Afternoon Guys. I stopped specimen but I said I
- Thread starter Lunker
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Bellow is a list of websites that give you every little bit of information that will take me days to try and explain.
http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/Carp-Fishing-Articles/stalk_carp.html
http://www.fishingmagic.com/news/article/mps/uan/5394
http://www.discoverfishing.co.uk/guides/float_fishing.htm
http://www.carp.net/bobber.htm
http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/Coarse-Fishing-Articles/stick_float_secrets.html
The baits for float fishing are endless but no matter where you go do not leave your loaf of white bread at home. Its the deal breaker!
http://www.worldseafishing.com/blogsdiaries/jimodonnell/creditcrunchanglingcarp.html
http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/Carp-Fishing-Articles/stalk_carp.html
http://www.fishingmagic.com/news/article/mps/uan/5394
http://www.discoverfishing.co.uk/guides/float_fishing.htm
http://www.carp.net/bobber.htm
http://www.anglersnet.co.uk/Coarse-Fishing-Articles/stick_float_secrets.html
The baits for float fishing are endless but no matter where you go do not leave your loaf of white bread at home. Its the deal breaker!
http://www.worldseafishing.com/blogsdiaries/jimodonnell/creditcrunchanglingcarp.html
Just some interesting reading and videos on how to set things up.
http://www.articlesbase.com/sports-and-fitness-articles/float-fishing-for-carp-225847.html
Ryan, what length rod do you use. You mentioned a long rod but what size. I currently have the ande 8ft drop shot and daiwa 2lb tc 10ft that I am using for stalking.
http://www.articlesbase.com/sports-and-fitness-articles/float-fishing-for-carp-225847.html
Ryan, what length rod do you use. You mentioned a long rod but what size. I currently have the ande 8ft drop shot and daiwa 2lb tc 10ft that I am using for stalking.
Thanks amn.
It must be awesome fight with a rod that length. Im trying to find a 14ft 4 piece 2lb tc graphite rod to do my stalking with because firstly they casts a light float much further then my current rods and what you said now makes so much sense that you want to get the fish and not wait for the fish to come to you and most of my match fishing is done 5m from the side.
I would like to learn more from you on the artlure for carp , Im big into my drop shot and fly fishing and artlure is awesome. Have you ever fished footloose trout farm? I fish float there and use to do specimen and in some of the dams I have seen monsters swimming around. The one dam holds big barbel and the smaller dams have got carp 9kg+. The bass fisherman hook into the barbel all the time on soft plastics. That method of yours with the Loodkopie will work so well on the carp because they are drawn in by bright colours because they are fished for with bread and sweetcorn all the time. Attached is one of the many cats I pulled out there on boilies.
It must be awesome fight with a rod that length. Im trying to find a 14ft 4 piece 2lb tc graphite rod to do my stalking with because firstly they casts a light float much further then my current rods and what you said now makes so much sense that you want to get the fish and not wait for the fish to come to you and most of my match fishing is done 5m from the side.
I would like to learn more from you on the artlure for carp , Im big into my drop shot and fly fishing and artlure is awesome. Have you ever fished footloose trout farm? I fish float there and use to do specimen and in some of the dams I have seen monsters swimming around. The one dam holds big barbel and the smaller dams have got carp 9kg+. The bass fisherman hook into the barbel all the time on soft plastics. That method of yours with the Loodkopie will work so well on the carp because they are drawn in by bright colours because they are fished for with bread and sweetcorn all the time. Attached is one of the many cats I pulled out there on boilies.
Kingfisher-guy
Senior Member
Hey lunker, when float fishing, do you sit with your rod until they bite or do you cast in and leave it for a while? And how far away do you make your feeding spot?
KG. The whole concept behind float fishing for carp is to trick the carp in taking your bait. Like i said it is the same as static fishing but you are using a float as your indication when the carp takes your bait and you dont feed as much. Float fishing is a day session method and can put more carp on the bank then what you would doing static fishing over a period of 48 hours. Its been proven many times.
When reaching the water you need to try and find structure close to the bank and see if there is any movement or carp feeding in those areas. From that point before you set up your equipment you need to feed three spots in and around that structure but a few meters apart, the reason behind this is that fishing with a float you can just whip out the float at anytime and place it on one of your other feeding spots where you can see carp feeding and with a float been so lite it will not chase the fish out your swim.
To answer your question about just leaving your rods, definitely not. You need to watch that float because once it lifts or disapears you need to strike immediately or else you may as well just fish static with out the float and wait till the carp runs.
