Carlos Moran
Sealiner
I prefer those maria lures to ondas,green one works very well in Mozambique.my 2c
Hi guys After Neil's and Nepps adv
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Carlos Moran
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I put singles on most of my lures,once youve hooked a fish on a single ,theres less chance of it coming off.You hook more on trebles but also loose more.
Carlos Moran
Sealiner
That could work well,especially on garrick when they bite short,not IGFA legal but what the hell,we go fishing to catch fish,hey!Maybe that could be the trick for circle hooks,youve given me a good idea,good on you mate.
You must understand how most fish attack a lure, then you will understand why having a short "trace" on the back of your lure works so well.
MOST fish do 2 things when they go for their "target"
They attack at speed (ambush) but also when they get very close they suck (or create a vacuum) the bait in.
Because of the vacuum action created by the fish and the fact that the "hook on a string" at the back of the lure is very light they suck the hook into their mouths.
Doing it this way should prove to be VERY SUCCESSFUL.
M 2c
MOST fish do 2 things when they go for their "target"
They attack at speed (ambush) but also when they get very close they suck (or create a vacuum) the bait in.
Because of the vacuum action created by the fish and the fact that the "hook on a string" at the back of the lure is very light they suck the hook into their mouths.
Doing it this way should prove to be VERY SUCCESSFUL.
M 2c
Hiya
Some fish, like elf do strike from the rear. How-ever, some fish, like tuna GENERALLY strike from the bottom or grab the lure side-ways. The FRONT hooks seems to hook alot more fish than the rear hooks!! Check the bite marks on the bottom two rapala's:
Another trick i've used is to remove the treble on my spoons/spinners and replace it with two single hooks, FACING each other, on the same split-ring. I don't have a picture of it though. Makes the lure relatively weedless, but gives you GREAT hook-ups!! (don't know if i explained that sufficiently!!)
Some fish, like elf do strike from the rear. How-ever, some fish, like tuna GENERALLY strike from the bottom or grab the lure side-ways. The FRONT hooks seems to hook alot more fish than the rear hooks!! Check the bite marks on the bottom two rapala's:
Another trick i've used is to remove the treble on my spoons/spinners and replace it with two single hooks, FACING each other, on the same split-ring. I don't have a picture of it though. Makes the lure relatively weedless, but gives you GREAT hook-ups!! (don't know if i explained that sufficiently!!)
Carlos Moran
Sealiner
Those my friend,are chafe marks from hooks,it means that your lure is not swimming straight.I fish for Tuny with one single at the back and no belly hook,like that you can climb into a harness and pull without worrying about hooks pulling.
Hiya
I respectfully wish to differ!!
Those are BITE marks. MOST of the YF i catch is on the middle hooks. You do get some fish that smoke the lure, but the majority seem to come from the middle hooks.
I'm VERY particular about my lures and check them through-out the day. When trolling Rap's, i'll run 6-8 of them behind my boat, so if one doesn't swim right.......you know the drill............
My first instinct was also chaffe marks, but i started monitoring my lures very closely and after landed some fish, i could clearly see the BITE marks, WITH the lure in the fish's mouth!! I have them on my Rapala's, Halco's, Storms, and Yozuri's. They ALL can't be swimming incorrectly......
I respectfully wish to differ!!
Those are BITE marks. MOST of the YF i catch is on the middle hooks. You do get some fish that smoke the lure, but the majority seem to come from the middle hooks.
I'm VERY particular about my lures and check them through-out the day. When trolling Rap's, i'll run 6-8 of them behind my boat, so if one doesn't swim right.......you know the drill............
My first instinct was also chaffe marks, but i started monitoring my lures very closely and after landed some fish, i could clearly see the BITE marks, WITH the lure in the fish's mouth!! I have them on my Rapala's, Halco's, Storms, and Yozuri's. They ALL can't be swimming incorrectly......
Carlos Moran
Sealiner
I am not saying that you dont catch on the front hooks,but take the lure in your one hand and the hook in your other hand and pull it agaisnt the side of the lure,that halfmoon mark you get on rapallas come from the hook,my 2 c
Hiya
Agree with you there!! How-ever, if you look closely, you'll see the abrasion marks BETWEEN the top stratch mark and the hook. It looks like its been scraped with rough sand-paper. Nothing on the hook can scratch or damage that area, other than the fish's mouth.....
Regards
miles
Agree with you there!! How-ever, if you look closely, you'll see the abrasion marks BETWEEN the top stratch mark and the hook. It looks like its been scraped with rough sand-paper. Nothing on the hook can scratch or damage that area, other than the fish's mouth.....
Regards
miles
Carlos Moran
Sealiner
Sorry about that,didnt notice it,dont you have problems with the new rapies?Some of them you catch one fish and its impossible to tune them again.We all started changeing to Halco Lazer Pro,A bit more bulletproof.Whats your view?
