on you bud. You're a good man who cares about the environment and our resources. Thanks for that, it is worth a million percent!!!!!!

In hindsight, if I had known what an issue this newsletter has caused, I would probably have only had a few pics (without many dead fish). But then I would have only showed a "censored" version / sequence.

I made a decision (probably the wrong one) that this was their trip and as I received the pics,I posted them in sequence. I offended some people by doing this...... and for those folk offended, please accept my apologies.

As they say: "The Toothpaste is out of the tube". What's said is said, what's done is done.

I am not a sequential fish-killer...... in fact I do a heck of a lot of releasing. Most go home to the deep (release) a few home to me and family (pot). As in well over 95+% releasing....all very carefully, and dependent on specie.

Yeah..... sustainable harvest. I wish authorities together with the scientific community could assist us with this information. Huge challenges locally, not quite so bad in places of difficult access for comms and recs..... but I am not a marine scientist. Some places have soooooooo many fish, and the fishing is sooooooooooo good. And a few miles away there are hungry people? As an angler, Tough call. Some people make those calls......and there is blood on decks. And food in bellies. And pictures to show.

I'll take it on the chin. I shouldn't have included some of those pics...... fact is those were the pics sequentially.

Again, for those offended. Please accept my aplogogies!

Hey RF, I need to get my lilly white ass to Mad sometime in the near future.... be great to meet and fish with you.

Cheers - RB
 
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nicos

Senior Member
royboy wrote:
Theo? Are you well? Mid-July at earliest (wish I was there right now, because that is the place where I am ME.)

Missing beachhouse like crazy!!!!!

Before going "home" - I have to go on a huge adventure (with Nepps, next month - together with Earl Strydom of Hells Gate, doing a live-aboard to a newly discovered Indian Ocean atoll. Spare Wheel is Jason Iveson (Editor of Rock, Surf & Deep) Hopefully, we can teach him how to tie knots (Andre's job) and how to catch fish (Andre's job) so I can go along for a Jolly........ unless I come under pressure then I will have to catch fish. (Joking lads, joking)

Thing is........ by late June, we will have magic.

Think about this one every night....... gonna be CRAZY!!!!!!
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Roy, roy.. rub it in! My planned mid year trip to Bassas -first ever - was cancelled (apparently some people are into watching a little round ball getting kicked around), and today my usual two mates, that I have done a trip with every year  in November to exotic places like Argentina and Kenya religiously for the last 6 years have pulled out for this year...

Not to be rude, but please shut up :)

Jealousy does indeed make one nasty (what to do, what to do...skimp skimp)
 
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royboy

Sealiner
Ahhhh Nico. Tee hee hee. I hear you.

But I have some VERY good news for you.

There is going to be trip to Hells Gate in August. A very special trip...... which includes Chris Wong and Richard Dobbinson coming over from NZ. Earl Strydom is finalising costs, and we will start advertising it in the next week.

Space will be limited to 12 Anglers, and will be filled on a 1st committed and 1st paid basis. Duration is a week.

Maybe this could be a sustitute trip for you?
 
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shagnrelease

Sealiner
royboy wrote:
Ahhhh Nico. Tee hee hee. I hear you.

But I have some VERY good news for you.

There is going to be trip to Hells Gate in August. A very special trip...... which includes Chris Wong and Richard Dobbinson coming over from NZ. Earl Strydom is finalising costs, and we will start advertising it in the next week.

Space will be limited to 12 Anglers, and will be filled on a 1st committed and 1st paid basis. Duration is a week.

Maybe this could be a sustitute trip for you?
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HOLY CRAP!!
That will be a goody!!!
 
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Nepptune

Sealiner
Think you'll have to look a little further back to find Roy's Yearbook Pat!!! :) HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Actually, its RB's birthday today... Big Happy Birthday to my partner in Crime.... all the best bro, hope its an epic fish filled year ahead, its been a pretty good one so far, I hope the trend continues!!!
 
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royboy

Sealiner
Shot 'Dre!!!! Yeah.....Pat, I was class of 82 (which puts me in Super-Ballie bracket)...... ar as my son Matt calls me - "An old sod!!!" PS - no respect from the lighties.

The good Maths was back in the day...... and now, seeing my long-term memory is fading...... I am not quite sure how old I am........ but short-term is still pretty good, so I know when I am next fishing!!!!! YeeeeHaaaa!!!!!

Cheers, RB
 
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