Many fisherman have their exitement thing at the waters side, some like the sound of a centre pin reel running, some like the sound of their alarms, me I love the sitting there watching my float waiting for the slightest lift knowing that in any second it will lift right up and bang! Fish on. And the best part of all, you do not need to be a brain surgen to know how to do it and you do not need 10 million baits and 50 different kinds of equipment. 2 Rods max with small reels, a variety of floats, bread, bread paste some sweetcorn and my personel favourite a bag of 14mm plain boilies.
For your feeding all you do is get some corn pellets, chop some of the boilies up and add a handful of sweetccorn, feed those three areas and start with the sweetcorn, if nothing has happend in an hour all you do is change your hook bait to either bread or the plain boilies. I will put my C#CK ON THE BLOCK if you do not catch anything within in hour and if you are quiet enough and do no move around to much you will have carp in your swim all day and could possibly have the best session you have ever had.
All in all you need to find dams that have nice dropoffs, plenty structure, over hanging willows, quite quiet along the bank. The water must be at least a meter deep 2m from the side. Look for bays that have reeds and margins that have over hanging trees. I will tell you that you get a crab problem sometimes because you are fishing so close to the side but then again who doesnt.
When reaching the water you need to try and find structure close to the bank and see if there is any movement or carp feeding in those areas. From that point before you set up your equipment you need to feed three spots in and around that structure but a few meters apart, the reason behind this is that fishing with a float you can just whip out the float at anytime and place it on one of your other feeding spots where you can see carp feeding and with a float been so lite it will not chase the fish out your swim.
To answer your question about just leaving your rods, definitely not. You need to watch that float because once it lifts or disapears you need to strike immediately or else you may as well just fish static with out the float and wait till the carp runs.
Many fisherman have their exitement thing at the waters side, some like the sound of a centre pin reel running, some like the sound of their alarms, me I love the sitting there watching my float waiting for the slightest lift knowing that in any second it will lift right up and bang! Fish on. And the best part of all, you do not need to be a brain surgen to know how to do it and you do not need 10 million baits and 50 different kinds of equipment. 2 Rods max with small reels, a variety of floats, bread, bread paste some sweetcorn and my personel favourite a bag of 14mm plain boilies.
For your feeding all you do is get some corn pellets, chop some of the boilies up and add a handful of sweetccorn, feed those three areas and start with the sweetcorn, if nothing has happend in an hour all you do is change your hook bait to either bread or the plain boilies. I will put my C#CK ON THE BLOCK if you do not catch anything within in hour and if you are quiet enough and do no move around to much you will have carp in your swim all day and could possibly have the best session you have ever had.
All in all you need to find dams that have nice dropoffs, plenty structure, over hanging willows, quite quiet along the bank. The water must be at least a meter deep 2m from the side. Look for bays that have reeds and margins that have over hanging trees. I will tell you that you get a crab problem sometimes because you are fishing so close to the side but then again who doesnt.
Kingfisher-guy
Senior Member
Okay Im convinced that Il try this next time go specimen angling. Is this the same as pole fishing but without the pole? Whats the biggest carp you've caught on this method?
The methods and tactics are very similar to pole fishing but you donet use a 20m pole...hahahahahahahahahaha. Im still trying to get my head around that one, how does anyone sit there with a 20m pole and try catch carp with out a reel. Thats so much work. Doing match fishing with rod and reel makes more sense. The one big advantage that rod and reel has over pole is that you are more mobile, you can change you swim any time and target a new area.
Ive got a session coming up this monday coming and hopefully a 3 hour session on wednesday.
My biggest to date was at the vaal river about 7 years ago. Method was: fed out maize, pellets and chopped up bloodworm / hook bait was a cluster of bloodworm / caught plenty barbel, yellows, moggels, small carp and 10pm that evening hooked into a 10.8kg mirror, it had me going for 45 min because I was using 5lb hooklink and 15lb mainline and the hook was very small. Was not expecting to catch anything big, but thats what is so exiting about this method. You do not know what you are going to catch because many a angler believes that big carp are in open water, they are very wrong. Big carp love structure and there aint no structure in the middle of the dam unless they know different and found some structure with a fish finder.
The other piece of eqipment that makes a huge difference is those little portable fish finders that attach to your rod because you dont fish further then 10m with float and the fish finder works up to a radius of 30m. Awesome little tool to scan a bay or margins, in and around structures. Saves plenty time getting carp on the bank when you are limited for time.
Just want to see if there are anymore guys with some interest in this method and I could possibly try and set up a small session / mini clinic, it wont be anything special but will definitely be fun.
Ive got a session coming up this monday coming and hopefully a 3 hour session on wednesday.
