Riaan_The_Legend
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Flippen double post. School boy error.
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Riaan_The_Legend
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I won't lie, I think it varies from province to province because that kind of thing very seldom happens further south that Keurbooms. The grunter down are like middle aged women at a Huge Grant movie, absolutely on edge, and it just takes one bad move to clear and entire flat in a nano second. Practice and bucket loads of patience will hopefully get you there.
Riaan_The_Legend
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Haha! Wat het ek nou angevang?
petercoetzee
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thanks riaan, im going to try another method, ill post it here and on my blog using silicone and some male/female moulds....whether what comes out can still be defined as a fly remains to be seen...
petercoetzee
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it seems like the JAM is an almost exact copy of Ted Jurasiks silicon shrimp, ill try find a pic...
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Riaan_The_Legend
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Haha, Classic!
Definately not a fly. It is a soft pastic. 
It would be considered an artificial lure.
I am sure it would work, it looks good.
There is no law that says you cannot throw it with a fly rod, and if you are not a purist give it a shot. I personally would try it out with a sinking line. A fly rod can give that delicate presentation that conventional spinning tackle could not.
Still it is not a fly, but the fish would be caught on a fly rod and the fight would be no different.
It would be considered an artificial lure.
I am sure it would work, it looks good.
There is no law that says you cannot throw it with a fly rod, and if you are not a purist give it a shot. I personally would try it out with a sinking line. A fly rod can give that delicate presentation that conventional spinning tackle could not.
Still it is not a fly, but the fish would be caught on a fly rod and the fight would be no different.
Ocean_darku
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Hi adventures...just had a read bout your grunter fishing in dbn harbour....especially took note of the Magnetic field bit ?? I fish dropshot and frequently read thru the fly forum as i find tht there is some hints tht help for dropshot ...any ideas how i could strategically fish my shrimp for grunter,i have taken the sight fishing bit into consideration....any other ideas i can adapt my gear for this specie? I've been fishing dbn harbour Extensively on every trip for this specie and not yet even a tug! Help and advise greatly appreciated
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Hi Ocean,
Drop Shotting for Grunter
Tecnically my method is not drop shot but artificial lure as I do not make use of a jig head. I use a bass method called finess fishing.
2-3m long flouro leader 4-6lb. Put your shrimp which must be small on a small hook, size 12-8 light gauge and some times it could be a long shank (trout hooks work well) depending on the lure and be sure you have buried the eye and knot in the lure. Best colours are off white to shrimp, but dark green with chartruese tail also works on occasion. You can also use small worms, grubs, creature baits (if you can get, berkly use to have a super one) and tiny glass minnows or even tiny crazy charlie flies.
1 meter up the leader you can use a small split shot or I prefer a tiny mojo sinker, held with 2 mojo rubber stops 1/32 (less than a gram) or even 1/64 (less than 1/2 a gram). You can get this at any bass shop.
Best is to use a 2-4lb braid to be able to cast this light weight on a rod rated Ultra light to Medium Light (I use an ultra fast 6ft Medium Light Rod with 2 lb braid for this)
Best time are on a tide halfway out, or best as it is coming in especially when it is coming in late afternoon to twilight and you fish even into the dark early evening.
Summer/Autumn is best
Now it flats style fishing and you must stand on the bank, and do not move you feet and eventually the grunter will start feeding around you. Do not move your feet you will have to be a contortionist to make these cast as you must twist your upper body without moving your feet ever. If you move your feet they will stay away to far for you to make the cast. Water will be from 500mm to ankle deep.
I have seen grunter swimming on theri side to feed the water they are feeding in is so shallow.
Watch the fish around you as they cme and feed closley, time his spped and track his direction. Single 2 or 3 out. Then make the cast 1-3m in front of the fish, wait for the line to sink and settle. Then slowly twitch into his path, hopefully it Wala and you are in , or retreive back slowley and quietly to make the next calculated cast, without ever moving your feet.
