Guys, great stuff to see the posts above here, on
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Or Bass anglers for that matter .... Watch the angling progs and they unhook by twisting the hook out and throw the bass back, Carp wont handle that, they much more delicate and seseptible to injury. Plus due to the time out of water, which is kept minimal, they do need a bit of reviving in the water before release, we never just drop a carp in the water and hope its ok, we make sure its ok... lol!
But hey Im not asking for an arguement here with the bass guys, its just our fascet is different, besides we talking much bigger fish here, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 lbs...eish! I wish!
But hey Im not asking for an arguement here with the bass guys, its just our fascet is different, besides we talking much bigger fish here, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 lbs...eish! I wish!
No argument MadCarper, it is just in general saltwaterfish are more stonger than freshwater fish - regardless of the specie and size. ( I stand corrected. but bass are stronger than carp??? ). We also revive a fish wich has been beached for the simple matter that the tackle you use makes it more difficult than unhooking in deep sea. Longer rods, dont, just drop rod in sand, have to fetch a pliers etc, etc.
I guess the same rule applies to all types of angling ---the less time the fish spends out of the water the longer the time for survival.
But then again you cant compare a full blooded tuna to a "sissy carp" LOL.
I guess the same rule applies to all types of angling ---the less time the fish spends out of the water the longer the time for survival.
But then again you cant compare a full blooded tuna to a "sissy carp" LOL.
I stated to Spod in one of the other posts that I really have respect for the specie anglers in the way they go about looking after the fish and taking care of it so as to conserve it for the future.
Dont think for one moment that out dam is any diff to yours. We also see the decline in really big fish and also try conserve where we can-- I only think our competition is so much greater.
Hereby I mean commercial exploytation of certain fishing waters. ( talking about guys not staying to quota and size )
There has always been the argument that us "bank" (rock and surf ) anglers are also responsible for this. I beg to differ, and in the same word not saying we are not guilty.
Now it sounds as if I am cotradicting myself --but how many fish does an angler have to catch to fill a trawler net??
I guess the same applies to you guys where the fish with gill nets.
Dont think for one moment that out dam is any diff to yours. We also see the decline in really big fish and also try conserve where we can-- I only think our competition is so much greater.
Hereby I mean commercial exploytation of certain fishing waters. ( talking about guys not staying to quota and size )
There has always been the argument that us "bank" (rock and surf ) anglers are also responsible for this. I beg to differ, and in the same word not saying we are not guilty.
Now it sounds as if I am cotradicting myself --but how many fish does an angler have to catch to fill a trawler net??
I guess the same applies to you guys where the fish with gill nets.
Simen, very true what you're saying... however there is a very possible threat looming for us carp anglers in the distance as well, and that is the commercial netting of our dams! It started at Bloemhof, then onto Harties, and it wont be long before ppl will see this as a very profitable business and will be given licenses to net other dams... Then we are wholly screwed!!! But we all pray for this not to happen....
And yes, then you get the increasing number of gill-netting that is happening all over... esp. in/around Jhb!
And yes, then you get the increasing number of gill-netting that is happening all over... esp. in/around Jhb!
Just as a mater of interest. Leewpan ( Secunda / Leandra area ) was created by collapsing the coal mine underneath it. Pillar extraction was done which caused the top layer of earth to come down and form a Indent on the surface.
The mines at that time thought it was agood idea to stock it with fish ( carp) and then net them for the various mine hostels in the area.
But before netting could start a couple of mine workers went fishing there. Their homemade boat capsized and 2 or 3 of them drowned. The other workers of the mines then refused to eat any of the fish which was to be netted as the spirits of these guys are still in the water.
How's that for superstition. The fish then flourished as stocks were never controlled.
I hope for you guys sake that netting of dams never starts.
The mines at that time thought it was agood idea to stock it with fish ( carp) and then net them for the various mine hostels in the area.
But before netting could start a couple of mine workers went fishing there. Their homemade boat capsized and 2 or 3 of them drowned. The other workers of the mines then refused to eat any of the fish which was to be netted as the spirits of these guys are still in the water.
How's that for superstition. The fish then flourished as stocks were never controlled.
I hope for you guys sake that netting of dams never starts.
Great thread MC 
Just 2 points I would like to add regarding carp care is before picking up the carp for a photo one must remove any sharp watch straps or rings, your watch strap will be rubbing against the soft belly of the fish.
The other regards the use of the landing net. When the fish is in the net and you are about to roll the net up to pick up the fish please make sure the line is out to the side of the net and is not rolled up with the net, rolling the line up with the net will tighten the hook on the mouth and if the fish flaps this can pull the hook from the fishes mouth resulting in damage to the fish.
Just 2 points I would like to add regarding carp care is before picking up the carp for a photo one must remove any sharp watch straps or rings, your watch strap will be rubbing against the soft belly of the fish.
The other regards the use of the landing net. When the fish is in the net and you are about to roll the net up to pick up the fish please make sure the line is out to the side of the net and is not rolled up with the net, rolling the line up with the net will tighten the hook on the mouth and if the fish flaps this can pull the hook from the fishes mouth resulting in damage to the fish.
Very good points J!
The line and the landing net... I sometimes think it causes more damage to the fish's mouth then than during the actual fight! 90% of the time I prefer to either unhook the fish while its still in the net (in the water) or I unclip my hooklink. (Thats why i like those clips so much)...
Another point that you just made me think of is that you need to tuck in the carp's fins against its body, before lifting the fish out of the water!!!
The line and the landing net... I sometimes think it causes more damage to the fish's mouth then than during the actual fight! 90% of the time I prefer to either unhook the fish while its still in the net (in the water) or I unclip my hooklink. (Thats why i like those clips so much)...
Another point that you just made me think of is that you need to tuck in the carp's fins against its body, before lifting the fish out of the water!!!
What about unhooking mats lying in the sun and heating up? If its too hot put the unhooking mat in the shade, even under the vehicle and pull it out when needed... or turn it upside down so that the top surface doesnt heat up, Then splash water over it. Otherwise you gonna have fried fish for din din hehehe!