Gents, your thoughts please. I have done a bit of exploratory drop shotting from the beach and a bit from the boat. I want to get a bit more serious this year. I have the rods and reels, so thats not the problem. I have read NielG's stuff and the info is great. I just want to confirm a few things about the terminal setup. I have the braid, which is attached to about 2m of fluoro leader with an improved 7 turn uni knot. To this I tie the jig heads directly. I do not put swivels on. This is obviously asking for trouble, but I try and keep as few connections in my line as possible. What is the correct setup for the offshore or beach scene. Would it be a 2m leader of normal mono (to stop the braid cutting your fingers when you cast) attached to an appropriate power swivel which is then attached to a 1m flouro leader? I would use a similar setup for the surf stuff just with smaller diameter lines.
To swivel or not to swivel? That is the question!
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I do not use swivels on any of my lines, except for bottom fishing for kob and geelbeck on the bait rigs.
We drop shot a lot, the kids love it. We rig as they way you do.
I don't have one swivel on any of my tuna chunking rigs be it 10kg or 37kg either.
Same with the chokka rigs.
Never had any trouble. Light tackle spinning in the bay I don't have either, less temptation for the snoek as they love eating swivels.
We drop shot a lot, the kids love it. We rig as they way you do.
I don't have one swivel on any of my tuna chunking rigs be it 10kg or 37kg either.
Same with the chokka rigs.
Never had any trouble. Light tackle spinning in the bay I don't have either, less temptation for the snoek as they love eating swivels.
Some choose swivels and others don't
Coffee Grinders by Nature causes line twist, therefore I use swivels alot, not always but alot
You will be surprised how strong a small proper powerswivel is. Oter solution is quick change snap swivel combination.
But like HT also stated, they might just attract the attention of some toothy fish and you might get bitten off.
The choice is really yours, if not then maybe after every few trips on the boat let some line out behind the boat and reel it back on to get the twists out.
Coffee Grinders by Nature causes line twist, therefore I use swivels alot, not always but alot
You will be surprised how strong a small proper powerswivel is. Oter solution is quick change snap swivel combination.
But like HT also stated, they might just attract the attention of some toothy fish and you might get bitten off.
The choice is really yours, if not then maybe after every few trips on the boat let some line out behind the boat and reel it back on to get the twists out.
Personally, I use a 4m leader - I hate casting using my finger on braid. Have upsized the eyes on my rod to accomodate a decent knot. Also use a swivel too, just find it helps with the line spin and tension knots. On the terminal side I use a Rapala knot to help keep the action of the lure... If it's to a leadhead, I use a Fig 8.
Great feedback guys, thanks. I use the improved uni as I find it goes through the eyes a bit easier than an albright. The albright knot tends to not lie striaght with the braid no matter how neatly I tie it(the braid enters from one side of the wraps). The little tag end on the leader sticking out from the wrap, catches on all the eyes. The improved uni seems to run better. I looked at the Yucatan or French knot, but it looks like a dogs breakfast after I tie it. I cannot seem to get the leader and doubled braid to wrap together properly. I have cut my fingers trying to cast braid before, so there needs to be a casting leader on of about 2.5m.
On the swivel side, it seems they are not essential so I will give it a go without. If I get too many twisted lines, I will try fit a swivel and see how it goes. I have some 45lb (for beach) and 110lb (offshore) pioneer power swivels, they should do the job and they are nice and small.
On the swivel side, it seems they are not essential so I will give it a go without. If I get too many twisted lines, I will try fit a swivel and see how it goes. I have some 45lb (for beach) and 110lb (offshore) pioneer power swivels, they should do the job and they are nice and small.
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I attach the below classic fly size 2 snaphook at the end of my leader....then the jighead to the snaphook.....this snaphook is extremely strong and saves me time when changing between jigheads sizes.....It is smaller than the ring link you get on some rapala lure
it cost about R20-00 for 25 snaphooks
http://www.mustad.no/products/classic/c_flyhooks/fly_77145.htm
What are your thought?
I attach the below classic fly size 2 snaphook at the end of my leader....then the jighead to the snaphook.....this snaphook is extremely strong and saves me time when changing between jigheads sizes.....It is smaller than the ring link you get on some rapala lure
it cost about R20-00 for 25 snaphooks
http://www.mustad.no/products/classic/c_flyhooks/fly_77145.htm
What are your thought?
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[color=#0066cc]Reefman[/color] wrote:
And so do I. When fishing of the surf I make my leader longer, except I completely stay away from swivels (personal opinion). When you rig your dropshot you should make sure it is as straight as possible. Also I use a Arrow head instead of the round jighead. This way, every time I cast the dropshot flies straight through the air without ever spinning.
Round heads.
You won't believe this. One day we fished of the drive-on pier in Richards Bay. The water was very clean, so I retrieved the dropshots faster to get a strike from the Kingies. Well, upon retrieving the dropshot fast on a round head, it sort of made a bubble behind the dropshot (from my deep sea experience this is normally a good thing). Then we saw the kingies!!! they chased the dropshots, then ate the bubbles!!! :rasta
Never have I ever seen this. Changed to a arrow and on with second cast! Makes one think....::balance:
And so do I. When fishing of the surf I make my leader longer, except I completely stay away from swivels (personal opinion). When you rig your dropshot you should make sure it is as straight as possible. Also I use a Arrow head instead of the round jighead. This way, every time I cast the dropshot flies straight through the air without ever spinning.
Round heads.
You won't believe this. One day we fished of the drive-on pier in Richards Bay. The water was very clean, so I retrieved the dropshots faster to get a strike from the Kingies. Well, upon retrieving the dropshot fast on a round head, it sort of made a bubble behind the dropshot (from my deep sea experience this is normally a good thing). Then we saw the kingies!!! they chased the dropshots, then ate the bubbles!!! :rasta
Never have I ever seen this. Changed to a arrow and on with second cast! Makes one think....::balance:
That much I can figure out its common sense. If I use 50lb braid I would need a swivel or clip of a minimum breaking strain equal to the line size. That is why I asked what sort of size they come in. I asked this question with both surf and offshore drop shotting in mind.
[color=#006600]ignoblis[/color] wrote:
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IGNOBLIS (and I really really mean that)
This is something that HAS ALWAYS puzzled me about anglers, they use 20lb line and a 200lb swivel, why oh why in the world ?
20lb line with maybe a 30lb swivel or in extreme even a 40lb swivel
Your tackle should be matched from rod and reel down to line and terminal tackle !
THANK YOU VERY MUCH IGNOBLIS (and I really really mean that)
This is something that HAS ALWAYS puzzled me about anglers, they use 20lb line and a 200lb swivel, why oh why in the world ?
20lb line with maybe a 30lb swivel or in extreme even a 40lb swivel
Your tackle should be matched from rod and reel down to line and terminal tackle !