Attitude towards young fisherman

[bassist11]

Hi all,

I thought that i should post this because it is something i feel very strongly about

 

A couple of weeks back me and a friend of mine decided to go to one of our favourite fishing spots for a days bass fishing and we decided to take his little brother of 9 years with to try out some bass fishing.....after about 20 minutes of action we decided to head to my favourite spot when we got there we saw it was occupied by a carp fisherman so we politely asked if we could wade a few meters away from his lines he then said yes but threatend to bli*k*em us if we touched his lines so we cautiosly carried on fishing, on his first cast the little one caught his first bass and he was very excited when he casted again in all the excitement he by accident casted over the carp guys lines without realising he then said he feels something at the end of the line so i instructed him to strike the carp alarm then went off and the carp fisherman came sprinting with his friends when they realised the boy had cast over his lines he went off using the f words and many others at the top his lungs he was really going off at the young kid when i tried to defend the poor boy he threatend to hit me, we then left the spot (as we were walking away they all tuned  us and the young boy). The poor 9 year old felt too discouraged to fish for the rest of the day  he just sat drowning his sorrows in a packet of lays.

 

This is not the first time ive witnessed something like this happening and im definitly not accusing carp anglers, I just think the angling world can be a very big and intimidating place for young fishermen and the last thing we should be doing is treating them like this because they look up to th older guys, I mean these kids can be the record holders of tommorow. I really think this can be worked on in the angling world.

Thank you for your time,

Bassist11

 

[Naruto]

I totally agree! Respect is a two way street and the youth is our future. Take the little guy on an outing and see the fire rekindled as he hooks his next fish.

 

[martinb77]

Hi, that is shocking, carry on showing the young fellow how to fish. guys was very patient with me in the beginning, they still are

 

[bassist11]

Thanks Naruto im happy you agree im taking him to boskop next weekend to make it up to him shame i felt really bad

 

[woerman]

Sorry to hear that man - its not right.

Just remember that you get people like that in all walks of life and you should not pay much attention to them because that's what they want.

I hope your friend's brother is not discouraged by this.

 

[tauruck]

Keep the lighty away from the Pap Gooiers.

Some okes get nasty and don't think twice about the impact screaming and shouting will have on a youngster.

I think the guy's an idiot but you kinda had it coming.

A 9 year old like you described is not experienced and his casting was bound to get you guys into trouble.

It was inevitable, Murphy's Law. It's like flying a kite in an open field with one tree.

Well you get my drift.

Tell the kid that the oom was crazy and it won't happen again.

He'll bounce back for sure.

 

[LeonK]

I do not want to sound like and idiot but I agree with tauruck.

I dont think any angler would like it if anybody comes and wade around his lines. Let alone a 9 year old.

But I dont agree with the guys action.

 

[novice fisher]

That is really sad

This is a typical case of bad sportsmanship, we all go out there to have a good time when the opportunity arises once or twice a year then you get this prick that spoils your whole day and that is just wrong.

Just shows that there is no more love in this world among people.

I really hope the young one enjoys his next trip, I feel your pain i also have a brother of ten and i must commend you for handling the situation well because i don’t know if i would have been able to do that.

I must also add it can be irritating if young ones fiddle around your fishing spot, and with the rods but then if you can be a big boy to scream and shout then you can also be a big boy to ask the parent or older person to take the young ones away politely.

We have enough to worry about at our fishing spots like theft and so on lets make it easy for one another.   

:fishn 

 

[Roliocat]

Yes guys, I have to agree with the likes of Novice, the anglers reaction was not what anybody would want but to have a youngster busy with his apprenticeship so close to an apparently very serious angler is like scratching a lions backside with a very short stick, you're looking for trouble.

 

[WalkersKiller]

That is terrible there is no need for people to act that way, especially if a 9 year old is involved!

 

[100% African]

I have to say I think that oue was a total @$$. I've experienced something similar with my cousins playing on my kayak and drifting near where a carp angler was set up... He also swore at them. Unfortunately I wasn't there to witness the whole thing or I would have sorted it out...

I can imagine that its annoying when you fishing and someone interfers with your setup etc but handle the situation like a civilised human. This is not an attack on carp anglers, its just that they usually the ones with a fixed spot, as opposed to a bass angler who moves around.

I also have been in a similar situation on the pier at north beach. It was early in the morning and there were 3 anglers on the pier, myself, my buddy and this regular guy from the pier. the wind was howling and the sea was rough, and my mates line got tangled with the other guys... We were at the spot first and the other guy came there after us. He started swearing my friend untill i told him to calm down and shut up because this is not his pier or his ocean. after he saw that we not push overs and wont take his kak, his attitude changed and he became friendly with us...

