bulliejakes
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ChrisF, its out at cape agulas
Hi guys, I need some tips on fishing for galjoen.
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Thanks a lot dynamite. appreciate it. I have caught kabeljou, sharks and a nice wildeperd there. Im still waitin for that beauty of a galjoen!! I lost a huuuuge cracker just a little way up at jongens. damn. i have lost about 4 in the last holiday! that old 49 of mine can handle it, its just the rod thats not stiff enough. I havent fished at that specific point often, but i know what youre talking about... WHat size rod do you recommend??? I have a jigmaster filled with 13,6kg kingfisher. that should suffice. 11-12ft rod?? Should i use the normal rock trace with about 40cm sinker trace and 30-35cm hook trace??? And then wait for him to take it??? I have had many bites from them but i always end up missing them.... My bait might be too tightly wrapped with cotton. SHould i use less cotton???? YOur tips so far are great guys, thanks. I have had nickie louwrens' book for a while so i guess what he says about rods etc are right?? Another thing...so many questions! WHat is a reccomended hook by you guys?? Mustad?? those plain silver hooks?? THe galjoen has quite a feeble mouth doesnt it?? but a strong hook would be good for when a cracker hits me...?
I have mainly caught galjoen on the Namibian west coast. They like colder water. Bait used were redbait and white/black mussel. I've once had many misses and tried the "van der merwe - hoek" the one that the okes use to catch carp with - it worked extremely well on that occasion.
Hiya
I'd go for a larger hook, a 2/0 as a minimum, with a 3/0 being more suitable.
Why? Quite simple, 1/0 hooks work well here in Cape town, because we don't have very many big fish. Should a 10kg 'cracker pick up your bait, you're going to need a helluva lot of luck to land him on a 1/0. The larger hooks will simply hold the fish better.
Look at Mustad big guns, which are strong heavy hooks, perfect for when a 'cracker picks you up.
I'd go for a larger hook, a 2/0 as a minimum, with a 3/0 being more suitable.
Why? Quite simple, 1/0 hooks work well here in Cape town, because we don't have very many big fish. Should a 10kg 'cracker pick up your bait, you're going to need a helluva lot of luck to land him on a 1/0. The larger hooks will simply hold the fish better.
Look at Mustad big guns, which are strong heavy hooks, perfect for when a 'cracker picks you up.
Gold_Shark
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Grunterrr
I'm no Galjoen expert but one thing is for sure. The times when no one else wants to fish because it's cold and raining, that's when I caught most of mine. Some say they come on the bite with the westerly down here.
I'm no Galjoen expert but one thing is for sure. The times when no one else wants to fish because it's cold and raining, that's when I caught most of mine. Some say they come on the bite with the westerly down here.
[color=#006600]Henties[/color] wrote:
[color=#006600]::hippy1:[/color] Hi Henties please explain the van der merwe hoek thing
[color=#006600]Grunterrr[/color] wrote:
if they bite skelm lose the swivel, make a loop in your mainline and cut it to make about a 15 to 20 cm trace with a 50cm sinker trace,make a knot in the sinker line.
you need a rod with a sensitive tip,otherwise you gonna miss a lot of fish.
use the least amount of cotton possible,just tie your bait above the hook eye.
any #1,1.0 or 2.0 hook is fine as long as it's long shank and is sharp,long shank is to tie an elongated bait..they prefer it.
hide the hook in the bait..just leave the very tip of the hook exposed.
when using mussel use either a whole mussel or cut it in half but include the stomach in both halves (this is the piece the gallie loves).
question: how do you know it's galjoen biting and not blacktail? blacktail need some time to hook themselves,galjoen less.
if they bite skelm lose the swivel, make a loop in your mainline and cut it to make about a 15 to 20 cm trace with a 50cm sinker trace,make a knot in the sinker line.
you need a rod with a sensitive tip,otherwise you gonna miss a lot of fish.
use the least amount of cotton possible,just tie your bait above the hook eye.
any #1,1.0 or 2.0 hook is fine as long as it's long shank and is sharp,long shank is to tie an elongated bait..they prefer it.
hide the hook in the bait..just leave the very tip of the hook exposed.
when using mussel use either a whole mussel or cut it in half but include the stomach in both halves (this is the piece the gallie loves).
question: how do you know it's galjoen biting and not blacktail? blacktail need some time to hook themselves,galjoen less.
