Uilkraalsmond open again!

Strepie

Sealiner
My dad took the pictures yesterday. A decision was made to open the mouth due to the Uilkraal sewerage flooding due to the high water level.
 

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DJP

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Interesting that the municipality and Cape Nature actually got to a point that they managed to do something about the situation, albeit a much delayed reaction to a massive problem.

The Hermanus lagoon is a good example on their doorstep of how to mess up a natural system; I hope Uilenkraal isn’t next on the list. The sewerage is absolutely ridicules, but sadly there are very few rivers in the Western Cape not polluted by sewerage.

Open the system up to the sea and the problem goes away, I think not. In my opinion they should have a look at the dams in the catchment area which are retaining large volumes of water and at the end of the day inhibiting the river to open and close naturally. Opening a system in this way at the end of the Western Capes raining season, all that will happen is that the sea water will fill up the lagoon, seeing that water levels will only drop the lagoon will soon close entrapping saline water with summer evaporation the salinity of the lagoon will rise and the sewerage will still be flowing in to the river = problem bigger than before…
 

Bom

New member
lushwill wrote:
does that mean more fish?

This is fantastic news for the sand prawns! Well not all good news since anglers will be able to pump prawns easier now.

It does however not mean more fish as this is not a system known to deliver big fish.
 

alwyn

Senior Member
DJP wrote:
Interesting that the municipality and Cape Nature actually got to a point that they managed to do something about the situation, albeit a much delayed reaction to a massive problem.

The Hermanus lagoon is a good example on their doorstep of how to mess up a natural system; I hope Uilenkraal isn’t next on the list. The sewerage is absolutely ridicules, but sadly there are very few rivers in the Western Cape not polluted by sewerage.

Open the system up to the sea and the problem goes away, I think not. In my opinion they should have a look at the dams in the catchment area which are retaining large volumes of water and at the end of the day inhibiting the river to open and close naturally. Opening a system in this way at the end of the Western Capes raining season, all that will happen is that the sea water will fill up the lagoon, seeing that water levels will only drop the lagoon will soon close entrapping saline water with summer evaporation the salinity of the lagoon will rise and the sewerage will still be flowing in to the river = problem bigger than before…
I have to agree on this,The Berg river is an prime example, years ago i fished the berg at Moravia, rods out would be carp, earthworms for kurper and spinning for smallmouth bass and the elusive yellowfish. Now i caught a lot of fish those years, in fact if you had to google, and i have not, there was an article in the Burger which read " dit reen nou visse in koringberg" well i will own up to putting those fish in that dam, after a few years we had the problem of  rain that fell outside of the season, so we had silt running into the river, which killed and clogged up the fish gills, i witnessed this, fish surfacing and trying to get oxygen, the next phenomenon was the the annihilation of fish due to pollution, sad but it probably starts in the Paarl with the wine farmers, and the people that squat next to these rivers. My opinion,.
 

marinello599

Senior Member
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forgive me for the excitement guys......i've got a week long trip planned for next year January and was hoping that they'd open up the mouth.:woohoo:woohoo
 

Zeebo

Member
alwyn wrote:
DJP wrote:
Interesting that the municipality and Cape Nature actually got to a point that they managed to do something about the situation, albeit a much delayed reaction to a massive problem.

The Hermanus lagoon is a good example on their doorstep of how to mess up a natural system; I hope Uilenkraal isn’t next on the list. The sewerage is absolutely ridicules, but sadly there are very few rivers in the Western Cape not polluted by sewerage.

