Fishing permits/why not a card?
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BlouWalvis
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Here in the Netherlands, as UK, you must aquire a "VISPAS" card to be able to fish.
You get a Shore Angling card, Boat Anglingcard, Freshwater card ect ect. The difference here is that you can only obtain the card from your regional club within the area you stay, whether or not you are a member. It allows for the Club to make a % profit and the rest goes to the National and Eviromental bodies. It think it would be a much quicker, easier method than the traditional government post office that does not know anything of the sport of fishing.
You get a Shore Angling card, Boat Anglingcard, Freshwater card ect ect. The difference here is that you can only obtain the card from your regional club within the area you stay, whether or not you are a member. It allows for the Club to make a % profit and the rest goes to the National and Eviromental bodies. It think it would be a much quicker, easier method than the traditional government post office that does not know anything of the sport of fishing.
Just a side note.
Many anglers also catch crayfish. Your crayfish catch details need to be written on the back of your fishing licence, in ink, as soon as you have caught your allotted crayfish quota.
The card type licence would be AWESOME, but how would one go about recording your crayfish catch's? You'd still have to have some sort of official paper to fill out your catch returns on..........
Back to square one!! ARGH!!
I've lost so many permits, its not even funny!! I rock and surf, boat fish, spearfish, crayfish and between all of these facets, its VERY easy to lose your permit or get it wet. No replacements given.......just got to buy a new one......
Many anglers also catch crayfish. Your crayfish catch details need to be written on the back of your fishing licence, in ink, as soon as you have caught your allotted crayfish quota.
The card type licence would be AWESOME, but how would one go about recording your crayfish catch's? You'd still have to have some sort of official paper to fill out your catch returns on..........
Back to square one!! ARGH!!
I've lost so many permits, its not even funny!! I rock and surf, boat fish, spearfish, crayfish and between all of these facets, its VERY easy to lose your permit or get it wet. No replacements given.......just got to buy a new one......
miles wrote:
Just a side note.
Many anglers also catch crayfish. Your crayfish catch details need to be written on the back of your fishing licence, in ink, as soon as you have caught your allotted crayfish quota.
The card type licence would be AWESOME, but how would one go about recording your crayfish catch's? You'd still have to have some sort of official paper to fill out your catch returns on..........
Back to square one!! ARGH!!
I've lost so many permits, its not even funny!! I rock and surf, boat fish, spearfish, crayfish and between all of these facets, its VERY easy to lose your permit or get it wet.
No replacements given.......just got to buy a new one......
I wonder why you need to fill in the details for crayfish
You are only allowed 4 crayfish per person, per day. You MUST fill the form out as SOON as you have landed you allotted 4.
This is meant to stop guys from taking out 4 crays, then taking it home, coming back and taking another 4, which also goes home and then coming back for a 3rd or 4th or 5th time.............
The inspectors are quite strict and i've seen quite a few guys fined for not having their forms filled out.......
This is meant to stop guys from taking out 4 crays, then taking it home, coming back and taking another 4, which also goes home and then coming back for a 3rd or 4th or 5th time.............
The inspectors are quite strict and i've seen quite a few guys fined for not having their forms filled out.......
I have no prob with the new paper permit. All I do is store it in a water proof bank bag and leave it in my tackle box for any inspection. In days gone by you used to have go to a PB office to get a permit which was WAY farther than my local post office. I fear a card system would only increase the price of the permit and decrease the number of purchasing points.
speartackle
Senior Member
Because there is no way in SA to satisfy everybody
Akram Cassim
New member
if the parks board comes around..you don't have to leave your rod and attend to them by showing them the licence....the card can be around our necks or bags and they can have a look at it...I did have an incident where I was getting bites parks board ask to see my licence....pissed of with that....
speartackle
Senior Member
Joemat se ou rooi aas d**s.
Hi
I am not to clued up on the tech. but seeing that you have to have your paper licence and id with you.
You can now start to apply for your barcoded ID cards not books but ID cards like your drivers licence. Cant you link your fishing permit Payment to that new Barcoded ID card. It will serve a dual purpose ID card and have your full pedigree and you payment status for your fishing permit on there. Like said before let the federalies earn their keep and walk around with mobile scanners.
I vote for a once off card and to top up yearly.
Cheers
Malboer
I am not to clued up on the tech. but seeing that you have to have your paper licence and id with you.
You can now start to apply for your barcoded ID cards not books but ID cards like your drivers licence. Cant you link your fishing permit Payment to that new Barcoded ID card. It will serve a dual purpose ID card and have your full pedigree and you payment status for your fishing permit on there. Like said before let the federalies earn their keep and walk around with mobile scanners.
I vote for a once off card and to top up yearly.
Cheers
Malboer
Ha ha ha Miles
I can see your problem and i do agree with the catch record.
But it is a joke. On the present system any one can have 3 or more permits from different post offices( use the excuse that my old one got wet and is messed up. No replacement) use one go back home use another drop their catch ect. Hoping that i dont run into the same inspector on the same day.
I dont have the answer but a solid card is a step in the right direction.
Cheers
Malboer
I can see your problem and i do agree with the catch record.
But it is a joke. On the present system any one can have 3 or more permits from different post offices( use the excuse that my old one got wet and is messed up. No replacement) use one go back home use another drop their catch ect. Hoping that i dont run into the same inspector on the same day.
I dont have the answer but a solid card is a step in the right direction.
Cheers
Malboer
Reviving an old topic.
In the USA you purchase a fishing permit and receive a permit number as well as the paper permit. All one needs is the number and a valid ID, and the law enforcement officer checks by phoning/or browsing on internet to verify you have a valid permit. No cards/papers required, only your verifyable ID.
In the USA you purchase a fishing permit and receive a permit number as well as the paper permit. All one needs is the number and a valid ID, and the law enforcement officer checks by phoning/or browsing on internet to verify you have a valid permit. No cards/papers required, only your verifyable ID.
Dr halibut hoffman
Moderator
Ja no..but that requires working government systems and a centrally maintained database which would just by itself solve the issue that the card here is proposed to which is preventing one from having to buy another when one looses their only copy. Fisheries management in SA is a joke and a new fishing license is the least of their concerns, unless they can make some more easy money out of it.
I've only had my license checked once in all my years of fishing (30+) and the first start is policing fisheries. The second is to have limits worth enforcing and commercial stock allocations need to be sorted out as the status quo (except in one or two fisheries regarding stock) is stuff the stock, grab as much as one can and stuff the recreationals.
We need far more major and deeply rooted changes than a new license card or fishing number, but thanks for your comment, you are 100% correct, a simple system would solve the issue This is SA though and simple systems go over most peoples heads including those in gov'.
I've only had my license checked once in all my years of fishing (30+) and the first start is policing fisheries. The second is to have limits worth enforcing and commercial stock allocations need to be sorted out as the status quo (except in one or two fisheries regarding stock) is stuff the stock, grab as much as one can and stuff the recreationals.
We need far more major and deeply rooted changes than a new license card or fishing number, but thanks for your comment, you are 100% correct, a simple system would solve the issue This is SA though and simple systems go over most peoples heads including those in gov'.
MichaelK
Sealiner
Fantastic idea, but unfortunately in our country if this system were to be rolled out it would go to a tender process and be allocated to one of the ministers mates lining his / her pocket. This simple system would then cost hundreds of millions to implement and our annual fishing permit costs would increase 10 fold.
Nothing is simple in this country, unfortunately
Nothing is simple in this country, unfortunately