I hear what you say Reefman but I usually keep my little Petzl headlight on to watch my reel and still manage to catch fish,with a big spotlight it may be different.There's many places that have streetlights eg.Rheebok,Tergniet, Kleinbrak that is a excellent place for kob at night and you are only 30 metres away from the parking and the big lights.But I agree with you,the darker the better.
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Def-e-nition
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Morning Girls . !
And - true to form - I never disappoint ..
And before you all die of a heart attack - let me say - you can all relax.
the sinker broke off MID cast . SO the Casting is bak gat now .
I jus thought I'd remind you that we can all be the victim Of a nasty "koek "(cough ..)
No matter how much practice you get in - ThIS one hits you before you Know it !
Morning REEF !
Yea- I cut off - after an hour of sitting there in the dark - I reckoned- bloody Richelieu is gonna evaporate by the time I get home .....
Saturday's fishing with the sl 30 went Flawlessly .
.40 RELIX line ( Reef- soft line -works like a Charm pal -NICE LINE - I bought another roll of .45mm too ) The 14 Ft Loomis , and my New casting machine .What a pleasure .
Still No big ones yet . but 8 Hours solid of good fishing with no wind-ups . a Man's gotta love it ... !
I never thought I'd see myself doing this - but I've now switched from going heavier and heavier tackle , to lighter and lighter . The Loomis is lighter than the BM , the 30 is smaller with lighter tackle on , i cast with lighter sinkers .
Happiness .
And all because some bright spark mentioned brake blocks and line thicknesses to me ...
LOL .
you go boys , you Go .
And - true to form - I never disappoint ..
And before you all die of a heart attack - let me say - you can all relax.
the sinker broke off MID cast . SO the Casting is bak gat now .
I jus thought I'd remind you that we can all be the victim Of a nasty "koek "(cough ..)
No matter how much practice you get in - ThIS one hits you before you Know it !
Morning REEF !
Yea- I cut off - after an hour of sitting there in the dark - I reckoned- bloody Richelieu is gonna evaporate by the time I get home .....
Saturday's fishing with the sl 30 went Flawlessly .
.40 RELIX line ( Reef- soft line -works like a Charm pal -NICE LINE - I bought another roll of .45mm too ) The 14 Ft Loomis , and my New casting machine .What a pleasure .
Still No big ones yet . but 8 Hours solid of good fishing with no wind-ups . a Man's gotta love it ... !
I never thought I'd see myself doing this - but I've now switched from going heavier and heavier tackle , to lighter and lighter . The Loomis is lighter than the BM , the 30 is smaller with lighter tackle on , i cast with lighter sinkers .
Happiness .
And all because some bright spark mentioned brake blocks and line thicknesses to me ...
LOL .
you go boys , you Go .
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[color=#006600]Def-e-nition[/color] wrote:
depending on your casting style it can also go the other way.... my furthest casts are with a torium30 and exage 1468 med tip, my purglass 400/1 and daiwa 30sha lags about 10 to 15m behind...which I can live with, as on the purglass I use a 3.5oz sinker and the exage a 6.5oz sinker. sh30 is spooled with .35mm T-Line Titatium and tor30 is spooled with .45mm XX hi abrasion. the exage requires a bit of a swing and a mighty punch to get it working (my style), whereas the 400/1 needs a more delicate smooth sweeping cast...the spool braking on the sha30 is with the little white blocks and on the torium it's good ole thumb work.
Great post, information overload...
I visited two tackle shops to have a look at this "casting machine", SLX30SHA that is. Both times I was told that this reel is best suited for river fishing due to its limited line capacity. Is this reel suited for rock and surf fishing? It was suggested that the 40 would be a better choice for R&S.
I visited two tackle shops to have a look at this "casting machine", SLX30SHA that is. Both times I was told that this reel is best suited for river fishing due to its limited line capacity. Is this reel suited for rock and surf fishing? It was suggested that the 40 would be a better choice for R&S.
Def-e-nition
Sealiner
[color=#006600]visasem[/color] wrote:
Can one Get a 40 In this sl Range ? If so - Put it this way- Saltist 30 , 40 , or 50 . Torium 30 .
