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Afternoon Guys. I stopped specimen but I said I
- Thread starter Lunker
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Not a problem. After the shop Im hitting Brookewood with wife, she wants to go do trout and Im gonna go and try see if I can burn another reel out. Sunday I was there and we managed quite a few trout and I spotted some big carp swimming around close to the surface and didnt have any flies for it so tomorrow I will be prepared. Lets hope that 15kg monster is still hanging around, should be a good fight on a 4wt.
Going to do a bit of stalking in the bigger dam there as well, a 15kg carp came out there by one of the guys fishing specimen and bigger sizes have been seen so heres hoping.
Report back tomorrow
Going to do a bit of stalking in the bigger dam there as well, a 15kg carp came out there by one of the guys fishing specimen and bigger sizes have been seen so heres hoping.
Report back tomorrow
Thanks man.
Just been to go see for my rods, found a 13ft IM10 Graphite 2.5lb TC very slim rod with long cork handle but when I asked the guys about a 20ft rod that has eyes I got the most blank look from them. lol. You gonna struggle finding that. The longest you will get is a 14ft.
As matter of interest, are you currently using a pole with the elastic like pole fishing?
Just been to go see for my rods, found a 13ft IM10 Graphite 2.5lb TC very slim rod with long cork handle but when I asked the guys about a 20ft rod that has eyes I got the most blank look from them. lol. You gonna struggle finding that. The longest you will get is a 14ft.
As matter of interest, are you currently using a pole with the elastic like pole fishing?
Kingfisher-guy
Senior Member
Why do I need such long rods? Wont a 7ft rod be sufficient?
7ft is way to short for the following reasons.
10ft+ is the best and most recomended way to go, I just bought a 13ft IM10 2lbTC Carbon 2 piece rod. It is half the weight of a specimen rod but has all the back bone needed.
- The float is light and you cant cats it far with a short if you need to get it out a bit further.[/*]
- You are going to run into problems when with striking because a small rods reaction time is much slower. A bigger rod gives you a quicker hook set.[/*]
- The most important factor of all is that you are fighting a carp not a bass or kurper. Most of the carp you will catch are small 1kg+ but there is always that chance that you hook into a 8kg+ and you will have no control, the carp will take you straight into snags and you will never get him out.
10ft+ is the best and most recomended way to go, I just bought a 13ft IM10 2lbTC Carbon 2 piece rod. It is half the weight of a specimen rod but has all the back bone needed.
Thanks Ryan.
Yesterday was a cracker of a session.
10 trout 2 hours, smallest 500g biggest 1.2kg. 9 caught were on my ugraded version of a white fritz. Been tying and testing the fly for the 2 winters. Finally developed the fly into a top notch trout catcher. By the way this same fly is my carp catcher as well.
The 10th one was on a self tied bright yellow egg pattern fished in tandum with a white death.
Ryan it was like saltwater fishing, I cast out the fly any where on the dam and the minute it hits the water I retrieve at a hell of pace and the trout chased it down like king fish, sometimes they hit the fly so hard that they nock the thing right out the water. Very exiting stuff. At one point even the spawning trout were going for it. The wife got into the action as well and landed 6 and lost a mother of a trout, full spawning colours I would estimate at about 2.5kg. For brookewood that is big!
The one time I casted out I put my rod down to light a smoke and the fly sank to the bottom and a carp must of taken it because there was no way of turning it on my 5wt, it ran the hell out of my reel. Eventually after about 7 minute fight the line went slack. My heart sank, I was miff for a while and the misses told me to build a bridge and get over it! Dont you just love women boet.
Have you ever thought of taking a pole and getting eyes put on it? I have asked everywhere about a rod longer then 14ft and everyone keeps telling me about poles fishing.
Yesterday was a cracker of a session.
10 trout 2 hours, smallest 500g biggest 1.2kg. 9 caught were on my ugraded version of a white fritz. Been tying and testing the fly for the 2 winters. Finally developed the fly into a top notch trout catcher. By the way this same fly is my carp catcher as well.
The 10th one was on a self tied bright yellow egg pattern fished in tandum with a white death.
Ryan it was like saltwater fishing, I cast out the fly any where on the dam and the minute it hits the water I retrieve at a hell of pace and the trout chased it down like king fish, sometimes they hit the fly so hard that they nock the thing right out the water. Very exiting stuff. At one point even the spawning trout were going for it. The wife got into the action as well and landed 6 and lost a mother of a trout, full spawning colours I would estimate at about 2.5kg. For brookewood that is big!
The one time I casted out I put my rod down to light a smoke and the fly sank to the bottom and a carp must of taken it because there was no way of turning it on my 5wt, it ran the hell out of my reel. Eventually after about 7 minute fight the line went slack. My heart sank, I was miff for a while and the misses told me to build a bridge and get over it! Dont you just love women boet.
Have you ever thought of taking a pole and getting eyes put on it? I have asked everywhere about a rod longer then 14ft and everyone keeps telling me about poles fishing.
The only problem with fishing these local places is that they charge a fortune. Brookwood is currently R50 to get in and R65 a kg and every trout caught you have to take out. They obviously mist the section about catch and release and the reason for that is they say the climate does not allow for catch and release!!!!! Ok!
There is another place on the other side of pretoria called the rocks, they have trout dams and it is catch and release, never fished there but how bad can it be.
How does the end of the month sound? The trout should still be spawning or getting to the end of it so they should be quite hungry.
Have you fished brookwood before?