My best is 9 grunter in a 2.5hr period, nothing huge but all nice fish.
It takes skill, patience and persistance. You need master it and practise.
Send me the pics
Drop Shotting for Grunter
Tecnically my method is not drop shot but artificial lure as I do not make use of a jig head. I use a bass method called finess fishing.
2-3m long flouro leader 4-6lb. Put your shrimp which must be small on a small hook, size 12-8 light gauge and some times it could be a long shank (trout hooks work well) depending on the lure and be sure you have buried the eye and knot in the lure. Best colours are off white to shrimp, but dark green with chartruese tail also works on occasion. You can also use small worms, grubs, creature baits (if you can get, berkly use to have a super one) and tiny glass minnows or even tiny crazy charlie flies.
1 meter up the leader you can use a small split shot or I prefer a tiny mojo sinker, held with 2 mojo rubber stops 1/32 (less than a gram) or even 1/64 (less than 1/2 a gram). You can get this at any bass shop.
Best is to use a 2-4lb braid to be able to cast this light weight on a rod rated Ultra light to Medium Light (I use an ultra fast 6ft Medium Light Rod with 2 lb braid for this)
Best time are on a tide halfway out, or best as it is coming in especially when it is coming in late afternoon to twilight and you fish even into the dark early evening.
Summer/Autumn is best
Now it flats style fishing and you must stand on the bank, and do not move you feet and eventually the grunter will start feeding around you. Do not move your feet you will have to be a contortionist to make these cast as you must twist your upper body without moving your feet ever. If you move your feet they will stay away to far for you to make the cast. Water will be from 500mm to ankle deep.
I have seen grunter swimming on theri side to feed the water they are feeding in is so shallow.
Watch the fish around you as they cme and feed closley, time his spped and track his direction. Single 2 or 3 out. Then make the cast 1-3m in front of the fish, wait for the line to sink and settle. Then slowly twitch into his path, hopefully it Wala and you are in , or retreive back slowley and quietly to make the next calculated cast, without ever moving your feet.
My best is 9 grunter in a 2.5hr period, nothing huge but all nice fish.
It takes skill, patience and persistance. You need master it and practise.
Send me the pics
I have caught grunter in the Keeurbooms River, PLett, ona self tied small charlies similar to the tan, brown 1 shown above. Flaoting weed is a big problem, and nine times out of ten, a false cast, or a pice of weed sends the shoals scattering ina frenzy and fishing is dead for the next half hour.
I use an ultra long 16ft lb leader. Very little of the flyline is actually in the water. There is a chap who used to, or still does guide on te keeubooms river, he is the most successful grunter flyfisherman I have ever seen. I saw him catch 4 grunter in 20 mins on a plain brown bucktail pattern which must resemble a fleeing plawn. Ironic becuase he always fished over white sand banks.
I think the trick is stealth. theoretically, if you get your fly in the zone without any disturbance or strange behaviour, I dont see why a grunter wouldnt inspect it, at least. They might be finiky fish, but they can be caught on anything from sardine to earthworm, which proves they not to fussy. Well in my books atleast. But when you manage to succeed in doing the above, please let me know! haha. It just wouldnt be fishing then I guess!
I use an ultra long 16ft lb leader. Very little of the flyline is actually in the water. There is a chap who used to, or still does guide on te keeubooms river, he is the most successful grunter flyfisherman I have ever seen. I saw him catch 4 grunter in 20 mins on a plain brown bucktail pattern which must resemble a fleeing plawn. Ironic becuase he always fished over white sand banks.
I think the trick is stealth. theoretically, if you get your fly in the zone without any disturbance or strange behaviour, I dont see why a grunter wouldnt inspect it, at least. They might be finiky fish, but they can be caught on anything from sardine to earthworm, which proves they not to fussy. Well in my books atleast. But when you manage to succeed in doing the above, please let me know! haha. It just wouldnt be fishing then I guess!