:addnMy last Rapie i used was the new x-rap. It took a 91kg YF after less than 10 minutes in the water. That fish swallowed the Rappie COMPLETELY!! It was so far down his throat, that i could JUST about see the lip sticking out!!
Managed to get it out, with almost no damage to the lure, but it now refuses to swim!! I can't see any visible damage, the hooks were bent out of shape and i bent the hook attachment on the lure straight and fitted new hooks, but it still won't swim straight!! Another reason why i switched over to trolling squids!!
Same lure as the top one:
I've switched the standard trebles to Gamagatsu trebles, as the original ones bend open!!
I've almost completely stopped using swimming type lures. I now troll ONLY squids, in a variety of sizes, for the YF, a bird with a daisy chain and a large Yamashita squid, for albacore/longfin,yellowtail, dorado and smaller tuna species, meduim sized Yamashita's and Tuna runners, cedar plugs, etc
Those tuna simply destroy your rapala type lures and you end up spending way too much time sorting out tangles when a crew member doesn't check whether the lure is swimming straight, after catching a fish. What i have noticed, is that i seem to catch MORE fish running JUST squid type lures!! Maybe its because they rarely tangle and nee no adjustments, which means more time in the water. Turning on a school of fish is also easy, as you can turn very sharp with-out tangling.
Halco's. Strangely enough, i've never had much success with them on my boat. Could possibly be that i seldom used to use them!! The blue lazer pro worked OK on the longfin tuna, but the GT jig is AWESOME on the YF!! My one buddy trolls 10, yes TEN same colour GT jigs and he does execptionally well with YF on the troll!! Most of my friends swear by the Halco's, so i have no doubt that they are GREAT, its just that i don't have much confidence in them!!
I also use a GT jig on my spearfishing flasher and most GAMEFISH love it!! That rattle is simply irresistable!!
I've also never needed to tune mine, even after a number of large YF, it still swims like new, just with almost no paint left on it!! Worth trying them out!!
Managed to get it out, with almost no damage to the lure, but it now refuses to swim!! I can't see any visible damage, the hooks were bent out of shape and i bent the hook attachment on the lure straight and fitted new hooks, but it still won't swim straight!! Another reason why i switched over to trolling squids!!
Same lure as the top one:
I've switched the standard trebles to Gamagatsu trebles, as the original ones bend open!!
I've almost completely stopped using swimming type lures. I now troll ONLY squids, in a variety of sizes, for the YF, a bird with a daisy chain and a large Yamashita squid, for albacore/longfin,yellowtail, dorado and smaller tuna species, meduim sized Yamashita's and Tuna runners, cedar plugs, etc
Those tuna simply destroy your rapala type lures and you end up spending way too much time sorting out tangles when a crew member doesn't check whether the lure is swimming straight, after catching a fish. What i have noticed, is that i seem to catch MORE fish running JUST squid type lures!! Maybe its because they rarely tangle and nee no adjustments, which means more time in the water. Turning on a school of fish is also easy, as you can turn very sharp with-out tangling.
Halco's. Strangely enough, i've never had much success with them on my boat. Could possibly be that i seldom used to use them!! The blue lazer pro worked OK on the longfin tuna, but the GT jig is AWESOME on the YF!! My one buddy trolls 10, yes TEN same colour GT jigs and he does execptionally well with YF on the troll!! Most of my friends swear by the Halco's, so i have no doubt that they are GREAT, its just that i don't have much confidence in them!!
I also use a GT jig on my spearfishing flasher and most GAMEFISH love it!! That rattle is simply irresistable!!
I've also never needed to tune mine, even after a number of large YF, it still swims like new, just with almost no paint left on it!! Worth trying them out!!
Carlos Moran
Sealiner
The last three Tuna classics we also just pulled skirts an konas,seem to pull the bigger fish.I had GT Jig that I scratched the paint off and called it Micheal Jackson,first he was coulered now he is white!Klapped the shoal fish on it and eventually lost it to a Mako.
One of my biggest problems was that i fished and spearfished off my 21' semi-rigid. For inshore fishing, yellowtail is the prime target. Throwing spinners/spoons or surface plugs is my prefered way of catching them. Having 4 anglers 'vas', with yellowtail going crazy alongside the boat, lose hooks or flailing trebles is not a good idea on a rubber duck!!
Hence the rig as you've picture above. It also works quite nicely when spinning along the kelp beds, as you don't get stuck that often.
A easy solution is to simply crush the barbs flat, making them barbless!! Just a quick shake and out comes your spoon!!
Hence the rig as you've picture above. It also works quite nicely when spinning along the kelp beds, as you don't get stuck that often.
A easy solution is to simply crush the barbs flat, making them barbless!! Just a quick shake and out comes your spoon!!