I think guys need to understand that these are public places and they do not belong to one angler. If you don't like fishing with others, fish on monday mornings. Otherwise get over it and understand that these things happen...

 

[100% African]

And about the kid, please take him fishing again and show him that not everyone in the sport is a toss.

 

[HennieS]

My biggest fishing buddy is my grandson who is 5 years old turining 6 in April. I had a similiar insident when me and him went bass fishing at a dam that is fairly remote and the closest town was 60km away.

We arrived very early in the morning, was my first time at this venue, reported to Nature Conservation offices and was told we can use their slipway. Getting down to the slipway there was people sitting fishing on the slipway. Seeing that it was very early and trying to be decent, I found a steep bank and launched the boat from the bank. I also immediately realised that I will not be able to take the boat out at the same bank and will have to use the slipway.

We carried on fishing and had a wonderful day on the water, my grandson bagging 5 bass for the day. We then decided to take out the boat and needless to say I had to go and request that these people make space for me to take out my boat. They at first refused point blank, I then called the guy at Nature Conservation and he came and instructed them to move. Clearly these guy's, 4 of them, had the "voggies" flowing and verbal abuse started straight away. After they realised they will not get a reaction, they started slinging mud at my boat. Unfortunetly for the one individual he missed my boat and hit my grandson with the mud ball, it became very ugly and the individual ended up in hospital and I ended up in court! Nothing happened though as I was found innocent and re-acted in self defence.

The impact this incident had on my grandson was huge, he is still scared when the boat comes close to an area where people are fishing and his first re-action is to shout at them and ask them if it is ok for us to come closer. I always prayed that he never see me lose my temper but I failed him and myself. We both still LOVE fishing and spend as much time on the water as we can.

Be kind to kids they innocent, they love fishing as much as the next person and realy all they want to do is catch a fish. The youngster is a very good bass angler and is seriously challenging me on the boat everytime we go out below is a picture of him and a bass he caught.

  

 

[The Boatman]

HennieS ::respekt:

It is never nice for kids to see their loved ones involved in altercations with other people but unfortunately sometimes it is the only language these idiots understand.

I have small kids of my one and I can promise you I will loose it if some idiot have to injure or hurt them oneday::cavmn

 

[papgooier776]

i cant agree more kids are the future of angling and because my daugters are still very young i tend to shy away from taking them angling over wekends during the week is fine ,because some anglers has mouths on them that would make a pirate blush,
that said i do feel that its a grown ups responsibility to teach the young ones obout respect aswell and to make sure that before you let him loose wading around other anglers he knows how to cast.
me i am very patient when next to the water and has had many young anglers cast over my lines helping them untangle the lines  boosts their confidents but that said you will tolerate only so much.
i believe using foul language just makes matters worse but a firm talking to usally seem to work and makes the young ones pay more attention.

 

[Pan]

I will probably get blixemed for saying this:
What were you doing in another anglers swim in the first place?
I will never even think about doing that. Even with his permission.
I would not like someone else in my swim, thats for sure...

 

[novice fisher]

I tend to agree with Pan a bit (With out getting Blik!#$%^ don't like bleeding)

But i must say even if you teach your kids not to fiddle or play around at other peoples spot's and so on - they still do dumb things some times.

It then still is as a adult just ethical to politely go to the parents or older person and say hey listen this is disturbing and so on please make a plan with your kid/s.

It's a much better way then just swearing and screaming.

Fishing is a delicate sport and allot of attention and detail and patients go into it and i'm sure no one would like his spot disturbed, but on the other hand that means nothing to a child they just wanna catch the fish no matter what, they don't think about it in the same way we do.

There is allot of things to consider on this topic but at the end of the day it all comes down to humanity and respect for one another and manners.

 

[Pan]

I don't approve of the guy swearing at the kid. I will swear at the father. The kid will believe his father is right, meanwhile he is wrong. The father is the kid's hero, not so ?
I've brought up 4 of them and when they were young, i was allways right.
(Grown up now, i am allways wrong. LOL)

 

[bassist11]

Pan wrote:

I will probably get blixemed for saying this:
What were you doing in another anglers swim in the first place?
I will never even think about doing that. Even with his permission.
I would not like someone else in my swim, thats for sure...

You seem to have misunderstood we were not remotely close to his lines (about 20 meters away.
My little friend just forgot about the lines and casted completetly sideways.
We also did our best not to disrupt him.


Nothing justifies what the carp angler did.

 

[Loams]

Accidents happen, and wether through negligence or not, it was wrong to swear at the child. Full stop.

Unfortunately a lot of carp fishermen believe that wherever they plonk their asses down belongs to them. Unfortunately sir, it does not.

Having said that, us fellow fishermen should have consideration for stationary anglers and try not to disturb their spot.

Respect is a two way street