Open the system up to the sea and the problem goes away, I think not. In my opinion they should have a look at the dams in the catchment area which are retaining large volumes of water and at the end of the day inhibiting the river to open and close naturally. Opening a system in this way at the end of the Western Capes raining season, all that will happen is that the sea water will fill up the lagoon, seeing that water levels will only drop the lagoon will soon close entrapping saline water with summer evaporation the salinity of the lagoon will rise and the sewerage will still be flowing in to the river = problem bigger than before…
I have to agree on this,The Berg river is an prime example, years ago i fished the berg at Moravia, rods out would be carp, earthworms for kurper and spinning for smallmouth bass and the elusive yellowfish. Now i caught a lot of fish those years, in fact if you had to google, and i have not, there was an article in the Burger which read " dit reen nou visse in koringberg" well i will own up to putting those fish in that dam, after a few years we had the problem of  rain that fell outside of the season, so we had silt running into the river, which killed and clogged up the fish gills, i witnessed this, fish surfacing and trying to get oxygen, the next phenomenon was the the annihilation of fish due to pollution, sad but it probably starts in the Paarl with the wine farmers, and the people that squat next to these rivers. My opinion,.
Hey guys

Closer to home, its the same debate with Sandvlei and regulation of the mouth opening. Check out the site at www.zandvleitrust.org.za and you'll get some fantastic info on the why and how.  Also great info on the lagoon itself.

Have to agree though, man created the problem and now trying to find solutions which don't work. Its the story of our planet man...

Zeebo
 

vinkie

New member
Hi daar

Presies dieselfde het gebeur met Dieprivier in Table View naby Milnerton. Vroer jare het jy mooi karp gevang daar, waar my pb 14.2 kg is! Dit was nie buitengewoon om n 10kg vis te vang daar nie. Daar was altyd baie riete ens op die oewer, maar dit was gereeld skoon gemaak en die gras op die bank ook mooi gesny.
Hierdie rivier het soms en meer as een keer sy wal oorstroom in reen seisoen en dan sodoende al die slik ens deur Rietvlei pan, in Milnerton lagoon in en uit see toe gespoel. Nou met almal wat water opgaar boontoe op, kry die rivier nooit meer ordentlik water nie en die riete ens groei die rivier nou heel toe op sommige plekke en jy sien nooit meer die munisipaliteit daar om skoon te maak en te verseker dat die rivier bly vloei nie. Daar is ook die riool werke reg langs die rivier, maar dit was altyd nog daar, maar toe die rivier ordentlik gevloei het dink ek nie was die probleem so groot soos nou nie, en dit stink behoorlik daar nou!
Daar is ook skaars vis oor in die rivier en dis so n jammerte, want ek weer wat ons alles altyd daar gevang het! Groot Kurpers en groot Karp ens.
Die stadsrade reg oor die land moet begin wakker word en die basiese dinge raak sien en optree voor dit te laat is!!!!
Vinkie
 

Vuilhond

New member
ek gaan more uilkraalsmond toe,bly om te sien sien die rivier is weer oop.watse visse vang mens daar die tyd van die jaar en waar?
 

Copper

Sealiner
Just spoke to some guys fishing there.
There are very few fish, they got one cobbie of 48cm and a steenie of 54cm. Both released.
The water and silt coming out of the opened mouth, and already this morning there was about 8 dead octopus and lots of crabs and klipvissies washed up on the shore.
Could the water running into the sea killing the marine life?
 

Zeebo

Member
hi guys

Please keep us posted.  Normally when the mouth opens, the first few weeks sees many steenies and cobbies being taken.   And if you can, please post pics too.^^..

Zeebo
 

marinello599

Senior Member
Copper wrote:
Just spoke to some guys fishing there.
There are very few fish, they got one cobbie of 48cm and a steenie of 54cm. Both released.
The water and silt coming out of the opened mouth, and already this morning there was about 8 dead octopus and lots of crabs and klipvissies washed up on the shore.
Could the water running into the sea killing the marine life?
would be interesting to know from a scientific point of view?altho i doubt it,look at the Breede there might not be sewerage waste run off (im assuming) there is however significant amount of silt present.and i dont think that the silt has a huge negative influence on marine life (again i could be wrong) -im no expert!im simply basing this on Archar's catches of grunter some km's upstream in the Breede.and if the hermit crabs and prawns are alive at Uilenkraals????????
i was there a couple of months ago and saw a significant amount of lesser sandies and baitfish present in the system aswell?
 
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