Why is heavens name does a drug trafficker who has

Herman Nel

Senior Member
Bernard Venter from "eco care trust" would have been my obvious choice for this programme...Being a respected fellow angler and all...?

What would be next...Bow Fishing with Julius Malema? Dynamite fishing with "Kortbroek"...?HAHAHAHA!

Ok guys, now that we have laid our complaints, let us change the thread a bit,you know adress the problem and not the person...
Check the last mail I put on the "ESA innovate mis-educate" thread. Let us see with how many good ideas and suggestions we can come up with to help improve the show!

We can complain about last nights program, but it has been aired and unfortunately we cant turn back time...
Although the shows quality and rankings might have gone down, it is still better than some SABC1 "BEE" stuff out there...and NOOT VIR NOOT for that matter...


regards
Herman
 

Even Flow

New member
Herman Nel wrote:
What would be next...Bow Fishing with Julius Malema? Dynamite fishing with "Kortbroek"...?HAHAHAHA!

Ok guys, now that we have laid our complaints, let us change the thread a bit,you know adress the problem and not the person...
Check the last mail I put on the "ESA innovate mis-educate" thread. Let us see with how many good ideas and suggestions we can come up with to help improve the show!

We can complain about last nights program, but it has been aired and unfortunately we cant turn back time...
Although the shows quality and rankings might have gone down, it is still better than some SABC1 "BEE" stuff out there...and NOOT VIR NOOT for that matter...


regards
Herman

 

Kyk hoe kyk sy vir my...Kyk hoe kyk sy vir my...Heeeey jong. Daar's vir jou n Vyftig randjies!
 

Johanvc

Sealiner
misguide wrote:
So what have you done to clean up the dams / water and to make the public more aware?

All these critics who have big mouths about ESA - what are you doing to reduce pollution and to make the public aware of the issues.

To air a program on DSTV costs money - ESA are at least trying to make the public aware of the issues - and they have to justify to their sponsors why the air time is being used for this and not for promoting their products.

I actually dont care if they used Noddy to point the facts out - respect to ESA for making the public more aware and for promoting conservation!
To air a program stating that it is for conservation. Should imply that the program of 26 minutes should have 26 minutes of conservation on it and not 7 minutes conservation and 19 minutes of a drug lord swinging a fishing rod.

 
 

big one

New member
no more esa for me as well-they say the same things over and over and this AGLIOTTI was the cherry on the cake
 

kirk

Senior Member
Hey guys why not put Lolly Jackson (spelling) teazers boss, on the next show , then Esa could become a good serial's soapy, that all cant wait to watch. !!!!

Esa - the mere association warrants bad taste and poor judgement , where did u do your marketing degree? want to make sure my kids dont go to that course. Have you got rocks in your head (pun intended)?

Eish this country is f...*** up , so many have no  morals anymore, or pride for that matter. The world must laugh at us bunch, not proud anymore.

Cheers
 

OJ

Senior Member
To all Sealiners, I have chatted to ESA Management about this as it is not something that I should address. None of them are on Sealine so that is why I am posting it.

Please also excuse any silence from me after this for today I am really far behind with my magazine article and other work.

Hope the rest of the week is a good one for all of us ;-)



ESA Management Response:-

Thank you all for your constructive criticism, we are always open to all feedback from our audience.

Your feedback even though varied is valued. The intention of this show was in fact to draw attention to the disgrace of our waterways. Mr Agliotti is a resident of Hartebeespoort and felt it important to highlight the plight of this particular body of water, which we agreed with as the last 3 occasions ESA has been to Harties to make a show we were unsuccessful due to the state of the dam.

Please note that this show was in no way advocating anything other than conservation.

The prime concern is not for ratings contrary to popular belief this was to draw attention to a dam in South Africa that is being destroyed. Why is the public not outraged with the individuals on the barge, that say that this is not their problem? With regards to the girls fishing in bikini’s, this was not intended to promote anything other than women in angling.
It is not often that the management at ESA gets involved on the forum however that is not to say that we do not take heed of all your useful suggestions for future shows and view all the posts.

Your suggestions are valuable to us at ESA and we thank you for your support and feedback whether negative or positive.
 

Diamond

Banned
Maybe Mr Agliotti should be a little less concerned about the state of the dam and a little more concerned about our countries children!

ESA should broadcast an apology to its viewers for associating itself with a convicted criminal!
 

Diamond

Banned
BTW, a murderer kills once or twice or maybe even 20 times, a drug trafficker never stops killing! 1,2,3...1000,2000,3000.....10000,20000,30000 who knows how many people have died from their deeds...I'd see the death of a dam over a child any day!
 

MikeF

Senior Member
misguide wrote:
MikeF wrote:
If you put Agliotti on a public show, even worse a show that we pay to watch then you better believe we have a right to judge.

I am sure that you have already sent your letter of concern to ESA, Super Sport and DSTV?

 
No, im voicing my disgust here because Im told they will get to hear of it. That ok?
 

PH

Senior Member
OJ wrote:
ESA Management Response:-

Thank you all for your constructive criticism, we are always open to all feedback from our audience.

Your feedback even though varied is valued. The intention of this show was in fact to draw attention to the disgrace of our waterways. Mr Agliotti is a resident of Hartebeespoort and felt it important to highlight the plight of this particular body of water, which we agreed with as the last 3 occasions ESA has been to Harties to make a show we were unsuccessful due to the state of the dam.

Please note that this show was in no way advocating anything other than conservation.

The prime concern is not for ratings contrary to popular belief this was to draw attention to a dam in South Africa that is being destroyed. Why is the public not outraged with the individuals on the barge, that say that this is not their problem? With regards to the girls fishing in bikini’s, this was not intended to promote anything other than women in angling.
It is not often that the management at ESA gets involved on the forum however that is not to say that we do not take heed of all your useful suggestions for future shows and view all the posts.

Your suggestions are valuable to us at ESA and we thank you for your support and feedback whether negative or positive.
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH
 

kirk

Senior Member
Dear ESA Management

I write this slowly -cause I know you cant read fast. Quote "...Why is the public not outraged with the individuals on the barge, that say that this is not their problem?"

of course we are out raged regarding this dire situation of the dam/s, but the chosen mascott's reputation to convey this message, far exceeds the objective you are so dearly trying to put across, so that! the point youre trying to make was drowned in controversy.

We as South Africans have had enough of crime, drug dealers , corrupt political officials and Julias to mention a few gripes we have. Please stop trying to spin the other side of the story as your objective we are not as stupid as you think, How in the hell can you make such a tactical error, baffels me? Fisherman do not want to be associated with drugs point.

It would be far more entertaining if you took Julias out on a fishing trip cause he talks so much bull at least we would have a laugh. LOL

And dont believe that saying "bad puplicity is good" in this case you grossly overstep the moral boundaries of humankind- and will be remembered for the wrong reasons. An apology of sorts would only help worsen the situation the damage is done and will take some time to undoo. I love your shows but hel guys seek advise on the matters fist whos bright idea was this ? he/she needs to go back to school. And even the rest of your responce where this quote comes from needs professional help employ someone who can write.

enuf said.
 

KLIPVIS

Sealiner
I am excited about next weeks Dropshot episode , apparantly Shabir Shaik is hosting the show to highlight the plight of the red oyster catcher.Next weeks Deep sea section will be sponsored by Fidentia with Brown and Zuma as hosts , cant wait not to see it.

ESA please rather get another OJ than more criminals to host the show.Bring back the godfather rather.
 
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