For light to medium jigging / general purpose&nbsp

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Echo7

Senior Member
For light to medium jigging / general purpose in 8000 size which is the better reel..

I have a friend going to the U.S next week and he can get either one, the Sargosa is R200 more than the Stradic.

BTW the Saragosa 8000 with 300yds of  50lbs Berkley Fireline works out to R2136 incl shipping from Cabelas. The Sustain 8000 comes in at R2418.

Your thoughts..

 
 
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aquadementia

Sealiner
Saragosa 8000 is a smaller reel than you would imagine. Personally, I'd put 30lb whiplash or Tracer Fireline on. I dont think there is much difference between the Saragosa and Sustain in the 8000 size. If you can afford the above then forget about the Stradic
 
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Guest

Guest
Hello Mate

Try chatting to Nepps. He rates the Saragosa highly. Boys in the US landing big bluefin on them. For what its worth. I have two 4000 Sustains that I use off of my Kayak to catch leeries and they are great little reels. Handle fish to 9kg with ease. Best thing may be to put both of those reels on the rod that you intend to use them on and feel which you like best. I do not think that there is much to seperate them. Also look on Shimano website. You can compare the specs of the two reels in a table next to each other. Look at weight, max drag, line capacity, gear ratio, line per handle turn and all kinds of good things.

I have a feeling that the Saragosa may be a slightly more robust reel than the Sustain, meant more for offshore type fishing.

Either way you will get a great reel.

Anton
 
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tkei

Sealiner
For 200 bucks, go saragosa. As said before, read the jigging section, highly rated without the price of stella.
 
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Guest

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Sargosa

Family/Type 



 

 

Sustain

Family/Type


Offshore Spinning

Spinning




SR-Concept






Construction

Construction

Aluminum Frame

Aluminum Frame with Graphite

Graphite Rotor (Aluminum on 14000
Sideplates and Rotor

& 18000 sizes)









Bearings


Bearings

5 A-RB Ball Bearings (6 on 14000
7 S A-RB Ball Bearings,

& 18000 sizes)


1 Roller Bearing

1 Roller Bearing








Cast Control

Cast Control

N/A


N/A






Drag Type


Drag Type

Waterproof Drag, Dartainium Drag
Front

(6000-18000 sizes only)








Anti-Reverse

Anti-Reverse

Super Stopper II

Super Stopper II






Spool


Spool

Cold Forged Aluminum Spool

Cold Forged Aluminum Spool




with Titanium Lip (Spare




Included)






Gear Ratio


Gear Ratio

6.0:1 (3000 & 4000 models)

6.0:1 (1000, 2500, 3000)

5.2:1 (5000 - 8000 models)

5.8:1 (4000)

4.9:1 (14000 & 18000 models)

5.7:1 (5000, 6000, 8000)











Special Features

Special Features

Paladin Gear Durability Enhancement
Paladin Gear Durability




Enancement

Propulsion Line Management System





Propulsion Line

Stopperless Design

Management System

(No Anti-Reverse Switch)






Aero Wrap II Oscillation

Fluidrive II







Super Stopper II

Dyna-Balance







Fluidrive II

Power Roller III






Dyna-Balance

Aerowave Oscillation



(3000-8000 sizes only)

Power Roller II






Aero Wrap Oscillation

Floating Shaft

(14000 & 18000 sizes only)






MSRP

Direct Drive Mechanism

SA1000FE $249.99




SA2500FE $249.99

Drilled Spool Skirt

SA3000FE $249.99




SA4000FE $269.99

Titanium Spool Lip

SA5000FE $269.99




SA6000FE $299.99

Ergonomic Handle Grips

SA8000FE $299.99






S-Arm Cam









One-Piece Bail Wire








Septon Handle Grips








Repairable Clicker








Optional Kit available for No Bail Wire


configuration on 14000 & 18000 sizes.


Part number: SWBAILKIT








MSRP




SRG3000F $189.99



SRG4000F $189.99



SRG5000F $219.99



SRG6000F $219.99



SRG8000F $229.99



SRG14000F $299.99



SRG18000F $299.99
 
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Guest

Guest
Sorry that did not work so well. Chart looked good in the preview but posted badly.

Apologies

Anton
 
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Guest

Guest
Depending what you going to be using it for, you may want to look at 14 000 Saragosa. Max drag goes up dratically from smaller models.
 
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Nepptune

Sealiner
Hi guys,

All 3 reels mentioned above are awesome, Stradic, Sustain and Saragosa... All fantastic, and well proven... just ask Hammertime how many fish his Stradic 8000 has scalped.... I think upwards of 500 now, including a bunch of Longfin and Yellowtail and bunches of Snoek... it also whipped a pretty sizable Bronzie in short order!

For the R 200 extra, I would go with the Saragosa, and spool it with 30lb to 50lb braid..... depedning on what you're gonna be needing it or using it for.... you should get about 380 or even 400 metres of 30lb on her, or just about 300 metres of 50lb .... I think they come with a spare spool, so one of each I guess for different usages...

Either way, you are going to have a great reel in your hands if you choose any of those 3.
 
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Dingleberry

Senior Member
I own a 4000 Saragosa, a 2500 Sustain and an 8000 Sustain amongst others. I use them mostly from a boat but the little Sustain has seen use from a kayak and the shore and has been dunked in the salt - without issue. I have never opened it, just rinsed it in fresh water and lubed - the bearings are still dead quiet. I've used it for about 2 years and caught around 100 fish on it. The Saragosa has only been used from the boat and has given great service with no maintenance required. The Sustain 8000 is a huge disappointment. I have only caught a handful of fish on it and the drag is catchy (?) - it jerks. It seems that even a small amount of salt spray enters the drag system and screws it up. I don't know why there would be a difference between the sizes but it is clearly evident. I have also heard other people complaining about this. My advice is to go with the Saragosa in the larger sizes.
 
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Echo7

Senior Member
Bought the following:

Saragosa 8000
PowerPro braid 20lb green
PowerPro braid 40lb green
PowerPro braid 80lb green

Total R2480.00
Unreal compared to S.A prices...I dont mean to start a price debate.
 
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Nepptune

Sealiner
Great deal Echo, and congrats on your purchase buddy, hope it brings you mountains of happiness and a ton of good fish!
 
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neilg

Sealiner
Echo7 wrote:
Bought the following:

Saragosa 8000
PowerPro braid 20lb green
PowerPro braid 40lb green
PowerPro braid 80lb green

Total R2480.00
Unreal compared to S.A prices...I dont mean to start a price debate.
Click to expand...

that's unbelievable prices

is that landed in SA prices or online price ?

where ?

For that Price I'dd like some 2
 
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Echo7

Senior Member
Friend of mine from here is going to the U.S for 2 weeks to see his chick in Florida.
Bought gear online from Anglers Center and shipped to local U.S address(free shipping on orders over $200).
The stuff gets there, he collects and brings it to me!! The internet is a beautiful thing.
 
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Echo7

Senior Member
The total price for all that was $310.00

Current Exchange rate:
Live rates at 2009.06.26 08:07:54 UTC
310.00 USD = 2,479.77 ZAR
United States Dollars South Africa Rand
1 USD = 7.99926 ZAR 1 ZAR = 0.125012 USD
 
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Echo7

Senior Member
Got all my stuff Thursday, the Saragosa is a machine!! Absolutley smooth, feels VERY solid can't wait to try it out. Spooling it with 40lb Power Pro braid.
Got a Shimano Exage 80 to hang the reel on, anyone with experience on this kind of set up?
 
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