Why this country is going down the toilet

Mouldz

Sealiner
Yesterday 3 eleven year olds lifted a cd out the shop were my wife works,they were caught by the security and caught on the in store cameras,cops were called and cases were opened and kids were released to parents,then some bleeding heart decided that she thought the kids rights were violated.
So this morning in drifts a childrens rights lawyer,long story short,apparently cops are not allowed to be in uniform when questioning kids,if they were 10 or under the shop owner has to release them without getting cops involved because 10 year olds are not responsible for their actions.

I am trying to get this bleeding heart do gooders address then I will send the kids to her place to help themselves,see what she feels about kids rights then.

society has just created 3 more career criminals,because the message they have been sent is its okay to steal,the state will protect you
 

calamari

Senior Member
yep, you quite correct.when i was that age,(violins in the back-ground!) a clippd ear was in order,either the parent or the cop! no jokes,, just showing them the 'error of thier ways",,,
imagine that now:shock:
your feet won't touch!!!
i'm not an advocate of corperal punishment,or smacking/ mistreating children,,,but a bit of old style 'guidence' is still called for ,,,just to prevent them becoming 'bad'.((wideeye))
 

caesar

Member
Accoring to the law a child up to the age of 7 does not know wrong from right. Between 7 and 13 the court must make a decision if the child knew what he did was wrong.

The fact that the police arrested the kids is nothing you did wrong. Tell the lawer to take a fly. They should take it up with the police, not you.

The police arrested the kids not you. I have arrested more than one 10 year old for shop lifting when I was still a cop.
 

J_Bay

Sealiner
If I shop lifted when I was 10, I would have gotten such a slap when I got home, it would have been impossible to eat for the next 3 days...Suffice to say, I never tried anything like that...
 

Mouldz

Sealiner
caesar wrote:
Accoring to the law a child up to the age of 7 does not know wrong from right. Between 7 and 13 the court must make a decision if the child knew what he did was wrong.

The fact that the police arrested the kids is nothing you did wrong. Tell the lawer to take a fly. They should take it up with the police, not you.

The police arrested the kids not you. I have arrested more than one 10 year old for shop lifting when I was still a cop.
We are not in trouble,but my heart goes out to these cops trying to do their job ,now they are the bad guys and the criminal is the hero,these guys now exactly what they doing ,they are coached by older guys to do the deed
 
I think if a child that young is caught, their parents should be called in and the child handed over with an explanation as to what happened. We should then hope the parents do the right thing and hand out appropriate punishment. Hard labour is good!

Opening a case against them is a bit excessive imo!
 

J_Bay

Sealiner
One would hope just being with cops and having their parents called by cops would scare them enough not to do it again...

Eish, hard labor, I remember those days...
 

Mouldz

Sealiner
J_Bay wrote:
One would hope just being with cops and having their parents called by cops would scare them enough not to do it again...

Eish, hard labor, I remember those days...

According to the lawyer the cops were not allowed to scare the kids by being in uniform,can you believe it,so if kids break into your house you must make sure the cops arrive in unmarked cars and plain clothes all the while keeping the kids comfortable while waiting,why not give them some hot chocolate and cookies while you about it.:fbash
 

braailegend

Senior Member
Plaas iemand leer hulle torrent/ cd's copy :temp: of is dit ook steel?

Haha, sou self lekker pakslae gekry het, maar dink polisie betrokkenheid is nie altyd nodig... As hulle ouers 'n goeie job kan doen
 

Fluffy

Senior Member
Gooi hulle in die chookie!!!! Kla.*** ouderdom. PS,dis die ouers se skuld.dis ALTYD die ouers se skuld...

PS ek weet daar is redes vir alles wat gebeur,so obviously sou ek ook 'n case log met die polisie om seker te maak dat die kinders in 'n happy huis is en wat die redes is hoekom hulle gesteel het. As als skoon uitkom dat die huis alright is,die ouers geen probleem is/het nie,dan was die klein donner net stout,obviously kan die kind ook vir verskye redes steel.armoede in die huis(ouers se skuld),stresvolle kinder lewe. In daai "erg" opsigte sou ek hulle tegemoed kom en hul "regte" respekteer.
 
J_Bay wrote:
One would hope just being with cops and having their parents called by cops would scare them enough not to do it again...

Eish, hard labor, I remember those days...
Story of my life.

Bunk school - Spread 6m3 of top soil
Caught smoking - Paint the roof
Cheek mom - paint the living room
Bad school marks - tile the kitchen and dining room during holidays
 

willem wikkel spies

Moderator
Staff member
dis nie hoe jy jou kinders groot maak nie. dis hoe hulle groot word.

ek weet nie mooi nie, maar stem saam n kind moet pakslae kry
kom ek haal aan:"die enigste manier hoe julle leer is as julle pienk puise boude, pimpel en pers gemoer word"
poena is koning.

buig die boopie terwyl die stam nog dun is.
 

Marthin

Sealiner
Proverbs 13:24
Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is diligent to discipline him.

Hebrews 12:11
For the moment all discipline seems painful rather than pleasant, but later it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

Proverbs 23:13-15
Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die. If you strike him with the rod, you will save his soul from Sheol. My son, if your heart is wise, my heart too will be glad.

Proverbs 22:15
Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline drives it far from him.

Proverbs 29:15
The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself brings shame to his mother.

Proverbs 20:30
Blows that wound cleanse away evil; strokes make clean the innermost parts.

If the Black Book says so, who am i to disagree?
 

Cheetha FS

Sealiner
As dit ek was wat hulle gevang het sou ek hulle agter in my bakkie gegooi het en so biekie offroad gaan ry het met hulle en hulle dan by hull ouers gaan aflaai het. Met al die nuwe wette mag kinders doen net wat hulle wil.
 

Marthin

Sealiner
Dis al hierdie Psychological Grootmaak nonsens...

Dis of pa en ma se skuld want hulle slaan nie die kinners nie
Of pa en ma se skuld want hulle slaan die kinners te veel.

Een van die 2.

Ordentlike pak slae op die regte tyd het nog nooit iemand skade gedoen nie.

En een gelukkie met "demokrasie", is geloofsvryheid. My swart boek se gee slae! Anner ou se boek se iets anders.
 

Cheetha FS

Sealiner
Marthin wrote:
Dis al hierdie Psychological Grootmaak nonsens...

Dis of pa en ma se skuld want hulle slaan nie die kinners nie
Of pa en ma se skuld want hulle slaan die kinners te veel.

Een van die 2.

Ordentlike pak slae op die regte tyd het nog nooit iemand skade gedoen nie.

En een gelukkie met "demokrasie", is geloofsvryheid. My swart boek se gee slae! Anner ou se boek se iets anders.
Stem saam daar! As ek hand uit geruk het toe ek jonk was is die bamboes rottang oor n gat net die medisyne gewees en dan n hele wingerd  op my eie moet snoei op n vakansie.
 

BigBen

Sealiner
benniejordaan wrote:
J_Bay wrote:
One would hope just being with cops and having their parents called by cops would scare them enough not to do it again...

Eish, hard labor, I remember those days...
Story of my life.

Bunk school - Spread 6m3 of top soil
Caught smoking - Paint the roof
Cheek mom - paint the living room
Bad school marks - tile the kitchen and dining room during holidays

Yo julle het baie paint gehad in daai dae..

:fbash
 
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