If i had One choice- And this would be tough - then I'd choose between the torium 30 and slatist 40 .
why ?
Based Purely On size . The 50 is , a little big , and the 30 , admittedly , Is perhaps a little too small when going for Really big fish .
Line capacity is not really an issue - If a fish spools me On .40 13.6 kg Line and gets away with it - he deserves it . I am tired of having a warn winch to catch edibles , and after using the 50 and 30 Back to back - I must agree that lighter tackle is pretty good fun man .
If you can find a 40 Sl - by all means . I had tunnel vision and only saw 50 , or 30 .
But If I could only buy One reel Again - It woud be a torium 30- as it's almost the size of a saltist 40 , or the saltist 40 .
I prefer having 2 Reels though , and there is NOTHING wrong with an Sl 30 man . absolutely Nothing .
I have learnt a great Deal from this post . Were it Not for this post , I don't think I would have even bothered to try sort out my casting blues .
It's all thanks to the guys on the forum that certain issues were resolved , information shared , and "secrets"( This thing has casting Brakes??!) came out .
Take the 40 If you can find one .
Great post, information overload...
I visited two tackle shops to have a look at this "casting machine", SLX30SHA that is. Both times I was told that this reel is best suited for river fishing due to its limited line capacity. Is this reel suited for rock and surf fishing? It was suggested that the 40 would be a better choice for R&S.
Can one Get a 40 In this sl Range ? If so - Put it this way- Saltist 30 , 40 , or 50 . Torium 30 .
If i had One choice- And this would be tough - then I'd choose between the torium 30 and slatist 40 .
why ?
Based Purely On size . The 50 is , a little big , and the 30 , admittedly , Is perhaps a little too small when going for Really big fish .
Line capacity is not really an issue - If a fish spools me On .40 13.6 kg Line and gets away with it - he deserves it . I am tired of having a warn winch to catch edibles , and after using the 50 and 30 Back to back - I must agree that lighter tackle is pretty good fun man .
If you can find a 40 Sl - by all means . I had tunnel vision and only saw 50 , or 30 .
But If I could only buy One reel Again - It woud be a torium 30- as it's almost the size of a saltist 40 , or the saltist 40 .
I prefer having 2 Reels though , and there is NOTHING wrong with an Sl 30 man . absolutely Nothing .
I have learnt a great Deal from this post . Were it Not for this post , I don't think I would have even bothered to try sort out my casting blues .
It's all thanks to the guys on the forum that certain issues were resolved , information shared , and "secrets"( This thing has casting Brakes??!) came out .
Take the 40 If you can find one .
Hello Def,
Thing is I do have a Torium 30, great reel. However I find it a bit on the heavy side for edibles. The rod that I use it on is the BM G3 14" and this combo makes for a back breaking day's of fishing.
I want to shift more to the lighter side and maybe use the SL30 on my other BM (G3 360:2-4, much lighter and more enjoyable to use). I intend targeting edibles (rock and surf). I am therefore not sure if the SL-X30 has the capacity when it comes to (especially) rock fishing (is 0.4 not too ligth to scracth in between rocks?). Some comments maybe?
Lastly I am also after better casting distance. I just cannot seem to get beyond the breakers with the the Torium 30 and the BM 14". Maybe not "balanced", I dont know. All I know it is heavy....
I have read the various outstanding threads concerning the SL-X30 and the good casting distances. That got me started with the whole SL30 thing. Please help
Thing is I do have a Torium 30, great reel. However I find it a bit on the heavy side for edibles. The rod that I use it on is the BM G3 14" and this combo makes for a back breaking day's of fishing.
I want to shift more to the lighter side and maybe use the SL30 on my other BM (G3 360:2-4, much lighter and more enjoyable to use). I intend targeting edibles (rock and surf). I am therefore not sure if the SL-X30 has the capacity when it comes to (especially) rock fishing (is 0.4 not too ligth to scracth in between rocks?). Some comments maybe?
