GALJOEN VERMINDER NA 1

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Blackpylie

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I actually feel the Galjoen are doing quite fine at the moment, there are plenty of fish if you know how to fish for them and under what conditions, maybe not as plentiful as 50 years ago.Spearfisherman in Bettys bay often come across shoals of fish of about 30 - 50. with some individuals over 3 kilos, lots of catches of Galjoen have been made recently, fish between 4 - 6 kilos,

I also think Marine reserves do play an important role in providing fish to Neigboring areas and more focus should be placed on establishing more of these

No reason why they should bring the quota down to one fish per individual.
 
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Blaasop

Sealiner
Two things from my side:

1. A local spearfisherman I know well has been diving the Walkerbay area as well as Struisbaai, etc. for more than 20 years. He  also confirms that there are now more galjoen out there than previously. I know it's heresay, but I see no reason why he should exaggerate, purely because  he is not  so interested in bankfish, but mostly target geelstert and tuna.

2. I also concur with another contributor on this thread regarding stricter policies. Eventually you will drive away most of the good guys, because they are soft targets.

I read an article some time ago about a total ban on a certain species and the author made out quite an eloquent argument that such a move will take that specific species out of the "collective memory" of anglers. Eventually few will remember them, and even fewer will bother. Open season for poachers and others of that ilk.

He drew an analogy with perlemoen, which I find a pretty good one. Years ago I went diving for perlemoen a couple of times a season, took my quota and ate it myself. Perlemoen is barely mentioned nowadays, except when a big bust is made by the police. The average guy does not ponder about the future of it anymore because he has no link to perlemoen any more. I think poaching is still thriving, though.

Sad state of affairs, indeed. 
 
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daniel gribble

New member
Dit is nie net dwarskersbos nie,dit gebeur van uit veldrif(veldrif manne) wat net steek vanaf veldrif op verby varkvlei tot op Laingville!!!eks van Laingville of het daar groot geword en in ons dorp is nog nie eens 20 hengelaars nie maar galjoen vang jy nie vanaf laingville tot by varkvlei van die kant af nie,maar die manne met die nette stroop ons plek Dol leeg!
 
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Blaasop

Sealiner
daniel gribble wrote:
Dit is nie net dwarskersbos nie,dit gebeur van uit veldrif(veldrif manne) wat net steek vanaf veldrif op verby varkvlei tot op Laingville!!!eks van Laingville of het daar groot geword en in ons dorp is nog nie eens 20 hengelaars nie maar galjoen vang jy nie vanaf laingville tot by varkvlei van die kant af nie,maar die manne met die nette stroop ons plek Dol leeg!
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Ek wil nie onnodig op tone trap nie, maar met 'n besoek aan die Weskus baie jare gelede het ek die idee gekry (na gesprekke met verskeie persone) dat dit 'n algemene praktyk in sekere dele is. Almal weet daarvan, maar niemand doen iets daaraan nie.

Is dit nog steeds so 'n algemene praktyk?
 
Marthin

Marthin

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yip blaasop... die manne ry snags met die rubberduck sonder ligte jy hoor hulle verbykom, sit die net in tussen die riwwe by soverby, jy hoor hulle terwyl jy in die nag hengel, en kom haal hom weer more aand.
 
Marthin

Marthin

Sealiner
Blackpylie wrote:
I actually feel the Galjoen are doing quite fine at the moment, there are plenty of fish if you know how to fish for them and under what conditions, maybe not as plentiful as 50 years ago.Spearfisherman in Bettys bay often come across shoals of fish of about 30 - 50. with some individuals over 3 kilos, lots of catches of Galjoen have been made recently, fish between 4 - 6 kilos,

I also think Marine reserves do play an important role in providing fish to Neigboring areas and more focus should be placed on establishing more of these

No reason why they should bring the quota down to one fish per individual.
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Pylie hier le die probleem.  Die vis wat jy van praat die vis oor 3 kg.... hulle is almal meer as 12 jaar oud.  Die huidige regulasies het nie gemaak dat hulle so oud raak nie.  Die probleem is ook dat as 2 van daardie size visse uitgehaal word, wat is die impak in plaas van 1 van daardie size visse... kyk veral na die hoeveelheid eiers per gram... Onthou regulasies word bepaal met die idee dat almal by dit gaan hou. As die ouens wat die reels maak moet in ag neem dat daar X hoeveelheid nie by dit gaan hou nie, sal ons nie toegelaat word om enige iets te hou nie!

Females grow faster than males, attaining some 550 mm or 3,3 kg at 12 years of age, whereas males of the same age reach only 440 mm or 1,5 kg. Fish of both sexes attain sexual maturity in their sixth year, at which stage females measure 340 mm and males 310 mm. Galjoen are serial spawners with a breeding season that extends from October to March, peaking in December. Mature females produce approximately 370 eggs per gramme of body mass at each spawning.
 
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killer strepie

Sealiner
Marthin wrote:
Blackpylie wrote:
I actually feel the Galjoen are doing quite fine at the moment, there are plenty of fish if you know how to fish for them and under what conditions, maybe not as plentiful as 50 years ago.Spearfisherman in Bettys bay often come across shoals of fish of about 30 - 50. with some individuals over 3 kilos, lots of catches of Galjoen have been made recently, fish between 4 - 6 kilos,

I also think Marine reserves do play an important role in providing fish to Neigboring areas and more focus should be placed on establishing more of these

No reason why they should bring the quota down to one fish per individual.
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Pylie hier le die probleem.  Die vis wat jy van praat die vis oor 3 kg.... hulle is almal meer as 12 jaar oud.  Die huidige regulasies het nie gemaak dat hulle so oud raak nie.  Die probleem is ook dat as 2 van daardie size visse uitgehaal word, wat is die impak in plaas van 1 van daardie size visse... kyk veral na die hoeveelheid eiers per gram... Onthou regulasies word bepaal met die idee dat almal by dit gaan hou. As die ouens wat die reels maak moet in ag neem dat daar X hoeveelheid nie by dit gaan hou nie, sal ons nie toegelaat word om enige iets te hou nie!

Females grow faster than males, attaining some 550 mm or 3,3 kg at 12 years of age, whereas males of the same age reach only 440 mm or 1,5 kg. Fish of both sexes attain sexual maturity in their sixth year, at which stage females measure 340 mm and males 310 mm. Galjoen are serial spawners with a breeding season that extends from October to March, peaking in December. Mature females produce approximately 370 eggs per gramme of body mass at each spawning.
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Goeie stukkie leesstof....................so ons moet eintlik net n foto van daai 500mm plus visse neem asof om hulle te braai:wfish
 
Marthin

Marthin

Sealiner
Ja dis beter vir die langtermyn as die pitte weer terug gaan. Selfde as die groot kabeljou. Die effek van hulle teruggooi of van hulle hou sal mens nie nou sien nie, maar eers oor 12 jaar van nou af.
 
Marthin

Marthin

Sealiner
5kg vis = 1 750 000 eiers
1kg vis = 350 000 eiers

Behalwe vir goeie gene, moet jy weet daar is ten minste 5 ander 1kg galjoene in die area as jy 1 5kg vis uithaal. Dis net om die getalle dieselfde te hou. Hou ingedagte die netsteker van veldrift met 70 galjoene in one shot.... kom ons average die gallies op 1kg en se die helfte was wyfies.

35 X 1000 X 350 = 12 250 000 eiers gone. Nee dis nie my skuld of jou skuld nie dis daai sleg hond se skuld, maar ons moet maar van ons kant af probeer opmaak. Of iemand moet 35 1kg gallies release, of ons hoef net 7 groot gallies te release.
 
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