Kingfisher-guy
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Is Kingfisher Hi Abrasion line only for saltwater or am I mistaking?
(I just filled a whole reel with it?????)
(I just filled a whole reel with it?????)
I currently fish with double X 0.30mm line and im
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Kingfisher-guy
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Im looking to buy a flourocarbon leader-
Any ideas of prices??
Any ideas of prices??
200ts
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Hi Kingfisher guy, i will not say kingfisher giant abrasion is only for salt water use, i used to use .028mm kingfisher giant abrasion in the dams no problem. with regards to the florocarbon leader, i bought a role of tripple fish or something, 25 lbs( thinnest i could get), i paid something like R100 for 50yards, so what i did was, just to try it and because of its cost, i shortened my leader by 1 meter, and tied 1m floro to the end, so when i cast obviously the knot will be hanging out of the tip, im going to try it this weekend see what the results are or if it makes a difference, and i made traces out of floro as well. If you ask me its expensive stuff, but if it works, i dont mind.
Later
Later
Kingfisher-guy
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Didnt know its that expensive...
Floro is totally invisible under water so the fish wont see it if im not mistaking?
Floro is totally invisible under water so the fish wont see it if im not mistaking?
I am pretty sure that is a gimmick then. Surely fish would have realized by now that fishing line means hooks and they would have just swam away. I use high visibility line(whitish in color) and I still catch fish. Surely white line must stand out like a sore thumb under water.
Kingfisher-guy
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Haha thats why I was wandering if line color effect the fish...I also fish with hi visi.
Kingfisher-guy
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[color="#006600"]CrAZy-BuG[/color] wrote:
Check on page 1 of this thread, there is a link to a sight that shows you exactly how to tie the right knot!
Check on page 1 of this thread, there is a link to a sight that shows you exactly how to tie the right knot!
Kingfisher-guy
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Me too, 6kg double X...
Iv never fished with a leader (except my fly rod) but I see all the pros use it so I reckon it must be good for something.
Iv never fished with a leader (except my fly rod) but I see all the pros use it so I reckon it must be good for something.
Choice of line all depends on what you intend to do with it.
E.g. what size fish are you fishing for,
Are you casting?
Are you fishing close to obstructions in the water, where the carp could potentially get stuck in?
What is your budget?
Personally, I'm not saying braid is a bad thing, as it has its advantages, but I dont think braid is a neccesity. And the downside is that is can work out to be very expensive. If I had the money to splash out I would buy Power Pro or Berkley Fireline...but I would need 1600m to fill my reels, and this could work out very expensive. Probably over R2000. The only time braid comes in very handy is when you are fishing over say 150m far, and close to obstructions (like reeds, heavy watergrass, etc.) Because in these cases you need to know instantly when a fish is on, so that you can react and keep it out of the snags/obstructions...
That said, a fight with any fish on braid is great. With no stretch in the line, you feel every lunge, every shake of the head that the fish does...but the risk of the hook pulling is now also increased, because there is no stretch in the line to absorb the pull and lunges made by the fish....
If you are fishing conventional, surely you dont need more than the .30 line you mentioned K-Guy? But if you are fishing for the 8-15kg+ or bigger carp, I would get a good strong, high abrasion line, like Berkley Big Game at least 14 or 15lb... The stuff is strong as hell. I've also found Kinfisher's High abrasion mono to be exceptionally strong. Especially when used as a leader... You can cast your ass off without any worries.!
Recently I was in a situation where the best areas to fish was over 350m out. I had to respool with lower diameter line, in order to get to these distances. I only had Daiwa Sensor 12lb line in my bag, and so spooled these onto my reels. I managed to bring in 2 x 10kg carp in on this line... so I'd say the Daiwa Sensor line 12lb and up is also quite strong...the 12lb is .32mm
K-guy, if you're looking for a good leader, you get these small spools of Sufix supple mono in the shops these days. 70m of line on the spool, for about R20... I've been using the 20lb clear line, and its impressive! High abrasion, which is what one wants....
Crazy-bug, I agree, fish are not as put off by visible line as what ppl think. Let me give you an example. The other day I fished a dam that is quite heavily fished. One would think that the fish would be pretty weary of fishermen's tackle, e.g. shiny weights, visible line etc... so I was using coated weights, and my friend was just using plain shiny 3oz weights...this was in crystal clear water.....well, my friend outfished me! So therefore I dont think line visibility would be such a deterrant. Most of our dams have quite dirty water anyway, and some of the depths we fish make visibility even worse....
E.g. what size fish are you fishing for,
Are you casting?
Are you fishing close to obstructions in the water, where the carp could potentially get stuck in?
What is your budget?