Lastly I am also after better casting distance. I just cannot seem to get beyond the breakers with the the Torium 30 and the BM 14". Maybe not "balanced", I dont know. All I know it is heavy
....I have read the various outstanding threads concerning the SL-X30 and the good casting distances. That got me started with the whole SL30 thing. Please help
[color=#006600]visasem[/color] wrote:
Fish breath... the combo mentioned above is a fabulous match... you will have great success with this - u can fish all day. If you're worried about line capacity on the SL30, then put some (270m) 30lb Braid on it... Whiplash pro, Sufix or Powerpro... then cover that with 150m of 0.4mm nylon... thats more than enough capacity for edibles. On top of the 0.4 line, use 8-9m of 0.7mm-0.8mm leader to prevent getting knackered on the rocks... have fun!
[color=#006600]visasem[/color] wrote:
If it's distance in casting you're after, then the Grandwave is the one to go for... it's Drive shaft disengages totally in free spool mode, allowing smoother and further casting....
Thanks Reefman,
So it is confirmed, casting distance will improve with the grand waves with the disengaging spool system and, line capacity not a problem on the 30.
When would one use the SL30 as opposed to the SL40?
I heard a comment that the reeling-in can become tedious after long casts with the SL30 due to its relatively smaller spool diameter. This will however be less for the 40 due to the relatively bigger spool diameter. After a few hours of fishing this will inevitably diminish the fun factor.
I don’t want to get a 40 and later learn that a 30 would have been better (for edibles on a 12" rod using a 3-4 oz weight). Furthermore, should I want to use a 14" stick would the 40 not be more balanced? Any thoughts?
Ai al die keuses!
VA
So it is confirmed, casting distance will improve with the grand waves with the disengaging spool system and, line capacity not a problem on the 30.
When would one use the SL30 as opposed to the SL40?
I heard a comment that the reeling-in can become tedious after long casts with the SL30 due to its relatively smaller spool diameter. This will however be less for the 40 due to the relatively bigger spool diameter. After a few hours of fishing this will inevitably diminish the fun factor.
I don’t want to get a 40 and later learn that a 30 would have been better (for edibles on a 12" rod using a 3-4 oz weight). Furthermore, should I want to use a 14" stick would the 40 not be more balanced? Any thoughts?
Ai al die keuses!
VA
[color=#006600]visasem[/color] wrote:
As far as I'm aware, there is no such reel as a SL40??? There is a Grandwave 40 though.
The SL30 would fit on both 12ft and 14ft rods, but the Size 40 Grandwave might be a little heavy for a 12 ft rod, in my personal opinion.
But if you want to buy right first time, then get yourself a Saltist 30H - it's more expensive, but MUCH better quality in all departments - I use one on anything from 11ft Spinning rods right up to a 14ft HMG, it casts a mile... still my best reel ever! Small, compact, great quality and feels goooood! Ask Walt, GL, Tony Coetzer, Weedeater and many other guys who own them... simply a marvellous reel.
As far as I'm aware, there is no such reel as a SL40??? There is a Grandwave 40 though.
The SL30 would fit on both 12ft and 14ft rods, but the Size 40 Grandwave might be a little heavy for a 12 ft rod, in my personal opinion.
But if you want to buy right first time, then get yourself a Saltist 30H - it's more expensive, but MUCH better quality in all departments - I use one on anything from 11ft Spinning rods right up to a 14ft HMG, it casts a mile... still my best reel ever! Small, compact, great quality and feels goooood! Ask Walt, GL, Tony Coetzer, Weedeater and many other guys who own them... simply a marvellous reel.
Yes you are right, its the Grandwave X40 SHVK, sorry my mistake.
Isn't the Saltist 30H heavier than SL-X30 and even the GW 40? Sort of in the same weight class than the Torium 30?
Also as far as I understand the saltist does not have the disengaging spool shaft, why then would it cast so well? Excuse the ignorance... My aim is to go as light as possible and still have the functionality to catch a decent sized kob, say.
Isn't the Saltist 30H heavier than SL-X30 and even the GW 40? Sort of in the same weight class than the Torium 30?