My biggest to date was at the vaal river about 7 years ago. Method was: fed out maize, pellets and chopped up bloodworm / hook bait was a cluster of bloodworm / caught plenty barbel, yellows, moggels, small carp and 10pm that evening hooked into a 10.8kg mirror, it had me going for 45 min because I was using 5lb hooklink and 15lb mainline and the hook was very small. Was not expecting to catch anything big, but thats what is so exiting about this method. You do not know what you are going to catch because many a angler believes that big carp are in open water, they are very wrong. Big carp love structure and there aint no structure in the middle of the dam unless they know different and found some structure with a fish finder.
The other piece of eqipment that makes a huge difference is those little portable fish finders that attach to your rod because you dont fish further then 10m with float and the fish finder works up to a radius of 30m. Awesome little tool to scan a bay or margins, in and around structures. Saves plenty time getting carp on the bank when you are limited for time.
Just want to see if there are anymore guys with some interest in this method and I could possibly try and set up a small session / mini clinic, it wont be anything special but will definitely be fun.
Ryan, me think you would of made dirt mark in pants! hahahahahahahahaha.
Carp on fly is awesome, at brookwood in a single morning I managed 7 carp off the surface with my special bread fly.Biggest was 6.8kg, stripped my reel. It ran so hard that the reel seized. Try this one out, after about the 5th carp i decided to fish this fly along the reeds and all i saw was long dark shape go for it, I have never pulled a fly out the water so fast in my life. It was a one of the owners pride and joy grass carp and everyone is warned that if the carp is caught and harmed you would have to pay R18 000 for a new one. Nice!!!!!
I have a deadly fly for carp. Will take photo tonight and post it tomorrow.
Carp on fly is awesome, at brookwood in a single morning I managed 7 carp off the surface with my special bread fly.Biggest was 6.8kg, stripped my reel. It ran so hard that the reel seized. Try this one out, after about the 5th carp i decided to fish this fly along the reeds and all i saw was long dark shape go for it, I have never pulled a fly out the water so fast in my life. It was a one of the owners pride and joy grass carp and everyone is warned that if the carp is caught and harmed you would have to pay R18 000 for a new one. Nice!!!!!
I have a deadly fly for carp. Will take photo tonight and post it tomorrow.
The guys can study that picture and even if they do recognise it its going to be very difficult for them to fish it anyway. Its run by a residents association and they have full rights to remove any fisherman from the property when they feel fit. Myself and Rudi currently have permission but for how long I dont know because some guys have been taking chances and fishing there and quite honestly handle the carp like crap, but I guess thats the story of our lives. Soon this awesome little dam is going to be buggered up like the rest.
I decided something a while ago, if I am at the waters edge and I see a angler holding a carp by its gills or laying it on the grass or sand I am going to shove my fingers in his eyes and throw him in the water and his rods will follow. As for throwing carp into the water, lets try and leave flying for the birds!
Anyway, I feel better now after that.
Deisel, hows the specimen going boet?
I decided something a while ago, if I am at the waters edge and I see a angler holding a carp by its gills or laying it on the grass or sand I am going to shove my fingers in his eyes and throw him in the water and his rods will follow. As for throwing carp into the water, lets try and leave flying for the birds!
Anyway, I feel better now after that.
Deisel, hows the specimen going boet?
What tactic are you using?
Try something simple but effective.
Im using a very similar mehod for stalking now, just down sized everything.
Try something simple but effective.
- PVA bag with corn pellets[/*]
- Bright yellow pop up [/*]
- Make a small hole in the PVA bag and pour Winter Green or Garlic Flavour in[/*]
- Make a high attractant paste from your dry boilie mix. Make it super sweet and test it over night to see if it breaks up in the water. You can even make like a sweet dough because that stuff gets very soft and will release all the atractants[/*]
- Thread your hook link through the PVA bag and attach to easy clip[/*]
- Dont put your hole rig and weight in the pva bag, the presentation is shocking. Just your hook link.[/*]
- Dont pre feed, when you get to the water look for carp feeding in the shallows or around structure[/*]
- Take a thin layer of the paste and wrap it arond your boilie, must be very thin layer[/*]
- Cast out to the exact place you see the carp feeding or just before them[/*]
- This method has worked very well for me the last few sessions before I stopped specimen
Im using a very similar mehod for stalking now, just down sized everything.
Kingfisher-guy
Senior Member
Can you do float fishing at night?? Lunker, what rod reel and line would you recommend?
You can do it at night but you would need to change over to bigger floats that will accomodate a glow stick. The rod and reel are entirely up to you. The best rods are 12ft to 13ft 2lb TC, not the thick specimen rods but a more slimline rod and the reel needs to hold 200m of 10lb to 15lb line.