[color=#006600]Grunterrr[/color]
Read this found on the website.... http://www.gardenroutefishing.com/
This is definitely one of the most popular fish to angle for, both for its fighting ability and delicious taste when in good condition. The body of the fish is protected by thousands of strong scales, enabling it to be comfortable in the rough seas during winter. The best catches are made during June, July, August and September when the fish are in peak condition.
Where to search for the galjoen:
Galjoen flourish in lively, foamy water which occurs frequently during the winter when moderate to strong westerly and south-westerly winds prevail. Galjoen will then seek bits of bait in gullies and close to reefs. When fishing from the beach, you must look out for scoured holes where rocks previously covered with sand are now exposed, providing excellent feeding for galjoen. Bunches of black mussel washed out on the beach may be an indication of freshly scoured holes.
Bait:
The best bait to use for galjoen is redbait. Although freshly cut redbait may be used, galjoen show a predilection for matured redbait. Most anglers obtain their redbait from the rocks at spring low tide, using a sharp knife to cut the pods. The red, fleshy inner part (the actual bait) may then be collected.
Redbait may be matured in the following ways:
• Put freshly cut redbait in a wicker basket and hang it in a cool place for three days.
• Put fresh redbait in a bucket, cover with sea water and leave it in a cool place for three days. Before using
this redbait or before freezing is, get red of the excess fluid.
• Many pods washed out on the shore during periods of rough seas are already in a state of decomposition
- just as galjoen prefer them.
Musselworms are excellent bait, especially on those days when the sea is calm and clear. On this bait you stand a good chance of catching some bronze bream and belman too.
White mussels are good bait, especially when you fish from the beach, and you can expect to catch a greater variety fish.
Bloodworm is a prime bait when fishing on a sandy bottom, but nowadays it is not easily obtainable.
Giant galjoen are often caught on sand prawns by anglers who fish for white steenbras. A white mussel combined with a sand prawn or two is very good bait indeed.
Tackle:
A medium quick-tapering glassfibre or graphite rod with a matching reel will do. The fixed spool reel of the inlander is quite suitable. Nylon line with a breaking strain of 12 - 16kg is sufficient. It’s very important that the sinker trace should be of lower breaking strain than the main line. Also, the hook trace must be of just less breaking strain than the main line. Depending on sea conditions, sinkers of 3 - 5 ounces will do. Silver Mustad hooks (2/0 and 3/0) with barbs on the shank are ideal.
How to catch the galjoen:
Look out for spots where the sea is lively and foamy. Sometimes when the fish are scarce, you have to try many different spots. Also try different kinds of bait. In calm water fish often hesitate to take the bait properly, in which case you must use a longer hook trace. Vary your casting distance. At high tide galjoen venture close to the shore.
When baiting, take a piece of redbait, turn it inside out, and thread it onto the hook to present a straight bait, just a bit longer than the hook. When securing the bait on the hook, thin elastic or cotton thread must be used sparingly. Tie just the back part of the bait. Many experienced anglers prefer not to use thread at all.
In lively, foamy water the galjoen usually take the bait properly. Sometimes it will quickly grab the bait and pull your rod down. At other times you will feel a few bumps, in which case you must wait until the fish pulls the rod down. While waiting for a pick-up, leave a slack in your main line so that the galjoen won’t immediately feel any resistance when picking up the bait. Play the galjoen carefully and don’t force it, as the hook may easily tear out of the jaw of a galjoen in good condition. Unless unavoidable don’t lift a galjoen out of the water, but rather play it out with the aid of the waves.
Miscellaneous:
Remember to let the fish bleed by cutting through the gills. This will make the fish even tastier.
The angler can easily determine whether the galjoen is in good condition: the pectoral fin must not reach the anal opening.
Read this found on the website.... http://www.gardenroutefishing.com/
This is definitely one of the most popular fish to angle for, both for its fighting ability and delicious taste when in good condition. The body of the fish is protected by thousands of strong scales, enabling it to be comfortable in the rough seas during winter. The best catches are made during June, July, August and September when the fish are in peak condition.
Where to search for the galjoen:
Galjoen flourish in lively, foamy water which occurs frequently during the winter when moderate to strong westerly and south-westerly winds prevail. Galjoen will then seek bits of bait in gullies and close to reefs. When fishing from the beach, you must look out for scoured holes where rocks previously covered with sand are now exposed, providing excellent feeding for galjoen. Bunches of black mussel washed out on the beach may be an indication of freshly scoured holes.
