Finding the right spot!
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The way I know is lets say you fishing from the shore in relatively calm conditions where there are waves but they arent too big, if you look at the white water of the wave, you will notice a section that is not broken with white water either side of it, that is the "hole". Or if there is a section of waves behind then a calm patch with waves in front of it, i would call that a channel or a hole.
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Thats right Nick... the reason a wave "breaks" is primarily because of "drag" on the ocean floor. The shallower the water, the quicker the wave will break. The deeper the water, the longer the wave can run without breaking until it hits shallower water - as the bottom water contacts the floor, the friction slows the bottom of the wave down, causing the top of the wave to fall. So generally speaking, white water means shallower, clear blue means deeper. Often, as in the picture that Nick shows, there is a sandbank far out, then a hole/gully, then another sandbank. In these deeper gullies, the predators often lurk, waiting for the bait fish that feed in the banks of the gullies.
... make sense??
... make sense??
Most of the big predators will lie in the holes the species that feed on stuff stirred up by waves (crabs, worms etc) will feed on the banks........
Large sharks will lie in holes, but spooted gullies and smoothounds will be on the banks.
The leeries and kingfish will be in the holes, but the steenbras and cob will be on the banks or on the edges of the banks!!
Large sharks will lie in holes, but spooted gullies and smoothounds will be on the banks.
The leeries and kingfish will be in the holes, but the steenbras and cob will be on the banks or on the edges of the banks!!
Noweeds wrote:
Hi
I generally use a grab (with the plastic grips) to cast bait next to a hole, allowing you a couple of minutes before it get sucked into the hole. This, makes me think (most probably makes me feel better) that I stand a good chance with eg. Cob on the banks and the other predators in the hole.
ciao
K
Hi
I generally use a grab (with the plastic grips) to cast bait next to a hole, allowing you a couple of minutes before it get sucked into the hole. This, makes me think (most probably makes me feel better) that I stand a good chance with eg. Cob on the banks and the other predators in the hole.
ciao
K
Hi Salty
Try standing on a high vantage point and follow Nick's advice to spot the hole. Also, do not confuse a gutter and a hole.
Gutter is generally (not exclusive) on the first break of the wave (right at the back) and could be viewed in the same way as a house gutter. A hole is generally where there is no break of wave within a set of waves. Standing from a high vantage point like sand dunes or even your vehicle along a stretch of beach would give an indication of where they lurk.
Please note that holes generally have a riptide type action and should be avoided when wading so rather go around them especially if the whole has a drag of 20 metres plus.
ciao
K
Try standing on a high vantage point and follow Nick's advice to spot the hole. Also, do not confuse a gutter and a hole.
Gutter is generally (not exclusive) on the first break of the wave (right at the back) and could be viewed in the same way as a house gutter. A hole is generally where there is no break of wave within a set of waves. Standing from a high vantage point like sand dunes or even your vehicle along a stretch of beach would give an indication of where they lurk.
Please note that holes generally have a riptide type action and should be avoided when wading so rather go around them especially if the whole has a drag of 20 metres plus.
ciao
K
Great topic. I have another question on this topic. Sometimes I think I see a hole where there is no white water, but then 4 waves later the waves break on that spot and create white water again. Is this still a hole?
When you do get a hole in clear water, where do you throw? I have heard that you watse your time during the day and must fish that hole at night only?
Your comments please
When you do get a hole in clear water, where do you throw? I have heard that you watse your time during the day and must fish that hole at night only?
Your comments please
crabman wrote:
Hi Crabman
Holes generally appear deeper and denser in colour and if viewing from a high vantage point should be clearer to spot. Standing flat or close to the water deceives quite a bit. Also try to view for about ten minutes if unsure. Hope this helps
Clear water generally is better to be fished at night due to the cover given to the feeding fish. Most probably like commando's using the night to provide a camouflage - ouch watching to many war movies. ciao
Hi Crabman
Holes generally appear deeper and denser in colour and if viewing from a high vantage point should be clearer to spot. Standing flat or close to the water deceives quite a bit. Also try to view for about ten minutes if unsure. Hope this helps
Clear water generally is better to be fished at night due to the cover given to the feeding fish. Most probably like commando's using the night to provide a camouflage - ouch watching to many war movies. ciao
Reefman wrote:
Havent given the Beachmaster a go yet, Im still thinking of taking it back and getting the trigger winch model but that will only be in two or so weeks. Any ideas on the trigger winch? Is it worth waiting for?
Personally I think a hole can be fished day or night, I was recently in hermanus fishing along side about 15 other guys. I thought I spotted a nice hole a bit away so I walked to it and gave it a throw, out came a 4.5kg Steenbras. So yes, a hole is productive during the day.
Havent given the Beachmaster a go yet, Im still thinking of taking it back and getting the trigger winch model but that will only be in two or so weeks. Any ideas on the trigger winch? Is it worth waiting for?
Personally I think a hole can be fished day or night, I was recently in hermanus fishing along side about 15 other guys. I thought I spotted a nice hole a bit away so I walked to it and gave it a throw, out came a 4.5kg Steenbras. So yes, a hole is productive during the day.
Nick, I actually battled like mad one night when my whole rig got really wet and stayed wet in the rain... everytime I wanted to cast, my hand would slip on the reel... so I longed for that trigger then. It's all OK when everything is going well, but when conditions get tricky, thats when you need that trigger...
I reckon it's well worth the wait - just gives you more confidence and stops that irritating slip that lets your sinker go sideways in the rain.... There's another dude called MANTIS on the forum - I think he has a trigger on his beachmaster - ask him for some input.... I know they did some serious fishing and wading at Pearly Beach a few weeks ago, in full-on storm conditions...
I reckon it's well worth the wait - just gives you more confidence and stops that irritating slip that lets your sinker go sideways in the rain.... There's another dude called MANTIS on the forum - I think he has a trigger on his beachmaster - ask him for some input.... I know they did some serious fishing and wading at Pearly Beach a few weeks ago, in full-on storm conditions...
I spoke to a guy at Western Accesories, about what to do whan the whole rig and the hands are wet. What he did was zip tie a length of bicycle tube at the butt of the rod below the reel. When you cast you stretch the bike tube until you get it under your thumb to hold the reel for the cast. When you cast, your thumb releases the bike tube, and with it being made of rubber, it release back out of the way. Theoretically the rubber will hold your reel better i the wet than your thumb will.
I have not tried this, but it sounded good.
Ian F
I have not tried this, but it sounded good.
Ian F
