Bighead carp (Hypophthalmichthys nobilis) [b][/b]
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You missed the Buffalo and Siamese Carp and the Giant Barb which is the worlds largest Cypranid and grows to over 3m in length and weighs in at over 300kg (Mekon river system in China)
The only Carp in your list above in our SA waters are the Grass Carp, and the Cyprinidae, ie the Carpio (Mirror, Common, Koi) The leather, Common and Mirror carp are the same fish and interbreed with the common carp gene strain being dominant. The scale patterns are the only variation in the anatomy of the fish.
The Bighead Asian Carp is not found in South Africa, there is however a viable population of Hypophthalmichthys molitrix (silver carp), the Chinese Silver Carp in the Olifants river from below the Loskop dam wall all the way to the indian ocean.
Tinca-Tinca or the Tench is found in the Breede river and some private resevoirs in the Western Cape.
The Mudfish is of the Labeo species and we have the Orange River, Purple, Red Nose, Red-Scaled and Leaden mudfish, Clanwilliam Sawfin, Tugela Mudfish in our river systems. These are also a sub species of Cyprinadae and are known as a whole in the larger group as African Carp,
American Buffalo Carp
The only Carp in your list above in our SA waters are the Grass Carp, and the Cyprinidae, ie the Carpio (Mirror, Common, Koi) The leather, Common and Mirror carp are the same fish and interbreed with the common carp gene strain being dominant. The scale patterns are the only variation in the anatomy of the fish.
The Bighead Asian Carp is not found in South Africa, there is however a viable population of Hypophthalmichthys molitrix (silver carp), the Chinese Silver Carp in the Olifants river from below the Loskop dam wall all the way to the indian ocean.
Tinca-Tinca or the Tench is found in the Breede river and some private resevoirs in the Western Cape.
The Mudfish is of the Labeo species and we have the Orange River, Purple, Red Nose, Red-Scaled and Leaden mudfish, Clanwilliam Sawfin, Tugela Mudfish in our river systems. These are also a sub species of Cyprinadae and are known as a whole in the larger group as African Carp,
American Buffalo Carp
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But now that we have established that there are hundred s and hundreds of CArp fish (Technically) I think we should rather just look at the Wikipedia explanation:
"Some consider all cyprinid fishes carp, and the family Cyprinidae itself is often known as the carp family. In colloquial use, however, carp usually refers only to several larger cyprinid species such as Cyprinus carpio (common carp), Carassius carassius (Crucian carp), Ctenopharyngodon idella (grass carp), Hypophthalmichthys molitrix (silver carp), and Hypophthalmichthys nobilis (bighead carp). Carp have long been an important food fish to humans, as well as popular ornamental fishes such as the various goldfish breeds and the domesticated common carp variety known as koi . As a result, carp have been introduced to various locations, though with mixed results. Several species of carp are listed as invasive species by the Dept of Environmental Affairs and worldwide large sums of money are spent on carp control."
"Some consider all cyprinid fishes carp, and the family Cyprinidae itself is often known as the carp family. In colloquial use, however, carp usually refers only to several larger cyprinid species such as Cyprinus carpio (common carp), Carassius carassius (Crucian carp), Ctenopharyngodon idella (grass carp), Hypophthalmichthys molitrix (silver carp), and Hypophthalmichthys nobilis (bighead carp). Carp have long been an important food fish to humans, as well as popular ornamental fishes such as the various goldfish breeds and the domesticated common carp variety known as koi . As a result, carp have been introduced to various locations, though with mixed results. Several species of carp are listed as invasive species by the Dept of Environmental Affairs and worldwide large sums of money are spent on carp control."
The silver and big head carp differ essentially in that they filter the water for micro organisms and their gills have evolved to form interlocking balleen plates like those of a whale.
They also do not have any bars and no pharangeal molars for crushing food.
I don't make the distinction but this is what the international community refers to as carp and which are targeted in FIPS carp competitions.
They also do not have any bars and no pharangeal molars for crushing food.
I don't make the distinction but this is what the international community refers to as carp and which are targeted in FIPS carp competitions.
Marthin
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Enigma... do we get a pure leather carp in SA waters?
I caught 3 exactly 5kg carp in three casts at bloemhof one morning.
1 Fullscale,
1 Mirror
and then the one i'm certain didnt have a single scale on it's body. I had my first epileptic fit that day and it's 14 years ago, so i'm not 100% certain.
I caught 3 exactly 5kg carp in three casts at bloemhof one morning.
1 Fullscale,
1 Mirror
and then the one i'm certain didnt have a single scale on it's body. I had my first epileptic fit that day and it's 14 years ago, so i'm not 100% certain.
Marthin
Sealiner
The orange koi carp weighs 30lb - the same as an average three-year-old girl - and is thought to be one of the largest of its kind ever captured. It took Raphael Biagini ten minutes to reel the creature out of a lake in the south of France - moments after fellow anglers told him they had spent six years trying to snare the legendary giant goldfish.
Giant Barb which is the worlds largest Cypranid and grows to over 3m in length and weighs in at over 300kg (Mekon river system in China)
And as usual they are under threat as they are a very good eating fish and are heavily targetted by commercial fishermen on the Mekong river system
And as usual they are under threat as they are a very good eating fish and are heavily targetted by commercial fishermen on the Mekong river system
ccording to wikipedia the giant barb and siamese giant carp is one and the same fish...
The giant barb or Siamese giant carp, Catlocarpio siamensis (Thai: à¸à¸£à¸°à¹‚ห้ or à¸à¸°à¸¡à¸±à¸™), is the largest species of carp in the world. These migratory fish are found only in the Mae Klong, Mekong and Chao Phraya river basins. This fish is a desirable food fish, which may have caused a serious decline in its numbers.[1]
The giant barb or Siamese giant carp, Catlocarpio siamensis (Thai: à¸à¸£à¸°à¹‚ห้ or à¸à¸°à¸¡à¸±à¸™), is the largest species of carp in the world. These migratory fish are found only in the Mae Klong, Mekong and Chao Phraya river basins. This fish is a desirable food fish, which may have caused a serious decline in its numbers.[1]
Saw 'n program on NatGeoWild last night about the Bighead Carp in the US,and how they have literally taken over whole ecosystems.The worry is that they might get into the big 5 lakes between the US and Canada,and "destroy" them.
Was amasing to see them just go mad and jump all over the place as the boat cruises on the river.
Was amasing to see them just go mad and jump all over the place as the boat cruises on the river.