Also as far as I understand the saltist does not have the disengaging spool shaft, why then would it cast so well? Excuse the ignorance... My aim is to go as light as possible and still have the functionality to catch a decent sized kob, say.
[color=#006600]visasem[/color] wrote:
No the Daiwa's have different sizing to the Shimano's. The Saltist 30/SL30 are the same size as a Trinidad/Torium 14.
Torium 30 same size as a Saltist 50 and SL50.
The Saltist 30's balance and build quality make it a good/brilliant casting reel.
No the Daiwa's have different sizing to the Shimano's. The Saltist 30/SL30 are the same size as a Trinidad/Torium 14.
Torium 30 same size as a Saltist 50 and SL50.
The Saltist 30's balance and build quality make it a good/brilliant casting reel.
The Saltist 30 TH (no weight indicated for the 30H on the Daiwa web site) is rated at 23.3oz where as the SL-X30 is only 17oz. Assuming the 30H weighs the same as the 30TH it means that the Saltist 30H is almost 40% heavier than the SL X30? That puts it (30H) in the same category as the Torium 30 (also 23.3oz) which is too heavy for my liking. Just a thought…
Yes I think you're right Hoamie. I did a search and saw a site showing the 30H as being 510g or 18oz. So that is indeed very light.
Does anyone know what the price range for a Saltiga 30H migth be? Prices for the GW X-30 is around R1500 (!!). I shiver to think what a 30H would cost...
I gather that the 30 sized reel is a more popular option than the GW40, say?
Does anyone know what the price range for a Saltiga 30H migth be? Prices for the GW X-30 is around R1500 (!!). I shiver to think what a 30H would cost...
I gather that the 30 sized reel is a more popular option than the GW40, say?
Def-e-nition
Sealiner
Not many people Fish with Gw 40's. Why , I do Not Know .
The sl's are available in 30 and 50 size , so too the saltist .
umm , funnily enough - saltiga surf is only available also in .... a 30 size . All too often we are smply taught that bigger is better . I made the same mistake , and hence my new found interest in this 40 sized reel . I'd Love a saltist 40, I would give anything for one .
but , I fished against some seriously'Nice guys this weekend , al with Hectic tackle - the dc's were lying around like pebbles on a beach , but I managed just fine with my sl 30 .Edit
sorry but i just have to rub this in the EC boy's faces - I caught More gurnard than anyone else - so THERE !!!!!!! lololol )
The other nice thing was that If I wanted to mess around on the spinner with my 30- no problem . were it a 40 , I also believe like reefman , that the 40 would be just a little too big for te rod . I have even used my 10 ft Loomis (forgot the model ) and the 30 , it was there that I realized how nicely these rods cast , but I bought it purely because I was looking for something lighter than my normal tackle .
I have a major back problem , and truthfully , my BM and the 50 is beginning to Literally kill me on the beach . Even after saturday , I was in major pain - I could BARELY cast off the beach saturday night at St. Francis . My new combo of lighter tackle , lighter rod , lighter reel , has also doubled up my pleasure when catching something with weight . I am , after this post , able to cast as hard , and if Not further , than I could cast with the 50. both have their place in my rigs ,and it's alwas nice to have something like the 50 , or in your case - that beaut of a torium to fall back on when you need it .
You've just gone full circle now - from the sl , to the grandwave , up to the saltist , which is a beauty , then found the price of the grandwave ... and now ... this leaves you wth ?- the sl 30 of course ....
congratulations . I've done this exercise more times than i can remember .
Buck for buck - Ask reefman- it may not be as tough as a saltist-it isn't , but i reckon It's good value for money sir . Now that i can finally cast with it to actually USE it - I am lovng this little reel to no end . Thanks Reef ..