Personally, I'm not saying braid is a bad thing, as it has its advantages, but I dont think braid is a neccesity. And the downside is that is can work out to be very expensive. If I had the money to splash out I would buy Power Pro or Berkley Fireline...but I would need 1600m to fill my reels, and this could work out very expensive. Probably over R2000. The only time braid comes in very handy is when you are fishing over say 150m far, and close to obstructions (like reeds, heavy watergrass, etc.) Because in these cases you need to know instantly when a fish is on, so that you can react and keep it out of the snags/obstructions...
That said, a fight with any fish on braid is great. With no stretch in the line, you feel every lunge, every shake of the head that the fish does...but the risk of the hook pulling is now also increased, because there is no stretch in the line to absorb the pull and lunges made by the fish....
If you are fishing conventional, surely you dont need more than the .30 line you mentioned K-Guy? But if you are fishing for the 8-15kg+ or bigger carp, I would get a good strong, high abrasion line, like Berkley Big Game at least 14 or 15lb... The stuff is strong as hell. I've also found Kinfisher's High abrasion mono to be exceptionally strong. Especially when used as a leader... You can cast your ass off without any worries.!
Recently I was in a situation where the best areas to fish was over 350m out. I had to respool with lower diameter line, in order to get to these distances. I only had Daiwa Sensor 12lb line in my bag, and so spooled these onto my reels. I managed to bring in 2 x 10kg carp in on this line... so I'd say the Daiwa Sensor line 12lb and up is also quite strong...the 12lb is .32mm
K-guy, if you're looking for a good leader, you get these small spools of Sufix supple mono in the shops these days. 70m of line on the spool, for about R20... I've been using the 20lb clear line, and its impressive! High abrasion, which is what one wants....
Crazy-bug, I agree, fish are not as put off by visible line as what ppl think. Let me give you an example. The other day I fished a dam that is quite heavily fished. One would think that the fish would be pretty weary of fishermen's tackle, e.g. shiny weights, visible line etc... so I was using coated weights, and my friend was just using plain shiny 3oz weights...this was in crystal clear water.....well, my friend outfished me! So therefore I dont think line visibility would be such a deterrant. Most of our dams have quite dirty water anyway, and some of the depths we fish make visibility even worse....
I will go and have a look at the Sufix leader lines.
I don't have a canoe or a bait boat as I fish in rivers 95% of the time. So I like casting(which I do rather well) which is why I use the 5kg line as it is nice and thin and comes of the reel with ease. Problem is that if you really force the rod for distance, you need to re-rig and bait
MadCarper, thanks for the input w.r.t. leaders
On a side note. The 14.8kg common carp that I landed(about 5 years ago) was landed with 5.45kg Double X line. I think you can land any fish if you are willing to play it for a while.
I don't have a canoe or a bait boat as I fish in rivers 95% of the time. So I like casting(which I do rather well) which is why I use the 5kg line as it is nice and thin and comes of the reel with ease. Problem is that if you really force the rod for distance, you need to re-rig and bait
MadCarper, thanks for the input w.r.t. leaders
On a side note. The 14.8kg common carp that I landed(about 5 years ago) was landed with 5.45kg Double X line. I think you can land any fish if you are willing to play it for a while.
If you're casthing, then look at the 20lb Sufix leader line (20lm might sound light, but its moer-of-a strong!), or the Kingfisher High abrasion line... but just make sure the line is not too thick, because the knot could end up too big and will hinder your casting....
True, one can land some rather big fish on 10lb line, but its still abit risky, especially if there are some sort of obstructions below the water, e.g. rocks, stones, ledges, treestumps... Personally I prefer to keep it safe, I use 19lb high abrasion mono (0.35mm)... this way I can bring the fish in sooner than later, minimizing stress and the chances of the fish finding some sort of snag to get my line cut off on, hehehehe... If you catch big carp, you dont want to take any chances, lol... And believe me, using higher breaking strain line, does not take away the excitement and adrenalin of the fight!!!! ( this exludes offcourse some anglers that get abit ridiculous by using BOULYN!!! those 40lb thick wiry type line.... now that is overkill, and plain daft!)
True, one can land some rather big fish on 10lb line, but its still abit risky, especially if there are some sort of obstructions below the water, e.g. rocks, stones, ledges, treestumps... Personally I prefer to keep it safe, I use 19lb high abrasion mono (0.35mm)... this way I can bring the fish in sooner than later, minimizing stress and the chances of the fish finding some sort of snag to get my line cut off on, hehehehe... If you catch big carp, you dont want to take any chances, lol... And believe me, using higher breaking strain line, does not take away the excitement and adrenalin of the fight!!!! ( this exludes offcourse some anglers that get abit ridiculous by using BOULYN!!! those 40lb thick wiry type line.... now that is overkill, and plain daft!)