casting big reels.... how the heck do you guys do this???

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gulley hunter

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Lol, well thanks to everyone for all the reply's... Alota good info here,I don't have time to practice much before the trip so I'm going to take the 600h with seeing as I can atleast cast that,even if I do look like a tool on the rocks and I'll keep practicing with a torium50.
 
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Trophy

Sealiner
Hiya Gulley Hunter,

I also had a hard time learning to cast my first Shimano 50. I tried all sorts of sinker weights and even tried to change my casting action for the reel.

One snapped rod, plenty crows nests and countless roasted fingers I have found balance! LoL

I simply switched the length of my rod from a 400 to a 350 and went from a 9oz to a 10oz.

I fish a stiff 3 pcs spiggot joined Purglas /6 350 and cast a typical South African cast straight over my shoulder, but with a lob action.

Put my 50 on a 400 lighter rod when I load the rod more and its over wind shot for shot. Kopstamp uses the same rod and casts a 8 or 9oz.

Its all about getting the combination between your action, rod action, reel, line and sinker oz right...balance!

You are more than welcome to pop around and have a feel and cast with my rods?
 
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Mango

Sealiner
Honestly if you are getting spooled on a 30 I realy do not think a 50 will help

I have a finnor 30 tor 30 and Tyrenos leverdrag (Bigger than a 50).

Know your equipment and your knots and you will be fine 99.9 percent of the time
 
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Noweeds

Sealiner
Mango wrote:
Honestly if you are getting spooled on a 30 I realy do not think a 50 will help

I have a finnor 30 tor 30 and Tyrenos leverdrag (Bigger than a 50).

Know your equipment and your knots and you will be fine 99.9 percent of the time
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I totally disagree.....I have landed MANY MANY fish on my 50 that would have spooled me on a 30!

I have also landed lots of really big fish on my 30. But I like having line in the bank......the way the guys talk here on Sealine you would think there is a special prize for locking your drag, pulling your arms off and then telling stories of how you lost the fish. I believe in a medium drag (sometimes almost no drag - let the fish take the line - then kite left or right and it must now drag all that line through the water......) this gives you a nice placid fish when it gets close - and a picture you can show your mates!!
 
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Mango

Sealiner
NoWeeds following your approach yes line capacity is a must.

but my statment stands 99 out of a 100 sharks hooked in normal conditions a 30 size would be adequate.

I have lost some dig fish on 30 size reels but even the terynos would not have stopped them.
 
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Craig Van der Poll

Sealiner
Eish....true story Weeds.....when will guys learn that more drag is never the answer!!!! Makes for lekka "one that got away" stories but I prefer pictures of fish with lekka suntans!!
 
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Mango

Sealiner
Craig / Weeds not disagreeing on line capacity and drag more a thing of a reel that can be casted properly I still batle with the Tyrenos and do not even clear 80 mt with trin/tor 50. My hands are small and I m not the strongets oke , so i will stick to my 30 with braid and 180 mt of topshot and still get most fish.

Craig in another post you mentioned I think a speedmaster that you lock down and hold on so what is it that you prefer
 
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M@rius

Senior Member
I think Craig was speaking about fishing on the Strand reefs with a locked spool, that's something completely different to "ordinary" fishing
 
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Craig Van der Poll

Sealiner
Mango wrote:
Craig / Weeds not disagreeing on line capacity and drag more a thing of a reel that can be casted properly I still batle with the Tyrenos and do not even clear 80 mt with trin/tor 50. My hands are small and I m not the strongets oke , so i will stick to my 30 with braid and 180 mt of topshot and still get most fish.

Craig in another post you mentioned I think a speedmaster that you lock down and hold on so what is it that you prefer
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Two different styles and areas. On the reefs it is fishing for spotties at your feet and in the reef channels which can be as narrow as 2 metres. No giving line there! Holding them is the only way really. Admittedly some guys have given big fish, duckbills and pylies, string in the reef system to allow them to swim out into the open sea then fight them back with limited success.

Big reels and big bronzies and their brethren in the surf is a completely other story. Trying to hold back a 150kg shark that is hell bent on stripping you is not the way to go.
 
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Craig Van der Poll

Sealiner
The main reason for those big reels is line capacity and not drag IMO. You give the fish string so he can tire himself out. Put a pile of drag on it and it will cut/bite/break you off very easily and not tire as quickly as it would dragging 400m of line in a big ark through the water.

Also consider this....if somebody were to grab you by the throat and start choking you you would fight with every ounce of energy to break that hold. But if you put a tight'ish noose around your neck and let it tighten over an hour or two then you won't even notice that you are being worn out until it is too late.....
 
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Psy

Sealiner
Noweeds wrote:
Mango wrote:
Honestly if you are getting spooled on a 30 I realy do not think a 50 will help

I have a finnor 30 tor 30 and Tyrenos leverdrag (Bigger than a 50).

Know your equipment and your knots and you will be fine 99.9 percent of the time
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I totally disagree.....I have landed MANY MANY fish on my 50 that would have spooled me on a 30!

I have also landed lots of really big fish on my 30. But I like having line in the bank......the way the guys talk here on Sealine you would think there is a special prize for locking your drag, pulling your arms off and then telling stories of how you lost the fish. I believe in a medium drag (sometimes almost no drag - let the fish take the line - then kite left or right and it must now drag all that line through the water......) this gives you a nice placid fish when it gets close - and a picture you can show your mates!!
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Simen

Sealiner
Question: When you say you cannot hold the big reel I take the line starts slipping under your thumb during the cast?

 
 
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Enigma

Moderator
Mango problem is that 90% of the sharks in your area can be landed on a 20

Fishing off the Transkei wjhere huge ocean currents sweep in close and get there when there is a smash on and you are going to respool a number of times in a Day.

In November we saw it when everyone fishing a 30 respooled at least 2 times in the week and only 1 x 50 was emptied.

Mechanichaly the 50's are more durable and are meant for big fast sharks.

It has more than enough drag and more than enough capacity. You'll never use all the drag but then again you don't drive a BMW at 250km/h you drive it at 120km/h and it last many years more than a Cherry QQ driving at 120km/h every day (same principle applies)
 
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pringle

Sealiner
I don't reckon I have the biggest hands and fish my Tor 50 spooled full but i cast with a soft rubber glove, so even if you can only get your finger tip on the spool you have grip and control, then can cast a 9/10oz or lekka sic=zed bait and an 8oz to get the distance. Thats just my way and it has worked with .80 mainline and 2mm leaders down to .60 with 1.3mm leaders.

I have a smooth easy action and like Boeps mentioned and thats what works for me. But give the glove a go and see if that helps.
 
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Trophy

Sealiner
TN/TOR 50 all the way for big fish chaps. These two fights would have gone south if hooked on a 30 sized reel?

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Enigma

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CrackerJ.acks's 207kg Bronzie had him over 1100m on his Trini 50 on 7 occasions off St Francis.........
 

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