The sl's are available in 30 and 50 size , so too the saltist .
umm , funnily enough - saltiga surf is only available also in .... a 30 size . All too often we are smply taught that bigger is better . I made the same mistake , and hence my new found interest in this 40 sized reel . I'd Love a saltist 40, I would give anything for one .
but , I fished against some seriously'Nice guys this weekend , al with Hectic tackle - the dc's were lying around like pebbles on a beach , but I managed just fine with my sl 30 .Edit
sorry but i just have to rub this in the EC boy's faces - I caught More gurnard than anyone else - so THERE !!!!!!! lololol ) The other nice thing was that If I wanted to mess around on the spinner with my 30- no problem . were it a 40 , I also believe like reefman , that the 40 would be just a little too big for te rod . I have even used my 10 ft Loomis (forgot the model ) and the 30 , it was there that I realized how nicely these rods cast , but I bought it purely because I was looking for something lighter than my normal tackle .
I have a major back problem , and truthfully , my BM and the 50 is beginning to Literally kill me on the beach . Even after saturday , I was in major pain - I could BARELY cast off the beach saturday night at St. Francis . My new combo of lighter tackle , lighter rod , lighter reel , has also doubled up my pleasure when catching something with weight . I am , after this post , able to cast as hard , and if Not further , than I could cast with the 50. both have their place in my rigs ,and it's alwas nice to have something like the 50 , or in your case - that beaut of a torium to fall back on when you need it .
You've just gone full circle now - from the sl , to the grandwave , up to the saltist , which is a beauty , then found the price of the grandwave ... and now ... this leaves you wth ?- the sl 30 of course ....
congratulations . I've done this exercise more times than i can remember .
Buck for buck - Ask reefman- it may not be as tough as a saltist-it isn't , but i reckon It's good value for money sir . Now that i can finally cast with it to actually USE it - I am lovng this little reel to no end . Thanks Reef ..
Yes Def, well put! My thoughts too.
It is like someone said in another post, consider only the 30 series, and then choose according to your budget. Thing is, I could only find one shop in PE that has the SL-X30SHA in stock. And at R1500 I think it is quite steep. Dunno.... How does the old school SL30SHK compare to the new and improved "free spooled" SL-X30? Is it worth the extra ±R500??
It is like someone said in another post, consider only the 30 series, and then choose according to your budget. Thing is, I could only find one shop in PE that has the SL-X30SHA in stock. And at R1500 I think it is quite steep. Dunno.... How does the old school SL30SHK compare to the new and improved "free spooled" SL-X30? Is it worth the extra ±R500??
Def-e-nition
Sealiner
[color=#006600]visasem[/color] wrote:
fishbreath - stick to this set-up - I Think you will be stoked .
Now - as for getting past the breakers - man - I tell you - we are all tryng to do that - some DO - but if it were as easy as going out and buying a 30 and presto- Nah- i doubt it . I sit and study video's on you tube ( my god those boys can CAST - not sure about the fishing bit- but the got the casting bit WAXXED solid ...) and admittedly , wth .040mm or .035mm line on , and a leader , you should get more distance . first night out , and i do mean first , I took a deep breath , and belted out a third cast for the night I could only describe as stratospheric in comparison to my 50 casts- wat was the difference - only that I achieved almost 10 metres More , but with a 5 oz sinker , and not the usual 8 oz I was using, to drown pilchards in reverse..
Cool !! I then tried to throw a crows nest with my last cast by NAILING it with my last throw( subsequently - I have managed to achieve this without even trying ...go Figure ....!) and the bloody sinker just tried to pick a new postal code . I was stoked that night wen i went home .Lesson learned , and i then had to pay over reefmans bloody commission for helping me - I just hope he uses the teazers gold card credits I deposited onto his frequent flyer card there , such a waste if he doesnt ..
Moving on ! I like your idea of the 30 wit the blue marlin - I find the 6-8 tough as $%^k!! New respect for both my 30 , and my BM , which has now found it's place in my arsenal . sorry for almost selling you BM .....
Fish breath - how far can yyou cast with the torium?you shouldt be able to beat the distance by too much wth a 30Sl - that's a damn fine reel you got there dude . some of the guys on the site tweak it somehow and it goes bye-bye when casting man. My dad always used to tell me - are the fish Really all swimming only 5 metres further out ? lol
if you going to pair mr 30Sl with a shorter rod-althoug i may be wrong - I am wondering if you are really going to get past your torium distance ( REEF ?????).