There is another place on the other side of pretoria called the rocks, they have trout dams and it is catch and release, never fished there but how bad can it be.
How does the end of the month sound? The trout should still be spawning or getting to the end of it so they should be quite hungry.
Have you fished brookwood before?
Kingfisher-guy
Senior Member
Hey Lunker, is your float suppose to stay at the same spot or will the wind or current make it drift away?
KG. The wind current wont move your float if it set correctly. Study all the diagrams i posted earlier in this thread. What you basically need to do is use quite a heavy split shot or a small ball weight that pulls your float under the water and all you then need to do is set your float until it is totally lying flat on top of the water. Once you get to that point all you then do is reel your line in slowly until your float stands up strainght. Once it is standing up straight turn your spool manually until you float pulls under the water again but make sure you have a small piece of the tip of the float sticking out the water. Your rod tip must be very close to the water to avoid wind blowing your line and pulling the float totally under. The line from your float to rod must be straight, not tight, straight. When a carp as much as just touches the hook bait it will eith go under or will lift out the water. If it does not fall on its side then the carp has not taken the bait correctly so you must wait. One thing will happen there after, the float will either go under the water and your line will pull tight and you have a carp on the other end so always remember to have your spool loose. The other thing that will happen is the float will fall on its side and at that stage you strike and bang you are on.
I hope this explains it a bit better.
I hope this explains it a bit better.
100% African
Senior Member
Hey Lunker
Great Post... This method seems very interesting and i'm definately going to try it... Been interested in carching a carp for a while but as you say, it can be a bit confusing and there's a lot of tackle required. Couple of questions...
1. Can you please explain this: "I just bought a 13ft IM10 2lbTC Carbon 2 piece rod" What is 2lb TC? Or rether what is TC?
2. I saw a berkley cherrywood, 10ft, 1/4oz - 3/4oz cast wt. Is this rod fine?
3. can this method be done from a kayak or float tube?
4. Often when fishing for Bass I come across large areas of water where there are about 10 or more spots where bubbles are coming to the surface in an area about 10m x 10m. Is this a sign of carp feeding?
Thanks for the info.
Great Post... This method seems very interesting and i'm definately going to try it... Been interested in carching a carp for a while but as you say, it can be a bit confusing and there's a lot of tackle required. Couple of questions...
1. Can you please explain this: "I just bought a 13ft IM10 2lbTC Carbon 2 piece rod" What is 2lb TC? Or rether what is TC?
2. I saw a berkley cherrywood, 10ft, 1/4oz - 3/4oz cast wt. Is this rod fine?
3. can this method be done from a kayak or float tube?
4. Often when fishing for Bass I come across large areas of water where there are about 10 or more spots where bubbles are coming to the surface in an area about 10m x 10m. Is this a sign of carp feeding?
Thanks for the info.
100% African
Senior Member
Ok... I see TC is test curve, but what exactly does that mean? Where is that rating on a rod?
100%. Thanks man.
Its an amazing method for catching carp as a matter of fact float fishing can be used to catch any species of fish that south africa can offer.
Im going to do a post on equipment soon and it will be able to answer alot of questions.
To answer your answer your question now on the float tube or kayak, the lift method cannot be done from a moving craft. you can target fish like Kurper, yellows, bass and any other species that does not feed off the bottom. you use a similar method. I will do a full description on this method soon as well, it is deadly in summer.
Bubbles on the surface are a sure sign of carp feeding but can also be mistaken for crabs and barbel. If there is hundreds of small bubbles then it is definately carp and that would be the best area to target. If you get to the water and there is no feeding close to the bank then you will need to feed 3 areas in casting distance. The average casting distance one can do with a float is about 10m so try and keep it in that area.
If carp are feeding close by do not feed as this will chase the carp out the swim and may only return 3 hours later. All you do is make sure your float is set up to that depth and put your hook bait on and place the float just outside where the carp are feeding and wait for your float to lift. If the bubbles stop wait about another 10 minutes just to make sure they are gone and take about 3 handfulls of corn pellets and throw it around your float and that should draw them back in. The biggest advantage of using a float is that when you are presenting some freebies you can see exactly where your hook bait is.
Its an amazing method for catching carp as a matter of fact float fishing can be used to catch any species of fish that south africa can offer.
Im going to do a post on equipment soon and it will be able to answer alot of questions.
To answer your answer your question now on the float tube or kayak, the lift method cannot be done from a moving craft. you can target fish like Kurper, yellows, bass and any other species that does not feed off the bottom. you use a similar method. I will do a full description on this method soon as well, it is deadly in summer.
Bubbles on the surface are a sure sign of carp feeding but can also be mistaken for crabs and barbel. If there is hundreds of small bubbles then it is definately carp and that would be the best area to target. If you get to the water and there is no feeding close to the bank then you will need to feed 3 areas in casting distance. The average casting distance one can do with a float is about 10m so try and keep it in that area.
If carp are feeding close by do not feed as this will chase the carp out the swim and may only return 3 hours later. All you do is make sure your float is set up to that depth and put your hook bait on and place the float just outside where the carp are feeding and wait for your float to lift. If the bubbles stop wait about another 10 minutes just to make sure they are gone and take about 3 handfulls of corn pellets and throw it around your float and that should draw them back in. The biggest advantage of using a float is that when you are presenting some freebies you can see exactly where your hook bait is.
100% African
Senior Member
Thanks for the info. I look forward to reading more about match fishing and maybe trying it pretty soon.