Bait:
The best bait to use for galjoen is redbait. Although freshly cut redbait may be used, galjoen show a predilection for matured redbait. Most anglers obtain their redbait from the rocks at spring low tide, using a sharp knife to cut the pods. The red, fleshy inner part (the actual bait) may then be collected.
Redbait may be matured in the following ways:
• Put freshly cut redbait in a wicker basket and hang it in a cool place for three days.
• Put fresh redbait in a bucket, cover with sea water and leave it in a cool place for three days. Before using
this redbait or before freezing is, get red of the excess fluid.
• Many pods washed out on the shore during periods of rough seas are already in a state of decomposition
- just as galjoen prefer them.
Musselworms are excellent bait, especially on those days when the sea is calm and clear. On this bait you stand a good chance of catching some bronze bream and belman too.
White mussels are good bait, especially when you fish from the beach, and you can expect to catch a greater variety fish.
Bloodworm is a prime bait when fishing on a sandy bottom, but nowadays it is not easily obtainable.
Giant galjoen are often caught on sand prawns by anglers who fish for white steenbras. A white mussel combined with a sand prawn or two is very good bait indeed.
Tackle:
A medium quick-tapering glassfibre or graphite rod with a matching reel will do. The fixed spool reel of the inlander is quite suitable. Nylon line with a breaking strain of 12 - 16kg is sufficient. It’s very important that the sinker trace should be of lower breaking strain than the main line. Also, the hook trace must be of just less breaking strain than the main line. Depending on sea conditions, sinkers of 3 - 5 ounces will do. Silver Mustad hooks (2/0 and 3/0) with barbs on the shank are ideal.
How to catch the galjoen:
Look out for spots where the sea is lively and foamy. Sometimes when the fish are scarce, you have to try many different spots. Also try different kinds of bait. In calm water fish often hesitate to take the bait properly, in which case you must use a longer hook trace. Vary your casting distance. At high tide galjoen venture close to the shore.
When baiting, take a piece of redbait, turn it inside out, and thread it onto the hook to present a straight bait, just a bit longer than the hook. When securing the bait on the hook, thin elastic or cotton thread must be used sparingly. Tie just the back part of the bait. Many experienced anglers prefer not to use thread at all.
In lively, foamy water the galjoen usually take the bait properly. Sometimes it will quickly grab the bait and pull your rod down. At other times you will feel a few bumps, in which case you must wait until the fish pulls the rod down. While waiting for a pick-up, leave a slack in your main line so that the galjoen won’t immediately feel any resistance when picking up the bait. Play the galjoen carefully and don’t force it, as the hook may easily tear out of the jaw of a galjoen in good condition. Unless unavoidable don’t lift a galjoen out of the water, but rather play it out with the aid of the waves.
Miscellaneous:
Remember to let the fish bleed by cutting through the gills. This will make the fish even tastier.
The angler can easily determine whether the galjoen is in good condition: the pectoral fin must not reach the anal opening.
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Sorry Grunterr been having major probs with my internet so couldnt respond sooner.
You will need at least a 12ft rod, as that place you need to cast a fair distance. I use a mustad short shank hook. 92570? i think. which i sharpened myself, but chemically sharpened hooks make life a lot easier, just be careful as when fishing in the bricks your hook can get snagged very easily and break your tip off without you knowing thus causing you not to connect to any fish. not too much cotton and you need a strong sea, cast into the strong rolling water.
Not sure i'll be able to post soon again, but will gladly help where i can mate
You will need at least a 12ft rod, as that place you need to cast a fair distance. I use a mustad short shank hook. 92570? i think. which i sharpened myself, but chemically sharpened hooks make life a lot easier, just be careful as when fishing in the bricks your hook can get snagged very easily and break your tip off without you knowing thus causing you not to connect to any fish. not too much cotton and you need a strong sea, cast into the strong rolling water.
Not sure i'll be able to post soon again, but will gladly help where i can mate
mickey1200
Senior Member
Thanx guys. Now I should do better with the gallies myself. I use to much cotton.
[color=#006600]Grunterrr[/color] wrote:
in the white foaming water, probably not more than 10 metres.Hi Dynamite, sorry to bother again, but you really know whats going on! how far is far??? at that spot?? how many metres wouldyou guess??? in the lively water near structure right??? What thickness line do you use and what sinker???
thanks(hopefully you can reply!!
Chris