Focussing on what you said first - Like Me - I wanted lighter tackle . and with the 30 - Lighter tackle is what i got . you only feel the shorter retrieve distance wile reeling in in Any case LOLOLOLOLOL .just depends on how you look at things , sometimes !! lol . I Know what you mean , but I'm not too fazed by it . The enjoyment I get from my Loomis/30 combo , which is a lot less rigid or HEAVY when compared to my BM, makes the task of back-breaking surf fishin a pleasure . I kid you Not .
good luck with yur purchase friend , we can only offer advice , you makes de final choice .
My bank balance spoke to me in dreams about the Saltist at night , I finally decided a long time ago to buy the 30 , it's only recently that I see just how nice it is to play with some smaller toys ....
Hello Def,
Thing is I do have a Torium 30, great reel. However I find it a bit on the heavy side for edibles. The rod that I use it on is the BM G3 14" and this combo makes for a back breaking day's of fishing.
I want to shift more to the lighter side and maybe use the SL30 on my other BM (G3 360:2-4, much lighter and more enjoyable to use). I intend targeting edibles (rock and surf). I am therefore not sure if the SL-X30 has the capacity when it comes to (especially) rock fishing (is 0.4 not too ligth to scracth in between rocks?). Some comments maybe?
Lastly I am also after better casting distance. I just cannot seem to get beyond the breakers with the the Torium 30 and the BM 14". Maybe not "balanced", I dont know. All I know it is heavy
I have read the various outstanding threads concerning the SL-X30 and the good casting distances. That got me started with the whole SL30 thing. Please help
fishbreath - stick to this set-up - I Think you will be stoked .
Now - as for getting past the breakers - man - I tell you - we are all tryng to do that - some DO - but if it were as easy as going out and buying a 30 and presto- Nah- i doubt it . I sit and study video's on you tube ( my god those boys can CAST - not sure about the fishing bit- but the got the casting bit WAXXED solid ...) and admittedly , wth .040mm or .035mm line on , and a leader , you should get more distance . first night out , and i do mean first , I took a deep breath , and belted out a third cast for the night I could only describe as stratospheric in comparison to my 50 casts- wat was the difference - only that I achieved almost 10 metres More , but with a 5 oz sinker , and not the usual 8 oz I was using, to drown pilchards in reverse..
Cool !! I then tried to throw a crows nest with my last cast by NAILING it with my last throw( subsequently - I have managed to achieve this without even trying ...go Figure ....!) and the bloody sinker just tried to pick a new postal code . I was stoked that night wen i went home .Lesson learned , and i then had to pay over reefmans bloody commission for helping me - I just hope he uses the teazers gold card credits I deposited onto his frequent flyer card there , such a waste if he doesnt ..
Moving on ! I like your idea of the 30 wit the blue marlin - I find the 6-8 tough as $%^k!! New respect for both my 30 , and my BM , which has now found it's place in my arsenal . sorry for almost selling you BM .....
Fish breath - how far can yyou cast with the torium?you shouldt be able to beat the distance by too much wth a 30Sl - that's a damn fine reel you got there dude . some of the guys on the site tweak it somehow and it goes bye-bye when casting man. My dad always used to tell me - are the fish Really all swimming only 5 metres further out ? lol
if you going to pair mr 30Sl with a shorter rod-althoug i may be wrong - I am wondering if you are really going to get past your torium distance ( REEF ?????).
Focussing on what you said first - Like Me - I wanted lighter tackle . and with the 30 - Lighter tackle is what i got . you only feel the shorter retrieve distance wile reeling in in Any case LOLOLOLOLOL .just depends on how you look at things , sometimes !! lol . I Know what you mean , but I'm not too fazed by it . The enjoyment I get from my Loomis/30 combo , which is a lot less rigid or HEAVY when compared to my BM, makes the task of back-breaking surf fishin a pleasure . I kid you Not .
good luck with yur purchase friend , we can only offer advice , you makes de final choice .
My bank balance spoke to me in dreams about the Saltist at night , I finally decided a long time ago to buy the 30 , it's only recently that I see just how nice it is to play with some smaller toys ....